The Fourth Big?

I heard some talk about the fourth big from the mangs, does anyone hava a screen shot?

hmmm... the blue Megadeus perhaps? or the Gigadeus... i'll have t reread the last few books tonight.

Big Fau is called Big Four in the manga, that's probably what you're looking for. Though that still leaves the question of what the third big is there (as it's obviously not Fau anymore...).

There's a blue BIG in the manga I think that acts as the Fourth...However, in the anime, BIG VENUS apears to be the fourth BIG. I've wanted to see the pic for a while too, don't have it though.

as BigPrime said, in the manga the megadeus Big Four is the same megadeus as Big Fau in the anime. The only difference is the name, and the pilot.

spoiler (highlight to read):

Instead of Alex piloting as in the anime, Angel pilots Big Four

It does leave open who the "Third" Big is, but I believe that the anime Big Venus might fit in there. It doesn't seem likely to be the 3rd one built or found, but it does make the number of Big's add up to four.

Just because it's called 'Big Four' don'st mean it's NOT the third megadeus.

Plus, I'm still deciding if 'Big Four' is just a translating error. I mean, it could just be 'Fau' could be mistaken as 'Four'.

I was talking about the blue megadeus

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Originally posted by cudailike I was talking about the blue megadeus

Blue Megadeus?

He's some megadeus in Volume 6, at the beginning. He's refered to as the 'Blue Megadeus'

well, can you get a scan?

Maybe later I could, but it's just some random Megadeus. It's never seen in color, but Dastun refers to it as 'a blue megadeus'.

Red, Black, Blue and White aside, here's my take on it:

the first big: Big Venus
The second Big: Big Duo
The Third Big: Big 0
the fourth Big: Big Fao

Venus and Big O are nearly identical in their classic archetype, Duo was modified from its original form to fly, and Big Fao was brand new. That's just teh anime, as for the manga you might say that Big 0 was a protype and teh Blue megadeuce was the third. Or maybe not.

I'd bet money that BigO came before Big Venus. It's because Big Venus was used to merely take the world into the next loop (most likely so the war would be over), but Big O (along with Duo and Fau) fought in the war. So I'm pretty certain Big O, Big Duo, and Big Fau were made before Big Venus, and that Big Venus is the forth Big.

The Blue Megadeus in the Manga looks a lot like a Big. It has the same hips as O, for one thing, and its arms are the long kind like a Big- i.e. they have extensions pointing back from the elbows. The shoulders-elbows are also similar/identical to Big O's. Plus then it would make sense, Big O = the "first Big" (as in first to be seen), Big Duo is the second, the Blue Big is the third, and the White Big, Big "Fau", is Big Four, because it is the last to appear, after the first three. Plus the colours work, for me, Black, Red, Blue and White. Someone mentioned colours of the four horsemen of the Apocolypse (I think this was in another Big O - Christiannity thing), what colours are they?

As four "Big Three"'s abillities, they are quite limited, or at least, we don't see many of them. It's about as durable as the other megadeuses, the Military Police's weaponry seems to have no affect on it. When Big O appears they grapple, and then Big Three's arms rotate so that its guns are pointiing at Big O (I'll explain this in a minute.) Big O is relatively unharmed after being shot, then fires missiles on Three, which don't do a tremeandous amount of damage, but allow him time to use his Pile Drivers and K.O. Big Three.

Big Three's arms (As you can guess, as a Big it has special arms) are relatively simple- at one end it has fists, at the other (where the pistons are on Big O) three longish guns/cannons on each arm. Its arms can be rotated so that either the fists or the guns point forwards.

The one thing that bugs me about Big Three and possibly points to it not being a Big, is that it has no pilot, or at least, none that we ever see.

I could probably get some scans, but it might take some time, if anyone else can do it quickly, they're probably better off doing so.

EDIT:

The Big's Archetype might count, I dunno.

P.S. There is no Big Venus in the manga TMI, just in case anyone was confused.

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Originally posted by Darien Shields The Blue Megadeus in the Manga looks a lot like a Big. It has the same hips as O, for one thing, and its arms are the long kind like a Big- i.e. they have extensions pointing back from the elbows. The shoulders-elbows are also similar/identical to Big O's. Plus then it would make sense, Big O = the "first Big" (as in first to be seen), Big Duo is the second, the Blue Big is the third, and the White Big, Big "Fau", is Big Four, because it is the last to appear, after the first three. Plus the colours work, for me, Black, Red, Blue and White. Someone mentioned colours of the four horsemen of the Apocolypse (I think this was in another Big O - Christiannity thing), what colours are they? As four "Big Three"'s abillities, they are quite limited, or at least, we don't see many of them. It's about as durable as the other megadeuses, the Military Police's weaponry seems to have no affect on it. When Big O appears they grapple, and then Big Three's arms rotate so that its guns are pointiing at Big O (I'll explain this in a minute.) Big O is relatively unharmed after being shot, then fires missiles on Three, which don't do a tremeandous amount of damage, but allow him time to use his Pile Drivers and K.O. Big Three. Big Three's arms (As you can guess, as a Big it has special arms) are relatively simple- at one end it has fists, at the other (where the pistons are on Big O) three longish guns/cannons on each arm. Its arms can be rotated so that either the fists or the guns point forwards. The one thing that bugs me about Big Three and possibly points to it not being a Big, is that it has no pilot, or at least, none that we ever see. I could probably get some scans, but it might take some time, if anyone else can do it quickly, they're probably better off doing so. EDIT: The Big's Archetype might count, I dunno. P.S. There is no Big Venus in the manga TMI, just in case anyone was confused.

Now I have to see a scan!

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Originally posted by Darien Shields Apocolypse (I think this was in another Big O - Christiannity thing), what colours are they?

The four horsemen of the Apocalypse that appear in the Book of Revelation are the White Horseman (Conquest), the Red Horseman (War), the Black Horseman (Famine), and the Pale [Green] Horseman (Death).

I'd like to see a scan of this megadeus, as well...it seems like a very intriguing design. Even if this Blue Megadeus is the "third Big," at least in the Manga, I do not believe this points to Big Fau being the fourth Big in the Anime, however...as far as I'm concerned, it's still the Third Big.

As for Big Fau being called Big Four in the manga...I'm inclined to go with Super Umino's opinion on the matter; if anything, it seems like it might be a translation error. Or perhaps it isn't, and the creators of the manga wanted to emphasize that Big Fau is the fourth of the Bigs (presuming this blue megadeus is indeed the third Big in the manga)? Either way, I don't think it really matters...I've just about given up trying to make sense of the Bigs' names.

Death was Green? I guess that scratches that theory.

Trust me, "Big Three" isn't much to look at. The pictures aren't even in colour (as is always the case with Manga.) It was probably dumped from the Anime on the basis that it wasn't very good/interesting, combined with its minor role in the plot (it appears, Daustin and others get annoyed that they can't do anything about it, Roger defeats it in Big O and Rosewater muses over this. Not really an epic odyssey.)


*Spoilers*


After re-reading a part of Vol. 6 I've come up with another tad of info about Big Four. I believe that it lay dormant in the sunken part of Paradigm City, until Angel awakened it using Dorothy's Memory Disk. At the same time, though, she and other foreigners stole Megadei from Paradigm, specifically the three foreign megadei that Big O defeated earlier (and were repaired.) Err, actually, I'm unsure of their Manga origin of them though (I only have book six ^_^; .) Perhaps Big Four is simply because it is the fourth Foreign Megadeus?

Dear God, I can't believe you people are getting so exicted about a four page Megadeus that does NOTHING.

It raises from the ocean, Dan and his men try to fight it, Big O comes, and beats the crap out of it. It's not a big. It's just called a 'Blue Megadeus' it's no different than Contanze or Dagon.

EDIT: Darien Shields beat me.

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Originally posted by Super Umino Dear God, I can't believe you people are getting so exicted about a four page Megadeus that does NOTHING. It raises from the ocean, Dan and his men try to fight it, Big O comes, and beats the crap out of it. It's not a big. It's just called a 'Blue Megadeus' it's no different than Contanze or Dagon. EDIT: Darien Shields beat me.

I'm inclined to agree. If it were a Big, it would have put up a much better fight. If there is a Third Big, and Big Fau is the Fourth, I would say that the Gigadeus has a better chance of being the third.

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Originally posted by The Fallen Phoenix quote: Originally posted by Darien Shields Apocolypse (I think this was in another Big O - Christiannity thing), what colours are they? The four horsemen of the Apocalypse that appear in the Book of Revelation are the White Horseman (Conquest), the Red Horseman (War), the Black Horseman (Famine), and the Pale [Green] Horseman (Death).

So we would then have:
Big Fau - White Horseman (Conquest)...Alex Rosewater wanted to rule as a "God".

Big Duo - Red Horseman (War)...bombers are used in war nowadays, and Big Duo is a bomber primarily.

Big O - Black Horseman (Famine)...Big O is always there and yet never goes away (something Dastun would say!)

Big Venus - Pale Horseman (Death)...this supports my theory of the show being a metaphor for life. (which was posted a LONG time ago) However, I think that the creators misunderstood the "pale" meaning and instead of green had a greyish color to it.


This in no way explains the Blue Big O_o;;;

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Originally posted by Darien Shields Death was Green? I guess that scratches that theory. Trust me, "Big Three" isn't much to look at. The pictures aren't even in colour (as is always the case with Manga.) It was probably dumped from the Anime on the basis that it wasn't very good/interesting, combined with its minor role in the plot (it appears, Daustin and others get annoyed that they can't do anything about it, Roger defeats it in Big O and Rosewater muses over this. Not really an epic odyssey.) *Spoilers* After re-reading a part of Vol. 6 I've come up with another tad of info about Big Four. I believe that it lay dormant in the sunken part of Paradigm City, until Angel awakened it using Dorothy's Memory Disk. At the same time, though, she and other foreigners stole Megadei from Paradigm, specifically the three foreign megadei that Big O defeated earlier (and were repaired.) Err, actually, I'm unsure of their Manga origin of them though (I only have book six ^_^; .) Perhaps Big Four is simply because it is the fourth Foreign Megadeus?

Using dorothy's memory disk:

Now wasn't Angel and Dorothy standing next to eachother in post-pilot dress (dorothy wearing black) at the end of Season 2?

Wasn't there another megadeuce under the City in Underground Terror in Season 1?

How many other Megadeuces might their be buried? How many truths are there?

We might yet see another season of episdoes yet!!