Where is Paradigm City?

Of course Paradigm City is New york. We all know that. Why? The JFK Airport, the Hudson River, etc ....

But my question is: WHEN are we? We see old cars, people with old clothes, old structures. I imagine we are in the years '30s. BUT however, we also see the JFK Airport, thus we are in the '60s. And where do the 'modern' technologies come from?
And how Manhattan has sunk? (in an episode, Roger and Angel are under the see, in sunken towers). Sorry for my bad English.

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Originally posted by samirsouleyman Of course Paradigm City is New york. We all know that. Why? The JFK Airport, the Hudson River, etc .... But my question is: WHEN are we? We see old cars, people with old clothes, old structures. I imagine we are in the years '30s. BUT however, we also see the JFK Airport, thus we are in the '60s. And where do the 'modern' technologies come from? And how Manhattan has sunk? (in an episode, Roger and Angel are under the see, in sunken towers). Sorry for my bad English.

Somewhere it said 2100 or something, but it could really be any time.

I guess when everyone loses their memories technology would revert, but there would be relics of a more advanced past laying around, and most likely the powerfull people/groups would hold it for themselves.

Have people here not seen the whole series?

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Paradigm city is on a stage similar to the table top stages built for the Godzilla movies at Toho sutdios, albeit one of gigantic size.

Although obviously it is meant to represent New York.

Probably the meaning of this is to make us question the reality of the world we inhabit.

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Originally posted by samirsouleyman But my question is: WHEN are we? We see old cars, people with old clothes, old structures. I imagine we are in the years '30s. BUT however, we also see the JFK Airport, thus we are in the '60s. And where do the 'modern' technologies come from? And how Manhattan has sunk? (in an episode, Roger and Angel are under the see, in sunken towers). Sorry for my bad English.

It's set in the early Sixties. Roger's car is clearly based on a 1959 Cadillac. Most of the fashions are reminiscent of stuff you'd see Jackie Kennedy wearing when she was First Lady, though Angel's miniskirt outfits are a few years ahead of this. Most of the electronics (black-and-white TV, two-way radios, etc.) are also from the Fifties and Sixties. Vacuum-tube stuff.

The anomalous technologies include Roger's wristwatch, the androids, and the Megadeuses, plus odds and ends like Eugene's aircraft (also his genetic work). Interestingly, the show is set in a period where transistors existed but were very expensive, so micro-miniaturized stuff DID exist in small numbers, much tinier than the more usual vacuum-tube stuff. But not to the point of allowing the rich to carry wrist television/camcorders with a grapnel and a hundred feet of cord.

There are anomalous places as well as technologies. The whole Underground is anomalous and futuristic. The enormous shafts and gears under the city (if they really exist; things were very strange by that point) are anomalous and archaic.

We're given lots of glimpses of the underlying mysteries, but not enough to really resolve them.

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Originally posted by A Clockwork Tomato quote: Originally posted by samirsouleyman But my question is: WHEN are we? We see old cars, people with old clothes, old structures. I imagine we are in the years '30s. BUT however, we also see the JFK Airport, thus we are in the '60s. And where do the 'modern' technologies come from? And how Manhattan has sunk? (in an episode, Roger and Angel are under the see, in sunken towers). Sorry for my bad English. It's set in the early Sixties. Roger's car is clearly based on a 1959 Cadillac. Most of the fashions are reminiscent of stuff you'd see Jackie Kennedy wearing when she was First Lady, though Angel's miniskirt outfits are a few years ahead of this. Most of the electronics (black-and-white TV, two-way radios, etc.) are also from the Fifties and Sixties. Vacuum-tube stuff. The anomalous technologies include Roger's wristwatch, the androids, and the Megadeuses, plus odds and ends like Eugene's aircraft (also his genetic work). Interestingly, the show is set in a period where transistors existed but were very expensive, so micro-miniaturized stuff DID exist in small numbers, much tinier than the more usual vacuum-tube stuff. But not to the point of allowing the rich to carry wrist television/camcorders with a grapnel and a hundred feet of cord. There are anomalous places as well as technologies. The whole Underground is anomalous and futuristic. The enormous shafts and gears under the city (if they really exist; things were very strange by that point) are anomalous and archaic. We're given lots of glimpses of the underlying mysteries, but not enough to really resolve them.

What happend to that fractured theory about them trying to recreate the world of the 50/60's shown in act 14 but somewhere along the way paradigm f'ed up.

Did anybody notice that next to the Speakeasy is a elevated train going by but we don't see any running underground?

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Originally posted by Dark-0 Did anybody notice that next to the Speakeasy is a elevated train going by but we don't see any running underground?

Assuming what roger told us about people being freaked out by the underground..... I guess thats consistent.

I always imagined paradigm as a serires of domes connected by these brand new raised freeways that allowed the rich to not have to drive through the ruins of the average folk.

I comapre them to refugees in a warzone, destoyed buildings, living like bums.

and the only middle class are those who live in the tiny areas squeezed between the domes.

The military police used all the roads to go to different domes or outside the domes even though the Paradigm Corp thinks that people outside of domes are nothing to them.

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Originally posted by Dark-0 The military police used all the roads to go to different domes or outside the domes even though the Paradigm Corp thinks that people outside of domes are nothing to them.

I'm not saying that people completely seperate themsleves, in fact they would use the normal roads.

But I'd have to imagine some places cannot be drivin through or are too dangersou, and the freeway type things taht are in the artbook and show are newly built to connect the domes.

Haven't posted in ages....

But this thread reminded me of something I noticed a few weeks ago when I grabbed the bus into NYC to hit some bars. After meeting up with some friends we were in the area of 16th-17th streets and 2nd or 3rd ave. Not completely sure (this was after a number of drinks).
But I saw what I believe was a bar/club of some sort named "Nightingale". I did a literal doubletake. It was kind of crazy knowing that a place of that name exists in the real life "Paradigm"

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Originally posted by Dark-0 Did anybody notice that next to the Speakeasy is a elevated train going by but we don't see any running underground? Originally posted by Seebach. You know who you are. Assuming what roger told us about people being freaked out by the underground..... I guess thats consistent. I always imagined paradigm as a serires of domes connected by these brand new raised freeways that allowed the rich to not have to drive through the ruins of the average folk. I comapre them to refugees in a warzone, destoyed buildings, living like bums. and the only middle class are those who live in the tiny areas squeezed between the domes.

That is a good Q and a really good A but it makes no sense. My Dad never says anything about it.

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Originally posted by Jine Haven't posted in ages.... But this thread reminded me of something I noticed a few weeks ago when I grabbed the bus into NYC to hit some bars. After meeting up with some friends we were in the area of 16th-17th streets and 2nd or 3rd ave. Not completely sure (this was after a number of drinks). But I saw what I believe was a bar/club of some sort named "Nightingale". I did a literal doubletake. It was kind of crazy knowing that a place of that name exists in the real life "Paradigm"

That's so cool. I would be willing to go to NYC just to go to that club.

As somebody mentionned, there is Paradigm City. This city is New York City. BUT WHAT IS THERE OUTSIDE PARADIGM CITY? Somebody asked that question, but nobody answered. Maybe have I the answer in one episode of 'the Big O', but I have still not seen the next episodes after the 13th. And I don't believe there will be the answer to my question. Am I right? In an episode, we see a ship on which 'Marseille' is written. Thus the world still exists no? Wht happened to the world? And what's just next to Paradigm City? Ruines? Desert? What happened? Thank you.

from what they've shown of outside paradigm, there seems to be nothing more than freezing deserts and oceans with random ruins here and there.

But we don't know anything about the areas outside paradigm for sure/

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Originally posted by samirsouleyman As somebody mentionned, there is Paradigm City. This city is New York City. BUT WHAT IS THERE OUTSIDE PARADIGM CITY? Somebody asked that question, but nobody answered. Maybe have I the answer in one episode of 'the Big O', but I have still not seen the next episodes after the 13th. And I don't believe there will be the answer to my question. Am I right? In an episode, we see a ship on which 'Marseille' is written. Thus the world still exists no? Wht happened to the world? And what's just next to Paradigm City? Ruines? Desert? What happened? Thank you.

I'm pretty sure that in one of the episodes france was metioned

Paradigm is Manhattan,NEW YORK; I found factual proof in 'Enemy is Another Big.' When Roger taps the police radio, Dastun says thats there is a Megadeus at the old JFK Airport. The JFK airport is right on the outskirts of Manhattan.

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Originally posted by SmothPocket I'm pretty sure that in one of the episodes france was metioned

In "Winter's Night Phantom" the Phantom (Cibyl Rowan {sp?}) speaks french but, oddly enough, while German is apparently familiar enough that Roger knows "Schwarzwald" means "black forest", they can't seem to find anyone who speaks French to translate it.

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Originally posted by -Wanderer- Paradigm is Manhattan,NEW YORK; I found factual proof in 'Enemy is Another Big.' When Roger taps the police radio, Dastun says thats there is a Megadeus at the old JFK Airport. The JFK airport is right on the outskirts of Manhattan.

Actually JFK airport is on long Island <Brooklyn>

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Originally posted by SmothPocket quote: Originally posted by samirsouleyman As somebody mentionned, there is Paradigm City. This city is New York City. BUT WHAT IS THERE OUTSIDE PARADIGM CITY? Somebody asked that question, but nobody answered. Maybe have I the answer in one episode of 'the Big O', but I have still not seen the next episodes after the 13th. And I don't believe there will be the answer to my question. Am I right? In an episode, we see a ship on which 'Marseille' is written. Thus the world still exists no? Wht happened to the world? And what's just next to Paradigm City? Ruines? Desert? What happened? Thank you. I'm pretty sure that in one of the episodes france was metioned

I think I know what your talking about, since it seems like theres possably another city within a few thousand miles since isn't there talk about people comming from the outside that have megaduces?
(I could be totaly wrong on this since I write to much >.<)

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Originally posted by Ozymandius Jones quote: Originally posted by SmothPocket I'm pretty sure that in one of the episodes france was metioned In "Winter's Night Phantom" the Phantom (Cibyl Rowan {sp?}) speaks french but, oddly enough, while German is apparently familiar enough that Roger knows "Schwarzwald" means "black forest", they can't seem to find anyone who speaks French to translate it.

So they are aware of other languages but not of other places?