Why are their NYC locations in the 2nd Big 'O' soundtrack?

I just received the OSS II, and am wonder what significance that a lot of the tracks have names of NYC locations in them?

I'm assuming just to solidify the fact that Paradigm City is New York City.

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Originally posted by WilliamC I just received the OSS II, and am wonder what significance that a lot of the tracks have names of NYC locations in them?

Because Paradigm City is apparently a future version of New York. Watch the series closely, you see a lot of recognizable landmarks and even a New York Yankees baseball cap.

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Originally posted by Zola Because Paradigm City is apparently a future version of New York. Watch the series closely, you see a lot of recognizable landmarks and even a New York Yankees baseball cap.

And a very horribly done Yankess cap it was... If you're still unsure, Act 14 ("Roger the Wanderer") really hits you over the head with it...

Then there's a shot of Paradigm near the end of the Series that really proves its Manhattan...

I thought it was fairly obvious it was a futuristic New York City, but maybe that's just because I've lived in the city all my life.

That and the JFK mark aka Kennedy airport and the Hudson river. are dead giveaways also. Just a rough guess but I'd say that Central dome (the yellow one) is in the middle of Manhatin(sp).

I wonder where ground zero is in Paradigm?

-B.C.

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Originally posted by Blackcat I wonder where ground zero is in Paradigm? -B.C.

The World Trade Center (sorry, but I never have and never will get used to calling it Ground Zero), along with Battery Park, is actually submerged below water in Paradigm City.

(Battery Park is the southern tip of Manhattan...it looks to me that that whole area of Manhattan, including the Lower East Side, Tribeca, etc., is submerged, but I'd need to see old screenshots to make sure.)

This picture I made proves it. I've also noticed there are circular chunks taken out of the left side of the Island. I think those are craters from some sort of bombing. Also jfk mark runways were shown briefly in leviathan (act 17) and I'm pretty sure they bombed the runways too.

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One time when I was walking through Manhattan I spotted both a bar called the Speakesasy and a Nightengale club within a few blocks of each other.

Thats one of the fun things about this place, reading all this discussion on the geography of NYC/Paradigm is refreshing my sketchy knowledge of how manhattan is laid out. (And this is sadder than it sounds, I live 8 miles AWAY from new york, yet have been there few times)

"Thats one of the fun things about this place, reading all this discussion on the geography of NYC/Paradigm is refreshing my sketchy knowledge of how manhattan is laid out. (And this is sadder than it sounds, I live 8 miles AWAY from new york, yet have been there few times)"

I know exactly how you feel, I live within a half hour range of Manhattan and yet hardly ever go there.

Perhaps this was already discussed, but how does Electric City fit into this?

RE: Comparing New York & Paradigm City maps

I can see my house from up here!

I won't embarrass myself by trying to tie in all the recognizable locations (and then getting them wrong), but here's what jumped out at me after cross-referencing with Yahoo Maps:

The main dome looks to at least cover the lower half of Central Park and the high-rent district and fancy hotels along it's southern edge (57th Street going east-west)

The smaller domes roughly map to other high-rent districts (Park Ave running north-south, East 57th towards the river, etc.)

Looks like none of the bridges across the East River survived; going north-south, the Queensboro (59th Street) Bridge would be across that little island (Roosevelt Island) to Queens, the Williamsburg Bridge to Brooklyn would be about where the new waterline starts, and the Manhattan and Brooklyn Bridges would be further south. We do see the wrecked Brooklyn Bridge in episodes 13 and 14 I think.

Anyway, they must use the tunnels to get over to JFK, which would be waaay off to the lower right of both maps. Or new bridges were build that aren't visible on the map.

As for the site of the former World Trade Center, I think it would be roughly at the southernmost tip (bottom left) of the Paradigm Map.

I'd have to say that Paradigm is a future NYC too...it's obviously in America; if you look closely at Schwarzwald's severance check in "Enemy is Another Big!", it says 'Bank of America' at the top...

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Perhaps this was already discussed, but how does Electric City fit into this?

A-HA! By great dint of effort (and no small measure of nigh-superhuman genius), I, modest little *ME*, has discovered (drumroll please ...)

THE LOCATION OF ELECTRIC CITY!!

Using the name, the dam, the size of the city, and the road across the dam as references, I have determined that the dam is Nesbitt Dam, the artificial lake is Lake Scranton, and the community is the mid-sized city of Scranton, Pennsylvania.

As a note, in the early 20th century, due to it's then-modern electric public transport system, Scranton was known as ... ELECTRIC CITY!!

Damn I'm good.

Now all we need is one more confirmed location, and we can pinpoint just about any location in the Big O universe. This means that Eletric City is far to the south of Paradigm city. I can't help but to wonder where the sporting arenas of New York are, like Yankee Stadium and Madison Square Garden, and what is their current psyical status?

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This means that Eletric City is far to the south of Paradigm city.

Actually, it's about 100 miles to the west-northwest, about a two-hour drive.

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Originally posted by Wingnut Now all we need is one more confirmed location, and we can pinpoint just about any location in the Big O universe. This means that Eletric City is far to the south of Paradigm city. I can't help but to wonder where the sporting arenas of New York are, like Yankee Stadium and Madison Square Garden, and what is their current psyical status?

Well, Madison Square Garden is located near Penn Station (W 34th Street...around 7th-8th avenue).

Yankee Stadium is located in the Bronx.

Therefore, the Garden is probably next to or in one of the domes (since they appear to be in midtown Manhattan, some of which seem to be constructed over Central Park even).

Yankee Stadium would be in the northern part of Paradigm, outside the domes.

Shea is located in northern Queens (Flushing)...and as we know, it appears that Queens (at least, near the Rockaway Penninsula) has been turned into a desert.

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Originally posted by The Fallen Phoenix Shea is located in northern Queens (Flushing)...and as we know, it appears that Queens (at least, near the Rockway Penninsula) has been turned into a desert.

Proof that the Yankees are better than the Mets.

The Garden is probably still standing, then, if it wasn't blown up in the war, or replaced sometime in between.
I can't see any sign of my school, right across the river from midtown, in Hoboken. GOOD, it sucks. Michael Seebach's address was on Washington St. I don't know if there is a Washington St. in NYC, but the main road in Hoboken, right next to the city, is Washington St.

Pennsylvania? Wow, does that mean the super-dome covers that wide an area?