What the Hell are you HUMANS thinking? Birds and other winged creatures only!

Schwarzwald 08-25-2003 06:32 PM
SKIES OF ARCADIA!!! For players unknown to the story... there are differnt moons that control different power... and each have a giga( a considared god-like thing that can becontroled by man)

but one race unknown to the others lies in space where they cannot travel... the technology is way to advanced... they are the silviets(of the silver moon) they watch over mankind(in a way) and when they think there is too much chaos they "reset" it by using thier MANMADE giga....zelos... the rains of destruction... they do it often but the humans agian and agian go and fight...

the rest of the story is not very important for the subject... except for the curruopt man who ends up controling and fusing zelos(NOT UNLIKE VALMAR AND ZERA IN GRANDIA 2)... but i think we have covered that...

EDIT: very sorry for double post(please dont sue)
Lady Tesser 08-25-2003 06:35 PM
I'm not one of the pantheons, so I refuse to meddle in human affairs. (Don't wanna touch 'em, either, icky.)

There are always a few that do pull out of the worst disasters - people have survived Pompeii and Krakatoa and so on. Those are the ones who saw the signs of collapse and made a run for safety before the collapse occurred.

However, in this instance, the goal is to not survive, but to expand ever outward. Only the intelligent and the creative accept the challenge to change their surroundings and to move onward to bettering themselves and/or humanity. Stupid people will not go to the stars, nor will stupid people take control. The universe is too practical to allow stupidity to flourish (as oppose to what humans have done to make the world idiot-proof).

And evil is too wrapped up in it's own doings to care what the pioneers are doing. Those with intelligence, common sense, and creativity will be there at the end of the cycle.

"a NEW RACE OF ROBOTS AND CYBORGS" .... ??

Oh, my God, the Borg from Star Trek! Look at how THEY turned out!
The Big Omega 08-25-2003 06:46 PM
Still, intelligence and creativity are not limited to the humans that can be allowed to live. America alone has enough nuclear weapons to wipe all of the life on Earth out. eventually you'll all see. I believe that we are on the path to destruction even now. Look at the new policy of Amreica, pre-emptive attack. America has started very few wars, and none in recent history, that is until now though. With a policy of pre-emptive attack other nations will feel the need to turn themselves into a nation that has the capabilities to destroy the world. Look at North Korea now...nuclear blackmail. This is what humans are, what they represent. Eventually tensions will rise, the UN will collapse and the human race will begin a terrible World War, ending in a nuclear appocalypse. That fate is inevitable, and we all have front stage tickets right now...to the annhilation of the human race...
Schwarzwald 08-25-2003 06:48 PM
man... this is my kind of thread... i need to refer one of those jocks to this... show them the reality... they will never look at me the same agian
*smirk*

anyway... from thinking about that thread of sueing... alot is the media and its connection with viewers/listeners... people don't want thiier children to see "scary images" (no yes.. it does depend... if its fiction doesn't matter but stuff like WW2 they MUST be shown eventually)
the twighlight zone... it con be supoosted by science... like the one whene the reader(smoker like meaning implied....noted by his boss) survives a huge bomb while reading in a valut(haha although that may not be possible depending on where the bomb hit)... he is just about the only human on earth near by left... he goes searching and almost commits suicide... when he finds his books... he is in heaven... but just as he begins... his glasses break... he is in living hell(YOU HAVE TO HAVE HEARD ABOUT THIS ONE!!!). "THERE WAS TIME NOW...there was time...." he didn't like many people... damn jocks... the poeple who keeped him from his joy of reading were like them...

ehm...

bush is an idot... i hate him... he doesn't know what he is doing... he just listens to his wife and/or association... we JUST went out of debt... now look... my god... hu.... were is nader when you need him...


EDIT: OH HEY....ok... i just say the clips that were posted... hmm... so... in the second clip... will that happen? cause if it does... thats a classic ending...

I need to find a certain flash movie...ill be back in a min... its REALLY GOOD and that concpet of the end of the world... its the best... and its even a bit funny...
The Big Omega 08-25-2003 07:25 PM
I agree with you Schwatzwald, I am throughly enjoying this thread as well. I have been wanting to point out all the flaws and problems with the human race for a long time now. I've also wanted to be able to discuss this with mature people, not people who think that I'm a depressed lunatic contemplating suicde. Humans cannot live without other humans though, no matter how much we wish that it were not true. This thread has given me an idea for a Big O fic: The Rise of the Megadeus. it would take place 20 years before the mysterious event in which everyone lost their memories, in our reality, not too far from the future. I'm going to start getting to work on it. Then I'll show the prologue when I'm done with it.
Lady Tesser 08-25-2003 07:28 PM
Franklin.

Hawking.

Ghandi.

ML King, Jr.

Alcubierre.

All of them have enlightened, made aware, and changed the thinking of the human race. They have planeted the seeds, and seeds need time to grow. There is enough decency in the human race to not resort to nuclear war, no matter how passionate the radicals are about their points.

Compare the human beings of today to the ones from fifty years ago. Racial acceptence, social equality, medical technology, information available to every person, the rise of literacy, the possibilities of warp travel being worked on in the labs, this is what has happened in those fifty years.

Yes, there are still backward people and thinking. They are the ones stuck in the past, believing themselves to be warlords in a land of technology, using nuclear weapons instead of swords and arrows and guns. They have regressed - no, correction - stagnated in their little worlds, unwilling to drop their prejudices and infantile mentality to join the rest of the race.

But there is decency blossoming. Courteousy is being practiced - and those who don't are reminded sharply by others. Crimes are being solved and those committing them being brought to justice, as opposed to when crimes were considered the status quo 'just part of life' and praying to be protected.

Man is encouraged to think, as opposed to having believe what the church or government tells them. They seek truth ... and hopefully are willing to accept the truth may not be what they want to hear.

A long time ago, a conquered people had little hope of being freed. Now they do have hope with other peoples coming to release them. It's not perfect, it is subject to man's whims, but it's gotten a hell of a lot better than it had been.

This is merely a turning point in history, in which man can continue to act like warlords and bandits or can begin the slow process of healing and exploration.

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Agreed, this is the most intellectual conversation I've had with teenagers in ages, even when I was one. I like your minds, boys.
Schwarzwald 08-25-2003 07:31 PM
that will be great...

ok here is the link... now... here this is symbolic..(think of the clock((yes clock))leader as bush...and the 3 other strange angry clocks as the gods)

ok... this does get a bit funky... uhg.. well when you see the clocks angry... yeah really good...

I STRONGLY SUGGEST YOU SEE PART 1 FIRST... this is a link to part 2...when the flash movie loads... it give you anoption of going to part 1...

gah i forgot the link...haha 1 sec

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view.php?id=83250

OH and to the post below... gods and humanity..
Big-O 08-25-2003 07:31 PM
Sorry for comming in late. This thread sounds interesting. So whats the flaw we discussing right now?
Schwarzwald 08-25-2003 07:42 PM
just re-saw void 2... ahhh... best... hope void 3 will come soon...

the 13th hour... darkness shall consume all...
Schwarzwald 08-25-2003 07:50 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Lady Tesser
Franklin.

Hawking.

Ghandi.

ML King, Jr.

Alcubierre.

All of them have enlightened, made aware, and changed the thinking of the human race. They have planeted the seeds, and seeds need time to grow. There is enough decency in the human race to not resort to nuclear war, no matter how passionate the radicals are about their points.

Compare the human beings of today to the ones from fifty years ago. Racial acceptence, social equality, medical technology, information available to every person, the rise of literacy, the possibilities of warp travel being worked on in the labs, this is what has happened in those fifty years.

Yes, there are still backward people and thinking. They are the ones stuck in the past, believing themselves to be warlords in a land of technology, using nuclear weapons instead of swords and arrows and guns. They have regressed - no, correction - stagnated in their little worlds, unwilling to drop their prejudices and infantile mentality to join the rest of the race.

But there is decency blossoming. Courteousy is being practiced - and those who don't are reminded sharply by others. Crimes are being solved and those committing them being brought to justice, as opposed to when crimes were considered the status quo 'just part of life' and praying to be protected.

Man is encouraged to think, as opposed to having believe what the church or government tells them. They seek truth ... and hopefully are willing to accept the truth may not be what they want to hear.

A long time ago, a conquered people had little hope of being freed. Now they do have hope with other peoples coming to release them. It's not perfect, it is subject to man's whims, but it's gotten a hell of a lot better than it had been.

This is merely a turning point in history, in which man can continue to act like warlords and bandits or can begin the slow process of healing and exploration.

* * *

Agreed, this is the most intellectual conversation I've had with teenagers in ages, even when I was one. I like your minds, boys.


that is true... but like in my conclution... it is unlikely that the will of few people can change our destiny....(of course saying that destiny can be changed... and im being of knowing what it is to become of us...ok im just using that word for emotion... but watch void... The actions that these people take are what i would expect if this were to happen soon....
oh course its understanable... but they became so desparatie... that they bombed thier own home just to save themselves... the void could be considared the past coming back to haunt them...

... eventually the earth may actually go INTO peace... but not without great military power.... they solve with force... like someone said before in the post.. "war is our thing"... we will bring doom to our own humanity.... if this happense before (and if) we get the tech to collenise on other planets... we are all doomed... if people travel though space... they can escape the government and mabey lead themselves to peace...like the hippie dream once was...

IM DOUBLE POSTING BECAUSE IM QOUTEING NO SUE FOR ME!
Big-O 08-25-2003 07:54 PM
Ohhh destiny... I belive in destiney where we have choices.... Like 4 seconds before a kiss....
The Big Omega 08-25-2003 08:45 PM
alright! I said I would post the prologue to Rise of the Megadeus as soon as I had it ready. well, it's ready now! this story will be very good. If you all like it I will continue and embelish. Keep in mind that this is a prologue though.

Rise of the Megadeus

Prologue: The Alpha of Omega


Hello, my name is Tyler Smith, and I am here to tell you a horrific tale of our world’s future. In late 2003 a horrible chain of events will occur, leading up to another World War in 2006. The world will be annihilated, but some people will survive. This is my story, how I survived, how I came to be who I am, and how another cataclysm occurred. Now it is time…


The chain of events began around December of 2003, not long before Christmas. I suppose it all really started on September 11, 2001, but that is another story. America, my homeland, had adopted the policy of pre-emptive attack in order to prevent a repeat of September 11th but that fool George W. Bush didn’t realize how destabilizing this policy was. It was the war in Iraq that began the destabilization of the world, faulty intelligence and whatnot. America suddenly turned from a protective Big Brother into a big bully, pushing around nations it didn’t like. This caused other countries, which didn’t believe themselves to be in favor with George W. Bush, to begin trying to bulk up their armies. They began to obtain uranium and other materials necessary to construct atomic weapons.

Thus another atomic arms race began, but this one put the Cold War to shame. Bush attempted to make these countries stop, citing the doctrine of pre-emptive strike, but they didn’t care. Not even the U.N. could bring this arms race to a halt. So, in order to make an example, America attacked North Korea on December 18, 2003. U.S. Special Forces managed to capture and subdue the country in less than sixty-five hours, but not before North Korea managed to launch six nuclear warheads at its neighbors. Seoul, Dalian, Anshan, Fushun, Inch On, and Tangshan were annihilated. The estimated casualty count was over sixty million.

China blamed the United States for all of their loses, and so they severed all ties to it. The arms race only sped up as well. On January 14, 2004, Japan ceded from the United Nations and broke off all ties to other countries as well. Relations with America were going poorly on the fronts of all nations, most of them followed China’s example and broke off all ties. Japan however remained a mystery, no one could figure out what the Japanese were doing.

The United Nations was on the verge of collapse and chaos reigned supreme throughout the world of diplomacy. Most nations had broken off any ties they had to the U.S., only countries that depended on it refused to break ties for obvious reasons. During April of 2004 Congress managed to pass a bill that would allow George Bush to stay in office for another four years so that he could concentrate on task at hand, instead of re-election. This only roused world anger even more, and the Democrats did not take this breach of political protocol lightly. But George Bush managed to stay president as chaos enveloped the world.

By November of 2004 the American government finally managed to get the pressure off of itself by setting fire to the mystery of Japan. The release of several spy photos indicated the construction of highly advanced war machines. This united the U.N. in a campaign against Japan, which had isolated itself from the rest of the world. A Japanese diplomat informed the rest of the world that Japan had no desire to conquer the Earth, but the man was not received very well. On February 1, 2005, the United States had declared war on Japan and several other nations were on the verge of adding to it. By February 14, 2005, the U.S. navy had surrounded the island of Japan and was on high alert. On February 15, 2005, all contact with that fleet was lost; satellite photos indicated that the entire fleet had been destroyed by something.

Chaos and confusion once more came over the world. More nations sent their armies to attack Japan, but each attack force was obliterated mysteriously. World tensions were at a peek by July 2005 and they showed no signs of subsiding until Japan was destroyed. During all this time the nuclear arms race had been forgotten, and it would come back to haunt us.

On December 10, 2005, a giant multi-nation army was assembled and was dispatched to assault Japan. This massive army was the work of almost every country in the world. Even the U.N. aided. On the 12th Japan was surrounded completely, the most advanced weaponry in the world was targeted on the island nations, but just like before, by the 13th the entire force was destroyed. World tensions skyrocketed and civil wars broke out in many nations. The U.N. broke down and fell apart and a World War was believed to be at hand.

January 8, 2006, signaled the beginning of World War III as Iran launched a nuclear warhead at Israel. In response, Israel counter-attacked with no less than fourteen nuclear weapons, annihilating all of Iran’s major population centers. Thusly, World War III began. By February of that same year every nation was involved, the massive nuclear stockpiles that had been hoarded up were beginning to be put to use. People panicked, every day there was a report of one nation nuking another. People began try to flee but there was nowhere safe to run. The human race had begun to annihilate itself…

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The idea fits with what we talk about here, and I thin that it shows lots of promsie! Please tell me!
evanASF27 08-25-2003 08:52 PM
And where does the Megadeus come in with this?? (This is a dumb question a bet) Cool
Dante 08-25-2003 08:55 PM
If anyone ever makes a robot in real life...

you know they probably watched anime

seriously though I heard a Soviet plane designer took some of his idea's from some of Shoji Kawamori's design work from Macross. True story
Manji 08-25-2003 08:57 PM
I think mecha units like gundams or megadeese are in-practical. Designs are much more advanced if the dont try and copy the human body in metal...
Dante 08-25-2003 09:06 PM
ever seen GASARAKI?
Suits like those cold work pretty good
Schwarzwald 08-25-2003 09:11 PM
wha?!?!?! what the heck happened to the death and god and such...hu...well

yeah thats great! It open possiblities...not really much to say...it just can go places...

oh and i hope you all have seen the void...in the link i gave before
Manji 08-25-2003 09:13 PM
I Did, but I was Unpleased by the Machines. But Some Heavy Metal mecha, for Instense, the suits in Starship Troopers are pretty cool...
Dante 08-25-2003 09:24 PM
Great mecha is in the I Of The beholder.
Older shows Have less belivable mecha.Ever see the original Gundam? Lots of those zeon designs Leave much to Be desired in my opinion.Although in Shows That Are older the mecha were Revalutionary in there Day. Big Grin
evanASF27 08-25-2003 09:26 PM
Shouldn't you 2 Hit a pillow Up in The air...it would make U feel much better Probably. Tongue