Before Crisis: Final Fantasy VII

R.Smith 10-15-2004 03:07 PM
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I think this is a good way to kick of this thread Wink

TGS 2004 BC Trailer with clear video and sound! Big Grin

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Trailers for DC and BC
TGS trailers for Dirge of Cerberus and Before Crisis have apeared courtesty of Gameshot.net. The Dirge of Cerberus trailer mixes familiar scenes with new footage, while the trailer for Before Crisis is the same as what we have seen, though the sound is much better now.
» Dirge of Cerberus Trailer...
» Before Crisis Trailer...

(AdventChildren.net)

Also, here's an FAQ about Before Crisis.
Cecil XIX 10-15-2004 07:39 PM
...When I clicked on the link for the FAQ, Gamefaqs chastizes me. Thought you should know.
R.Smith 10-15-2004 08:26 PM
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Originally posted by Cecil XIX
...When I clicked on the link for the FAQ, Gamefaqs chastizes me. Thought you should know.


Really? Hm, well, then ... click on this link and head to the FAQ by Suzaku that way.Oh Well
R.Smith 05-18-2005 02:25 AM
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Before Crisis to Come to America
In a brief update on Gamespot, at a pre-E3 conference, Square-Enix announced that it'll bring the highly sucessful cellphone game to the United States sometime in 2006.

» Gamespot


Update:

Gamespot has also added their report of the game, being able to experience the game first hand.

Their report runs through the basic aspects of the game including the playable characters, plotline, and gameplay for those who have not been following the updates from Japan.

Also available are 7 new screens.

» Full Report
» Screens
R.Smith 05-18-2005 11:22 AM
[sings]It's my thread, and I'll double post if I want to
Triple post if I want to, Quaduruple post if I want to, You would post, too
If it was your thread to[/sings]

Sorry, extremely silly mood I'm in. Roll Eyes Tongue

Ok, more info on BC in US.

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More Information on the American Release of Before Crisis
On an update on Gamewatch, in an interview with a Square Representative was brought with the question of when and how Before Crisis was coming to the United States.

While there ARE definate plans of bringing it to US shores, right now the problem stands on what platform it should be on, and if it's possible, to still keep it as a cellphone game.

Until the problem of platform can be solved, no release date can be set.

» Source: GameWatch
Travis Bickle 05-18-2005 03:03 PM
I actually played it for a total of 90 seconds when I was in Oswego. Some kid at this giant gaming store in Syracuse had a cell phone that played the import version of it. Sweet stuff. I had no idea cell phones in America were capable to process such graphics.
R.Smith 11-18-2005 04:58 PM
I hadn't planned on updating this topic until BC was out here, but I'm udating this now because it has news not only about BC, but about a character in FFVII: DC, and the Compilation of FFVII.

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Before Crisis Episode 21 Released
Episode 21 of Before Crisis was recently announced, and was released today.

The episode introduces Shalua Rui from Dirge of Cerberus, and also marks the first physical appearance of Scarlet in the game.

For those of you who have been keeping up with the storyline discussions on the forums, a spoiler-tagged overview of this episode will be posted, which can be viewed by clicking, "Discuss in the Forums...". This could be considered to contain major spoilers, as a number of plot twists and revelations have occured in recent Episodes.

In unrelated news, a promotional DVD titled "Compilation of FFVII: Reflections" is slated to be released some time soon. I'm unsure of pricing, though it may be a free giveaway or something. It will reportedly contain the TGS '05 trailers Dirge of Cerberus, and the Square-Enix Party trailer of Advent Children, which have yet to be shown to the general public. In addition, it will contain Before Crisis and Crisis Core trailers, and the PS3 FFVII Tech Demo.

» View Shalua Artwork, Scarlet Artwork
» View Screenshot 1, 2, 3, 4
» View the Official Before Crisis Website

» Discuss in the Forums...
Travis Bickle 11-27-2005 05:50 PM
According to recent rumors, not only is Square Enix not going to release it in the states, but they're also closing their US division of mobile game software publishing and development due to lack of demand. Hmm...
R.Smith 11-27-2005 06:20 PM
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Originally posted by Dr. Gonzo
According to recent rumors, not only is Square Enix not going to release it in the states, but they're also closing their US division of mobile game software publishing and development due to lack of demand. Hmm...



Keyword in that rumors. Your credible source?
Travis Bickle 11-27-2005 06:27 PM
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Originally posted by R.Smith
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Originally posted by Dr. Gonzo
According to recent rumors, not only is Square Enix not going to release it in the states, but they're also closing their US division of mobile game software publishing and development due to lack of demand. Hmm...



Keyword in that rumors. Your credible source?


My source is an email sent to gamespy, then fowarded to a friend. It stated that "mobile content based on Grandia 3 would be cancelled in both the US due to lack of demand in the mobile market. They also went on to say that the future of Square Enix mobile is uncertain.

Now think about it. The few games that Square Enix Mobile have released (except for one) have only been released for 2-3 different mobile phones, out of the hundreds (even thousands) that are on the market as we speak. According to mobile games sales charts, FF7 Snowboarding didn't sell at all. It's only natural.

Let me drag this on for a bit: If they were to actually port it to a different system, it would be a pain in the ass. The entire thing, if I'm not mistaken is entirely coded in Java, which, if I'm not mistaken is not standard or even used at all in the gaming industry (consoles and handheld systems, that is). Translating the game to a different system would take quite a bit of work, since it would have to run on an entirely different structure. And since we can't mass-release it in the US due to the fact that we're behind in cell phone technology compared to Japan, it would be useless to do so on a cell phone.
R.Smith 11-27-2005 06:39 PM
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Originally posted by Dr. Gonzo
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Originally posted by R.Smith
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Originally posted by Dr. Gonzo
According to recent rumors, not only is Square Enix not going to release it in the states, but they're also closing their US division of mobile game software publishing and development due to lack of demand. Hmm...



Keyword in that rumors. Your credible source?


My source is an email sent to gamespy, then fowarded to a friend. It stated that "mobile content based on Grandia 3 would be cancelled in both the US due to lack of demand in the mobile market. They also went on to say that the future of Square Enix mobile is uncertain.

Now think about it. The few games that Square Enix Mobile have released (except for one) have only been released for 2-3 different mobile phones, out of the hundreds (even thousands) that are on the market as we speak. According to mobile games sales charts, FF7 Snowboarding didn't sell at all. It's only natural.



Mmmhm, and who sent that email to gamespy (a 'top-secret' source that can't be revealed, and therefore this is still unproven)?

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mobile phones, out of the hundreds (even thousands) that are on the market


The phone that BC will be on will be released sometime next year. The cell phones in Japan are far more advanced then the sad little things we have in the US.

Also, the Compilation of FFVII would be incomplete in America, or elsewhere without BC being released for cellphones (porting it to another device wouldn't work well, and would take more time/money then it's worth) and I highly doubt FF VII fans would be happy with that.
Travis Bickle 11-27-2005 06:44 PM
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Originally posted by R.Smith
Mmmhm, and who sent that email to gamespy (a 'top-secret' source that can't be revealed, and therefore this is still unproven)?


Someone (most likely spokesperson) from Square Enix answering various email questions about Grandia 3 and all things related.

And I really don't care about cell phone techology. Mine makes calls and lasts for several days when it's not being used. It's too bad it can't do my homework Frown

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Also, the Compilation of FFVII would be incompelte in America, or elsewhere without BC being released for cellphones (porting it to another device wouldn't work well, and would take more time/money then it's worth) and I highly doubt FF VII fans would be happy with that.


Well, Last Order is supposedly not going to be included on the American DVD, which is technically also part of it, so I wouldn't be surprised. It's not really that big of a deal though. It's a cell phone game. It's pretty much an unwritten law that, if you go out of your way to play games on your cell phone (when you're not waiting for somone/something), you have no life. Nobody really wakes up and decides to play 2 long hours of Snood on their Sony Ericson.
R.Smith 11-27-2005 07:05 PM
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Originally posted by Dr. Gonzo
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Originally posted by R.Smith
Mmmhm, and who sent that email to gamespy (a 'top-secret' source that can't be revealed, and therefore this is still unproven)?


Someone (most likely spokesperson) from Square Enix answering various email questions about Grandia 3 and all things related.

And I really don't care about cell phone techology. Mine makes calls and lasts for several days when it's not being used. It's too bad it can't do my homework Frown

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Also, the Compilation of FFVII would be incompelte in America, or elsewhere without BC being released for cellphones (porting it to another device wouldn't work well, and would take more time/money then it's worth) and I highly doubt FF VII fans would be happy with that.


Well, Last Order is supposedly not going to be included on the American DVD, which is technically also part of it, so I wouldn't be surprised. It's not really that big of a deal though. It's a cell phone game. It's pretty much an unwritten law that, if you go out of your way to play games on your cell phone (when you're not waiting for somone/something), you have no life. Nobody really wakes up and decides to play 2 long hours of Snood on their Sony Ericson.



First I'd like to thank you for taking the time to edit in an insult. Thumbs Up


Second, you still have an unproven source. And if you don't care about cell phone technology, then why did you make an edit going on about the game's not very likely port to a different system.

For someone who doesn't care about cell phone technology, you seem to have bothered to look up the sales charts and found that the snowboarding game didn't do well , so why would you go through the effort of posting that?

The Last Order anime, is an unfortunate loss, but those who imported the Advent Pieces Boxset, or bought a bootleged copy on eBay (shame some had to do that) got to see it. Also, since it is just basically an anime of the events that can be viewed in the original game (with a few changes and added in characters), it's not a huge loss.


The Before Crisis game is an important part of the Compilation of FFVII, because not only does it tie characters from Dirge of Cerberus, but explains more on FF VII's past. Plus, many fans have wanted to play as the Turks, and this is their only chance to do so.
Travis Bickle 11-27-2005 07:23 PM
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Originally posted by R.Smith
First I'd like to thank you for taking the time to edit in an insult. Thumbs Up


I wasn't insulting you. I was saying that I can tolerate gamers. PC Gamers, Console Gamers, and even Handheld Gamers (my sister kicked my ass in Tony Hawk on the DS about an hour ago). However, if there were a plethora of people becoming obsessive/hardcore mobile gamers, then I think they should pretty much die, since that's an all time low. It's like being a pro-Solitare player.

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Originally posted by R.Smith
Second, you still have an unproven source. And if you don't care about cell phone technology, then why did you make an edit going on about the game's not very likely port to a different system.

For someone who doesn't care about cell phone technology, you seem to have bothered to look up the sales charts and found that the snowboarding game didn't do well , so why would you go through the effort of posting that?


My source is secondary. I heard from a friend via an IM who read an email fowarded from a guy who got it from a guy from Square Enix. Or would that be a tertiary source? GOD DAMN YOU RESEARCH PAPERS!

And the FF7 Snowboarding game chart thingy I got from a discussion I had with an obsessive gamer friend who works at Verizon, so it's hearsay, but reasonably accurate.

Porting it to a different system, however, has nothing to do with me caring about cell phone technology.

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Originally posted by R.Smith
The Last Order anime, is an unfortunate loss, but those who imported the Advent Pieces Boxset, or bought a bootleged copy on eBay (shame some had to do that) got to see it. Also, since it is just basically an anime of the events that can be viewed in the original game (with a few changes and added in characters), it's not a huge loss.

The Before Crisis game is an important part of the Compilation of FFVII, because not only does it tie characters from Dirge of Cerberus, but explains more on FF VII's past. Plus, many fans have wanted to play as the Turks, and this is their only chance to do so.


Last Order was bad ass to the max, and also set up the story for Crisis Core, which is pretty important. People might have to go without playing Before Crisis.

Now, R. Smith, what you just did with your last few posts is called "instigating", or "antagonizing". I didn't really do anything to warrent such volatile behavior, and you, a mod, essentially went looking for a fight out of nowhere for no reason whatsoever. You did the same thing yesterday, when I said nobody could read Japanese in order to play an import game, which you misinterpreted as a direct insult somehow.

I know you hate me. You have a whole blog dedicated to how much you hate me. Frankly, I don't care one bit. But you don't have to go picking fights. I was "reporting" news on the topic. News that mattered. And all you did was try to quarrel about stupid things like "OMG JOOR SOURCE ESNT CREDIBLE!" Please stop it. By posting about this any further would only prove me right.
R.Smith 11-27-2005 08:07 PM
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Originally posted by Dr. Gonzo
I wasn't insulting you. I was saying that I can tolerate gamers. PC Gamers, Console Gamers, and even Handheld Gamers (my sister kicked my ass in Tony Hawk on the DS about an hour ago). However, if there were a plethora of people becoming obsessive/hardcore mobile gamers, then I think they should pretty much die, since that's an all time low. It's like being a pro-Solitare player.


Well, that's your opinion, not an opinion shared by every single person on earth, therefore you saying that those who would take the time to play a game designed for a cell phone have no lives is an insult to those people.

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Originally posted by Dr. Gonzo
My source is secondary. I heard from a friend via an IM who read an email fowarded from a guy who got it from a guy from Square Enix. Or would that be a tertiary source? GOD DAMN YOU RESEARCH PAPERS!

And the FF7 Snowboarding game chart thingy I got from a discussion I had with an obsessive gamer friend who works at Verizon, so it's hearsay, but reasonably accurate.

Porting it to a different system, however, has nothing to do with me caring about cell phone technology.


Still, without presenting a copy of that email, with the address pointing towards SE, it's still uncredible. Sure, I could say that I heard "__________", from a guy, who knew a guy, who was friends with this guy, whose girlfriend has an uncle that worked in __________ company, who overheard a guy he knew talking about what another guy said was talked about in a meeting. Now, I don't know about the rest of the world, but that's a pretty unreliable source of information right there.

You lacked to mention that you got the information about the snowboarding game from another person; I'm not physic, so how would I know that. Roll Eyes

You know enough about cell phone technology to know that the games are Java-based, and that porting them to another system would take effort, that seems like caring about cell phone technology to me.


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Originally posted by Dr. Gonzo
Last Order was bad ass to the max, and also set up the story for Crisis Core, which is pretty important. People might have to go without playing Before Crisis.


As I said, the events that take place in LO, are similar enough to the events in the original game, so those who weren't able to watch it, aren't completely missing out.

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Originally posted by Dr. Gonzo
Now, R. Smith, what you just did with your last few posts is called "instigating", or "antagonizing". I didn't really do anything to warrent such volatile behavior, and you, a mod, essentially went looking for a fight out of nowhere for no reason whatsoever. You did the same thing yesterday, when I said nobody could read Japanese in order to play an import game, which you misinterpreted as a direct insult somehow.

I know you hate me. You have a whole blog dedicated to how much you hate me. Frankly, I don't care one bit. But you don't have to go picking fights. I was "reporting" news on the topic. News that mattered. And all you did was try to quarrel about stupid things like "OMG JOOR SOURCE ESNT CREDIBLE!" Please stop it.



Don't start trying to play the victim; you are anything but the victim.

Your source is uncredible; your "news" is nothing more then a rumor. That's what I pointed out. I didn't attack you; all I did after that was counter your arguments against my post stating such.


There you go bringing up the LJ again, as those who I added as friends on LJ know, I don't have a journal dedicated solely to you. Sure, I've made three entries on how you piss the hell out of me, but that's it, it's your ego that makes you think I have a whole site dedicated to you.


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Originally posted by Dr. Gonzo
You did the same thing yesterday, when I said nobody could read Japanese in order to play an import game, which you misinterpreted as a direct insult somehow.



No, that is not what you said, you said:

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Originally posted by Dr. Gonzo
TOO BAD NONE OF US CAN READ THAT sh**!
I'm with D-Boy on this one. If there's Tron, there's a way.



As I'll quote a friend,
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What kind of idiot complains that Japanese magazines are in Japanese language?


And, by the way, translations for those scans are in the works. Laughing


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Originally posted by Dr. Gonzo
I was "reporting" news on the topic. News that mattered.


"News" that remains without a proven source.
Travis Bickle 11-27-2005 08:13 PM
Wow, R. Smith. I never saw it that way. I have to admit defeat here. You win the internet.
Generalissimo D 11-27-2005 08:25 PM
Both of you.


ITS A VIDEO GAME. AN OVERRATED VIDEO GAME. A SELF PERPETUATING VIDEO GAME.

I swear, if aliens come across our war ravaged planet, they'll be surprised. The only thing's that have sequels exceeding 4 are Slasher flicks, porn, and Final Fantasy.
The Fallen Phoenix 11-27-2005 08:37 PM
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Originally posted by D-Boy
I swear, if aliens come across our war ravaged planet, they'll be surprised. The only thing's that have sequels exceeding 4 are Slasher flicks, porn, and Final Fantasy.


...and Dragon Quest, and Romance of the Three Kingdoms, and...eh, it doesn't matter.

I do agree that we need to calm down a little bit here; neither side is completely innocent, but neither side is completely guilty, either. I'll take it upon my humble self to give this thread a [verbal] locking until someone who wields tangible power can do so.

Oh, and D-Boy, I appreciate the interest in keeping the peace, but...well, I think the picture was a tad bit excessive...

...for the record, I am actually rather ambivalent to cell phone games in general. There are one or two that I'd love to get my hands on--namely a couple Shining Force games--but otherwise, most cell phone games do not really appeal to me. This is one of them, although I appreciate the news on this subject nonetheless.
R.Smith 04-25-2006 12:30 AM
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Square-Enix announces E3 Plans
Square-Enix has announced their preliminary E3 lineup, expect it to grow in the coming weeks. Along with the announcement, we have the first English screenshots of Before Crisis -Final Fantasy VII- and Dirge of Cerberus -Final Fantasy VII-. Crisis Core has yet to be added to the list, but should be added in the future.

Dirge of Cerberus is scheduled for North American release in Summer 2006 and will be rated "T" for Teen.

Before Crisis will also launch in North America in 2006, however compatible handsets are TBA.

For further information on these and other interesting titles, check the official websites and press release below. Keep with the Compilation Network for all the latest news and developments.

» Square-Enix's English E3 2006 Site
» Square-Enix's English E3 2006 Press Release
» Square-Enix's Japanese E3 2006 Site


Yes, I know I posted the samething in both this thread and the DC one, but there was news for both games.
R.Smith 05-12-2006 01:54 PM
Before Crisis - Final Fantay VII

Developer: Square Enix Co., Ltd.
Publisher: Square Enix, Inc.
Format: Mobile
Genre: Network Action-RPG
Ship Date: 2006

FINAL FANTASY® VII explodes onto your mobile phone in BEFORE CRISIS -FINAL FANTASY VII-, the first network action-RPG ever created. Players will explore the history of the Turks and experience the Shinra Company from the inside in this exciting new adventure. Team up with players from all around the country to fight in deadly battles and carry out covert operations in the first mobile game of its kind.

STORY
Six years before the bombing of Mako Reactor No. 1, the Shinra Company was at the pinnacle of its success after monopolizing mako energy and attaining unstoppable political power. However, all of this had come at a price. Many had fallen victim to Shinra’s rise to the top, and those with great hatred for the company were far from few. Among them was a rebel group called Avalanche.

Avalanche was formed with the intent of eradicating the Shinra Company and all those within its greedy corporate circles. With its existence in danger, Shinra was forced to take desperate measures. An elite group was mobilized to combat the uprising-a group known as the Turks.

FEATURES
An innovative network allows users from around the country to link up using mobile phones. Gameplay designed specifically to take advantage of the latest in mobile phone technology.

Experience the events leading up to FINAL FANTASY VII and witness the measures taken by Shinra to oppress the people of the world and secure its hegemony.

©2004-2006 SQUARE ENIX CO., LTD. All Rights Reserved. Character Design: TETSUYA NOMURA.