Alien VS. Predator

In Honor of the new movie AVP I putting up the poll.

Oy... This is like asking "which would win? The death star or Unicron?" (it's a forbidden topic at the Transformers board I post at.) We could argue this for years. Which one will win in the movie? Who knows. It all depends on the circumstances. An entire alien hive against one predator hunting party would probably win, but there seems to be more than just a couple predators. The predators actually probably have a disadvantage against aliens, humans might be fooled by the invisible trick, but aliens most likely see heat signatures and have an advanced enough olfactory system to see right through that (no pun intended.)

The predators have no disadvantages against the aliens...
(I've watched the one on one fight clip.)

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The predator cuts off the alien's tail with his gauntlet blades, but they melt. He gives his ruined weapons a "wtf look" and then decides that a good old @ss whuppen is the best course of action. The interstellar hunter kills the Alien with his own hands; it wasn't even a fight, no contest whatsoever.

Yeah, but that's ONE, a hive contains THOUSANDS.

True, but the alien's superior numbers didn't really amount to much in the comics. Of course at times, they were able to overpower them, although what usually happened was just a whole lot kills for the predators they were fighting. You gotta remember that this is a pastime for the predators. This is just a game and perhaps a coming of age thing to them.

Bah, fine, guess I just like aliens better. I still think a hive would own a hunting party...

I think the Predator will win, because the Governator will order it so.

On the topic, who will win in a fight between a flying aligator and a flying shark?

Hmmm... I haven't read any of the comics, so I don't really know. But I think Predator will win. Much more tactical, and is cooler!

Though Arnold did beat him...

Gotta go with Aliens on this one.

The Aliens have the "home turf" advantage. There's this big structure with lots of closed-in spaces and dark areas and such. It's the PERFECT place for Aliens to be.

Sure, Predators can jump fairly high and such, but the Aliens can climb on the walls. There are probably tunnels all through that place, so the Aliens would have the tactical advantage.

If it was just linear fighting, like in Alien 2 (with a ton of aliens coming down one way and the people at the other, shooting) the Preds probably win. In a 1v1 against a Predator, the Pred would win. But when you have such a situation like this...

However, I think the humans have a good chance of winning, somehow. As you can see from the movies and games, humans do have some advantages like strategy. Predators have never been terribly good at advanced strategy, they just kind of run through shooting at things. If they didn't have their cloak, humans would kill them MUCH easier. The most advanced tactic we've seen by the Predator is cloaking and hiding in trees. That's not going to work here.

I don't care who will win. The aliens are just so much cooler.

Lets all thank the twisted mind of H.R. Giger for coming up with filmdom's most awesome monsters.

My Governor would pwn them both!!!

Preds just because they hunt "aliens" on a planet for sport.

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Originally posted by C.R Foxhound My Governor would pwn them both!!!

GET TO DA CHOPPAHH!

(I say this with all respect)

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Originally posted by o55goten Preds just because they hunt "aliens" on a planet for sport.

As far as I know, they infect a world and then go fight the Aliens there. I don't think they actually go into hives and other structures similar to this pyramid. It's far more controlled. But then again, I haven't read/seen everything on this subject.

This angry little boy spoils the movie for all!

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Beware! this is a major spoiler to AVP, if you do not wish to know then don't higlight the text below, but if you value your money you will read it and realize how bad it is. spoiler (highlight to read): Okay, this is going to be a big SPOILER so stop reading if you dont want to know. First let me say that I'm a huge fan of Alien and Predator but I don't read the comics. That being said I was very disapointed in this movie and I'm sure most of you will be as well. The movie is only an hour and 15 minutes long (what a joke) and the first twenty minutes of that sets up why they go to the pyramid. They asbolutely don't build any of the characters. The story is so ridulous. For someone who's never read the comics (like most of the viewers in the general public will be)the story is just childlike. There are only 3 Predators and they get their **bleep** kicked as soon as they encounter the Aliens. Two of the Three Predators die in the first fight scene...yup....dead! The remaining Predator (scar face) I'm assuming because he makes scars on his face after he kills gets his **bleep** kicked the remaining part of the movie and is eventually impregnated by the aliens. Now to the Aliens...they look completely fake and computer generated. Unlike the older movies for some reason these guys look more humanesque than Alien. They're not very big...small and sleek. What I was really disapointed in was the facehuggers. Now they fly....right! And once on your face they impregnate you and ten minutes later there popping out of your chest. Silly! Everyone knows that you have a day or so before the Alien arrives. These things are on the face and the Alien is out in the same screen....The Queen is a joke. Apparently the Predators have kept her frozen for 100 years and shock her to revive her so she can lay eggs. How dumb is that? The Predators have no shoulder lasers at all in this movie. In fact they have to get them from the humans who inadvertantly found them. So it's more than 3/4 of the way throught the movie before Scar can even use his gun. They rush through why the Predators do this and how the humans are used as hosts for there hunt. The humans all die except one but you won't care because they haven't developed any of them. Lance the star of the movie is suppose to be the bad guy but he's just a dieing old fool that wants to go out in a bang. So sad. This movie wasn't scary, wasn't suspenseful and didn't make you think at all. In fact when it was suppose to be scary it was actually funny...that's not a good thing! Now for the end of the movie: Please don't read this unless you want to know!!!! The end is horrible and the director should never be able to work again after this! The Predators parents come to pick up the last dead remaining Predator Scar and bring them aboard their ship. Then they lay his body down and they show Scar laying there and an Alien pops out of his chest but the alien is a mix of predator and Alien as it has those funny teeth on the side of its face and the movie abrubtly ends. Apparently now they are treating the Alien babies as if it were like a regular baby and it now gets the characteristics of the host. Well why this time? Why no human qualities? Why because that is dumb and so is this movie. Now if you were a fan of Freddy vs Jason you will love this flick as you won't care about the stupid story. But if you were a fan of Alien, Aliens and Predators 1 and 2 then you will be VERY disapointed in this. Oh and the last remaing human is then left stranded over 2000 miles away from any hope of rescue in the Antartic....have a good day! So if I were to grade this it would be a D...but it could have been great if someone knew what they were frickin doing! DEATH TO PAUL W.S. ANDERSON!!!!!

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Originally posted by C.R Foxhound My Governor would pwn them both!!!

Ja! He vould for se are girlie men!

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Originally posted by Zopwx2 This angry little boy spoils the movie for all! quote: Beware! this is a major spoiler to AVP, if you do not wish to know then don't higlight the text below, but if you value your money you will read it and realize how bad it is. spoiler (highlight to read): Okay, this is going to be a big SPOILER so stop reading if you dont want to know. First let me say that I'm a huge fan of Alien and Predator but I don't read the comics. That being said I was very disapointed in this movie and I'm sure most of you will be as well. The movie is only an hour and 15 minutes long (what a joke) and the first twenty minutes of that sets up why they go to the pyramid. They asbolutely don't build any of the characters. The story is so ridulous. For someone who's never read the comics (like most of the viewers in the general public will be)the story is just childlike. There are only 3 Predators and they get their **bleep** kicked as soon as they encounter the Aliens. Two of the Three Predators die in the first fight scene...yup....dead! The remaining Predator (scar face) I'm assuming because he makes scars on his face after he kills gets his **bleep** kicked the remaining part of the movie and is eventually impregnated by the aliens. Now to the Aliens...they look completely fake and computer generated. Unlike the older movies for some reason these guys look more humanesque than Alien. They're not very big...small and sleek. What I was really disapointed in was the facehuggers. Now they fly....right! And once on your face they impregnate you and ten minutes later there popping out of your chest. Silly! Everyone knows that you have a day or so before the Alien arrives. These things are on the face and the Alien is out in the same screen....The Queen is a joke. Apparently the Predators have kept her frozen for 100 years and shock her to revive her so she can lay eggs. How dumb is that? The Predators have no shoulder lasers at all in this movie. In fact they have to get them from the humans who inadvertantly found them. So it's more than 3/4 of the way throught the movie before Scar can even use his gun. They rush through why the Predators do this and how the humans are used as hosts for there hunt. The humans all die except one but you won't care because they haven't developed any of them. Lance the star of the movie is suppose to be the bad guy but he's just a dieing old fool that wants to go out in a bang. So sad. This movie wasn't scary, wasn't suspenseful and didn't make you think at all. In fact when it was suppose to be scary it was actually funny...that's not a good thing! Now for the end of the movie: Please don't read this unless you want to know!!!! The end is horrible and the director should never be able to work again after this! The Predators parents come to pick up the last dead remaining Predator Scar and bring them aboard their ship. Then they lay his body down and they show Scar laying there and an Alien pops out of his chest but the alien is a mix of predator and Alien as it has those funny teeth on the side of its face and the movie abrubtly ends. Apparently now they are treating the Alien babies as if it were like a regular baby and it now gets the characteristics of the host. Well why this time? Why no human qualities? Why because that is dumb and so is this movie. Now if you were a fan of Freddy vs Jason you will love this flick as you won't care about the stupid story. But if you were a fan of Alien, Aliens and Predators 1 and 2 then you will be VERY disapointed in this. Oh and the last remaing human is then left stranded over 2000 miles away from any hope of rescue in the Antartic....have a good day! So if I were to grade this it would be a D...but it could have been great if someone knew what they were frickin doing! DEATH TO PAUL W.S. ANDERSON!!!!!

Well, that's not necessarily the way it's going to go. I've heard lots of crap about movies like this and they turned out alright.

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Originally posted by Zopwx2 This angry little boy spoils the movie for all! quote: Beware! this is a major spoiler to AVP, if you do not wish to know then don't higlight the text below, but if you value your money you will read it and realize how bad it is. spoiler (highlight to read): Okay, this is going to be a big SPOILER so stop reading if you dont want to know. First let me say that I'm a huge fan of Alien and Predator but I don't read the comics. That being said I was very disapointed in this movie and I'm sure most of you will be as well. The movie is only an hour and 15 minutes long (what a joke) and the first twenty minutes of that sets up why they go to the pyramid. They asbolutely don't build any of the characters. The story is so ridulous. For someone who's never read the comics (like most of the viewers in the general public will be)the story is just childlike. There are only 3 Predators and they get their **bleep** kicked as soon as they encounter the Aliens. Two of the Three Predators die in the first fight scene...yup....dead! The remaining Predator (scar face) I'm assuming because he makes scars on his face after he kills gets his **bleep** kicked the remaining part of the movie and is eventually impregnated by the aliens. Now to the Aliens...they look completely fake and computer generated. Unlike the older movies for some reason these guys look more humanesque than Alien. They're not very big...small and sleek. What I was really disapointed in was the facehuggers. Now they fly....right! And once on your face they impregnate you and ten minutes later there popping out of your chest. Silly! Everyone knows that you have a day or so before the Alien arrives. These things are on the face and the Alien is out in the same screen....The Queen is a joke. Apparently the Predators have kept her frozen for 100 years and shock her to revive her so she can lay eggs. How dumb is that? The Predators have no shoulder lasers at all in this movie. In fact they have to get them from the humans who inadvertantly found them. So it's more than 3/4 of the way throught the movie before Scar can even use his gun. They rush through why the Predators do this and how the humans are used as hosts for there hunt. The humans all die except one but you won't care because they haven't developed any of them. Lance the star of the movie is suppose to be the bad guy but he's just a dieing old fool that wants to go out in a bang. So sad. This movie wasn't scary, wasn't suspenseful and didn't make you think at all. In fact when it was suppose to be scary it was actually funny...that's not a good thing! Now for the end of the movie: Please don't read this unless you want to know!!!! The end is horrible and the director should never be able to work again after this! The Predators parents come to pick up the last dead remaining Predator Scar and bring them aboard their ship. Then they lay his body down and they show Scar laying there and an Alien pops out of his chest but the alien is a mix of predator and Alien as it has those funny teeth on the side of its face and the movie abrubtly ends. Apparently now they are treating the Alien babies as if it were like a regular baby and it now gets the characteristics of the host. Well why this time? Why no human qualities? Why because that is dumb and so is this movie. Now if you were a fan of Freddy vs Jason you will love this flick as you won't care about the stupid story. But if you were a fan of Alien, Aliens and Predators 1 and 2 then you will be VERY disapointed in this. Oh and the last remaing human is then left stranded over 2000 miles away from any hope of rescue in the Antartic....have a good day! So if I were to grade this it would be a D...but it could have been great if someone knew what they were frickin doing! DEATH TO PAUL W.S. ANDERSON!!!!!

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Dude, Aliens always pick up characteristics from their hosts. Dog alien in Alien 3? And who's to say that what the typical alien looks like isn't an alien with human characteristics? They take characteristics of the host, they don't perfectly replicate it.

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Originally posted by Nyarlathotep quote: Originally posted by Zopwx2 This angry little boy spoils the movie for all! quote: Beware! this is a major spoiler to AVP, if you do not wish to know then don't higlight the text below, but if you value your money you will read it and realize how bad it is. spoiler (highlight to read): Okay, this is going to be a big SPOILER so stop reading if you dont want to know. First let me say that I'm a huge fan of Alien and Predator but I don't read the comics. That being said I was very disapointed in this movie and I'm sure most of you will be as well. The movie is only an hour and 15 minutes long (what a joke) and the first twenty minutes of that sets up why they go to the pyramid. They asbolutely don't build any of the characters. The story is so ridulous. For someone who's never read the comics (like most of the viewers in the general public will be)the story is just childlike. There are only 3 Predators and they get their **bleep** kicked as soon as they encounter the Aliens. Two of the Three Predators die in the first fight scene...yup....dead! The remaining Predator (scar face) I'm assuming because he makes scars on his face after he kills gets his **bleep** kicked the remaining part of the movie and is eventually impregnated by the aliens. Now to the Aliens...they look completely fake and computer generated. Unlike the older movies for some reason these guys look more humanesque than Alien. They're not very big...small and sleek. What I was really disapointed in was the facehuggers. Now they fly....right! And once on your face they impregnate you and ten minutes later there popping out of your chest. Silly! Everyone knows that you have a day or so before the Alien arrives. These things are on the face and the Alien is out in the same screen....The Queen is a joke. Apparently the Predators have kept her frozen for 100 years and shock her to revive her so she can lay eggs. How dumb is that? The Predators have no shoulder lasers at all in this movie. In fact they have to get them from the humans who inadvertantly found them. So it's more than 3/4 of the way throught the movie before Scar can even use his gun. They rush through why the Predators do this and how the humans are used as hosts for there hunt. The humans all die except one but you won't care because they haven't developed any of them. Lance the star of the movie is suppose to be the bad guy but he's just a dieing old fool that wants to go out in a bang. So sad. This movie wasn't scary, wasn't suspenseful and didn't make you think at all. In fact when it was suppose to be scary it was actually funny...that's not a good thing! Now for the end of the movie: Please don't read this unless you want to know!!!! The end is horrible and the director should never be able to work again after this! The Predators parents come to pick up the last dead remaining Predator Scar and bring them aboard their ship. Then they lay his body down and they show Scar laying there and an Alien pops out of his chest but the alien is a mix of predator and Alien as it has those funny teeth on the side of its face and the movie abrubtly ends. Apparently now they are treating the Alien babies as if it were like a regular baby and it now gets the characteristics of the host. Well why this time? Why no human qualities? Why because that is dumb and so is this movie. Now if you were a fan of Freddy vs Jason you will love this flick as you won't care about the stupid story. But if you were a fan of Alien, Aliens and Predators 1 and 2 then you will be VERY disapointed in this. Oh and the last remaing human is then left stranded over 2000 miles away from any hope of rescue in the Antartic....have a good day! So if I were to grade this it would be a D...but it could have been great if someone knew what they were frickin doing! DEATH TO PAUL W.S. ANDERSON!!!!! spoiler (highlight to read): Dude, Aliens always pick up characteristics from their hosts. Dog alien in Alien 3? And who's to say that what the typical alien looks like isn't an alien with human characteristics? They take characteristics of the host, they don't perfectly replicate it.

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I didn't write that, I already knew that about aliens. Actually I think it would be really cool to see an alien spawned from a predator.

In AvP 1 and 2, there's this thing called a

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Predalien, that's a mix of a predator and an alien. It can't climb on walls, but it's pretty fast, looks like a cross between the two and can do some serious damage.