Is Paradigm-City = New York City or a copy of this city?

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Originally posted by samirsouleyman What is the interest to make a so crazy scenario for 'The Big O' ? Why do we use people to make a show ? Ok, every one are androids ! But why ?! Who had that crazy idea ?! Why do 'they' use New York City to change it into Paradigm-City ? Why do 'they' destroy PC every time to rebuild it every time ?!

Because they can? I mean, they built an entire small village over here, just to create "Big Brother - the village". Actually, I could really see something like "The Paradigm Show" happen, just because people would watch it.

And about that New York-comment of yours. We don't know whether it's NY or not. Sure, the river's called Hudson and the airport is the JFK-one, but then again, they can't remember where they are and what things are called. So maybe some guy found a book and saw a pic of JFK airport, thought "Well, that looks like that thing we have here..." and voilà, JFK mark was born. The same goes with the Hudson.

Thinking about it, we can't even tell if Paradigm's on earth. The big dome could be like an atmospheric bubble. They could be on Mars...

http://www.paradigm-city.com/images/ep23/FallingObjects1.jpg
http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-news/new-york-05-may.gif
you see? Paradigm-city = New York city. Lower Manhattan is under water.

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"Well, that looks like that thing we have here..."

HEHEH. I'm not sure why but that tickles me, I get this vision of everyone loosing their memories world wide and rivers being called Hudsons instead...

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Good heavens! It really DOES look like Paradigm... I mean... It always did but I can really see it here... Kinda makes me feel I know the place personally *ominous shudder*
So much of the city has been cut out be water though if you look you can outline it (does so on paint)

So, where's the proof that Paradigm's on earth? I mean, if they can build entire cities, why should they take one that already exists? I can imagine that Paradigm was modelled after NYC (like Metropolis was modelled after Toronto), but not that Paradigm = NYC.

It's more likely that Paradigm is a model of NYC. But since there has never been a hint of otherworldly activity in the episodes I doubt it's not on Earth, while there was at least ONE thing with NYC or NY on it. So was Paradigm created to determin NYs' future? But then forgotten when the future was determined (or was it too late?) maybe Paradigm never determined anything...

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Originally posted by Anarky So, where's the proof that Paradigm's on earth? I mean, if they can build entire cities, why should they take one that already exists? I can imagine that Paradigm was modelled after NYC (like Metropolis was modelled after Toronto), but not that Paradigm = NYC.

Someone's been watching too much Dark City

But that brings up a good point. Though they never really hinted to it in the series (at least from what I remember), they don't really disclose exactly WHERE Paradigm is.

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Originally posted by Cerpin Taxt But that brings up a good point. Though they never really hinted to it in the series (at least from what I remember), they don't really disclose exactly WHERE Paradigm is.

It is hinted at *prods the robot assassin* that is the one I remember but there are others.

remember this guy http://www.paradigm-city.com/images/ep19/Assassin5.jpg


he wore a NY casquette. Thus PC = NY . And on another image we see a well known bridge far on a street.

I don't think I remember the bridge...

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Originally posted by samirsouleyman remember this guy http://www.paradigm-city.com/images/ep19/Assassin5.jpg he wore a NY casquette. Thus PC = NY . And on another image we see a well known bridge far on a street.

Yesterday, I saw a guy wearing an L.A.-Lakers T-shirt. I never knew that L.A. was in Europe. Amazing, huh?

why had he worn a NY casquette and not a Vladivostock one huh?

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Originally posted by samirsouleyman why had he worn a NY casquette and not a Vladivostock one huh?

Does it matter? I mean, why on earth didn't he wear a top hat? Or a beret? Or even a turban? He wore headgear to conceal himself, end of story.

Fact is, we don't know where Paradigm is. We can't know since we're never told.

be honest. Look at this picture http://www.hoursofdarkness.com/B&W%20Nig...n%20Bridge2.jpg

You know this cliché ? This is a famous cliché no ? You know it . In 'the Big O' there was exactly the same cliché on I don't remember what episode. Do you remember ? We see this right ? The same cliché, but in the light of sun. And this cliché is the cliché of the Brooklyn Bridge, NYC .

Ah yes, a bridge. There's no way someone who could build a really, really big dome could rebuild a bridge. You're right... it has to be New York because of one guy wearing a hat. That means I live in L.A... Makes me wonder where the Golden Gate Bridge went. Again, a bridge. That's evidence! It has to be!

You haven't seen act 26, so I didn't want to bring this up, but do you happen to know if New York has a really, really big system of gears and stuff underwater?

If I was about to build a city, a stage, I would certainly get my inspiration from somewhere. Like the writers of Superman (I happen to Superman on some days, I wear a T-shirt with the S-symbol) did when they created Metropolis. They took Toronto and drew it, et voilà, Metropolis.

And really, we don't know. I will go and say that it's New York the second someone official says it. Not before that. That's canon, my friend.

I know someone asked that question time ago, but I reask this question. I remember to have asked this same question the first week after my inscription on this forum, but I reask my question. And now, I want someone official to answer to me.

I really believe Paradigm-City = New York City. But Lower Manhattan is under water, and there are big gears underwater. How have they modified NYC to make PC ? And when ?

Good idea with the thread, because we were getting really offtopic with the Roger Smith-clone-thing. Anyways, if you want to read the preceding discussion, then read the discussion starting here.

Could a mod please split that part from the other thread and merge it with this one? Thanks.

Anyways, I still stand with canon, which is: We don't know. I could come up with a thousand theories why Paradigm resembles NYC and why it doesn't have to be NYC. Also, Paradigm doesn't even need to be on earth, simply because we don't know what's outside the really big dome. And no, a guy with a hat and a bridge aren't enough evidence. They can be seen as hints at best, but not proof.

And I doubt that someone official is hanging around here...

I think Paradigm is a COPY of New York. The amount of time I've seen that blasted bridge on TV and 1/2 expected to see the Griffon go across it... Well, NVM. The point is Paradigm is ether a copy or the orgional NYC. Personaly my thoughts are on the former.
The gears are inconclusive, the way the last few ACTs where going they could have been metaporical.

you see? I chose to post a new thread to answer to this enigma. That was better. I am sure someone will have the friendship to link my question to another one who had already been created before.

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And I doubt that someone official is hanging around here...

Just be patient.
Yeah, the real question is that PC = NYC, or PC = COPY of NYC ? That's better. The big Gears underwater are impossible to be built under the Original NYC. Maybe angels like Angel had that power ? That's another question : Do other angels than Angel exist? No please, answer to my first question in priority.

I'm still standing by my theory here, until we get further proof towards anouther thing or I feel something isn't/doesn't sound quite right.

Angels... Hmm... *goes to find out more on the defination of angels.*

an·gel ( P ) Pronunciation Key (njl)
n.
1. A typically benevolent celestial being that acts as an intermediary between heaven and earth, especially in Christianity, Judaism, Islam, and Zoroastrianism.
2. A representation of such a being, especially in Christianity, conventionally in the image of a human figure with a halo and wings.
3. Angels Christianity. The last of the nine orders of angels in medieval angelology. From the highest to the lowest in rank, the orders are: seraphim, cherubim, thrones, dominations or dominions, virtues, powers, principalities, archangels, and angels.
4. A guardian spirit or guiding influence.
5.
a. A kind and lovable person.
b. One who manifests goodness, purity, and selflessness.
6. Informal. A financial backer of an enterprise, especially a dramatic production or a political campaign.

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A typically benevolent celestial being that acts as an intermediary between heaven and earth,

Angel (the blonde female), is she meant to be a type of messenger for a higher authority?
After all after she fails to report to the Union the send Allen Gabriel.

Maybe Angel is sent by a more powerful entity? I wonder that she can't be alone if she is an angel.

Who had the power and the knowledge to edify the Big Dome which covers Paradigm-City ? Humans ? Tere were usual lamps, not extraterrestral ones . Who built the Gears underwater ? Humans? IMPOSSIBLE !


THANK YOU LOST CYBORG FOR YOUR CURSUS, BUT I WOULD LIKE SOMEONE TO ANSWER TO MY ORIGINAL QUESTION.