[Question] ..hmm...maybe another rank?

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Originally posted by Seraphim quote: Originally posted by Zopwx2 Someone who has been here since the start will be denied a rank, while a person who posted less who joined yesterday and spammed his way to the top will recieve one. I don't think it's really possible to spam up to 1,500 posts in one day. Or even several months. Maybe 1,000 is spam-possible, but certainly not 1,500. That's why the system works so well. Also consider the time - you must be here for five months before you can get it. Even if you made 1,500 posts in a month, you'd still need to wait until 5 months have passed.

Um well you see. I can list quite a few members who spammed past 1,500.

I think that we should use the Dominus Of Megadeus to people who reach 10,000 posts.

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Originally posted by PaladinAlexanderAnderson quote: Originally posted by Zopwx2 Maybe user levels, or registration dates can be somehow worked into the equation...... Someone who has been here since the start will be denied a rank, while a person who posted less who joined yesterday and spammed his way to the top will recieve one. I said that already hehe. But since we have the same idea(sorta) thats 2 people who like that idea.

whoops sorry....

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Originally posted by Seraphim quote: Originally posted by Zopwx2 Someone who has been here since the start will be denied a rank, while a person who posted less who joined yesterday and spammed his way to the top will recieve one. I don't think it's really possible to spam up to 1,500 posts in one day. Or even several months. Maybe 1,000 is spam-possible, but certainly not 1,500. That's why the system works so well. Also consider the time - you must be here for five months before you can get it. Even if you made 1,500 posts in a month, you'd still need to wait until 5 months have passed.

I was exaggerating, but I guess having a longer time requirment does help.

Anyway, a lot of people rack up posts in the Megadeus Fighting League.

I myself haven't even spent more than 10 minutes in there.....

are we stripping the legendary status of those who attained ranking status based upon the previous requirements? If so, gosh, I better start spamming to get within legendary limits as opposed to making insightful, worthwhile posts....no time for chit-chat, better get to work...

As for Dominues of Megadues, Id say "legendary member" or "hall of fame inductee" is a higher ranking title than a title from a work of fiction...

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Originally posted by Krang Other than adding more ranks, I think this sounds like a good idea. I'll alter the requirements for the Forum Legends group (and as a note, the silver star group is called "Forum Legends", not "Legendary Members" ) to 1500 posts and 5 months And as suggested, current Forum Legends will not be affected.

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Originally posted by Krang I'm still not exactly sure what to do about the stars, but I have some possible ideas. One would be to have 1 red star at 100 posts, then bump everything else down and have 1 new star at 1000 posts, ending up with 3 new stars for the new rank. The problem with that is mods, admins, and the 5 star groups would all have to be bumped down one also. Another idea would be to leave everything how it is, but add a new rank for 750 posts, meaning that 1000 posts would have 4 red stars. After that, the new ranks would have the new star color, and 4 new stars could be reserved for 10,000 posts (so that every 4 star rank would be achieved at a multiple of 100). The last idea would be to move all the ranks up one, so that new members would start with 1 star, 2500 posts would have 1 of the new star color, and the new rank would have 2 new stars. What does everyone think?

Since most have agreed with either the second or third option, it's now come to the point where we should come up with names. In regards to names, these are the ones we've mustered thus far:

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Originally posted by Xineohp Nellaf Eht As did I. I suppose I'll post the names I came up with again to keep it fresh: Mythic, Mystic, Divine, Preeminant, Supreme, Quintessencial. These are names Ms. Zola came up with: quote: Phenomenal for 750? Superb, amazing, astonishing? Incredible, awesome, excellent? How about Mythical for 5000? Deified? Dominus? Megadeus? Director?

To summarize: Forum Legends requirements have been (or are in the process of being) changed, so we should quit with the debate there. In regards to the new rank, all three of Krang's potential options does involve coming up with at least one new name, so that should be the current focus...

Other names that have been suggested have been Dominus of Megadeus for the final rank under option 2 (10,000).

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Seraphim, in each of Krang's three options, it appears the only new ranks would be added at 750, 5,000, and 10,000...though I can see that Krang could add a rank at 7,500 for three new stars in the second option...

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I'm once again bumping this to the front, so that it doesn't get lost again; this seems to be information most people want. And yes, I have been deleting the previous times I have posted this so I don't have 10 posts just from repeatedly bumping this.

no stevie You aren't going to lose your status. No one is losing their Forum Legend status.

All right, it seems there is a wee bit of confusion here.

Most people preferred the 2nd and 3rd options that Krang offered. I put in my two cents:

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Originally posted by Zola I like idea #2 and #3 the best. Which is easier?

Krang immediately answered:

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Originally posted by Krang #2 would be alot easier, but it would involve coming up with 2 new rank names (one for 750 posts and one for 5000 posts).

I immediately offered up some ideas, because since Krang is being nice enough to do this, I thought it would be polite to tend towards the option that is easier on him.

So let us discuss names before we ALL get a spam warning!

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Originally posted by Zola Hmmm.... Phenomenal for 750? Superb, amazing, astonishing? Incredible, awesome, excellent? How about Mythical for 5000? Deified? Dominus? Megadeus? Director?

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Originally posted by X Prime Perhaps Godlike Member for 5000? Dominus of Megadeus?

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Originally posted by Xineohp Nellaf Eht Since most have agreed with either the second or third option, it's now come to the point where we should come up with names. In regards to names, these are the ones we've mustered thus far: Mythic, Mystic, Divine, Preeminant, Supreme, Quintessential To summarize: Forum Legends requirements have been (or are in the process of being) changed, so we should quit with the debate there. In regards to the new rank, all three of Krang's potential options does involve coming up with at least one new name, so that should be the current focus... Other names that have been suggested have been Dominus of Megadeus for the final rank under option 2 (10,000).

And guys... No matter what my post ranking, I'm always a legend in my own mind.

Spamaholics annonymous emergency meeting anyone?

Zola- ...that's deep...that has real meaning! *claps* ...also you are right. We should at least give Krang a little break and have him do something that's easy for him.

*Back for a short visit*

This topic has grown in my mind since the day they added the Legendary Class, its one that I thought alot about, but I never figured they'd make another level after 2,500. At that point I think that status level was declared, and every member above that rank proved themselves to be a well known, and hopefully respected, addition to the board. Apparently I wasn't right in that aspect, as others see it fit that we have more . I completely agree with the most recent of Zola's posts. Krang and Shredder (not to mention every other admin, moderator, and staff member) have done so much for us members, asking for more means that we should make the load as light as possible. If we plan to ask for more ranks then I definately say that we follow #2 of Krangs solution (Another idea would be to leave everything how it is, but add a new rank for 750 posts, meaning that 1000 posts would have 4 red stars. After that, the new ranks would have the new star color, and 4 new stars could be reserved for 10,000 posts, so that every 4 star rank would be achieved at a multiple of 100), so's to keep it simple.

Ok, I'll lay down my hand.

I still see people with high level posts as equally important members of the board, the lower ones as well, for without them, theres nobody here to add new blood, so everyone is equal, like the FAQ page says: "All members are the same, whatever rank they might have." I'm incredibly impressed at how well the members treat everyone equally, regardless of post count. That being said, only as a reminder for future members, hopefully most of the people reading this at the moment will already know thats how I've always felt, and that the posts we earn mean nothing.

Adding more levels for fun makes sense, if even to help keep members trying to reach new heights, its always a plus to have an incintive to contribute (As I'm sure many know, I proboubly wouldve been the first to generate this sort of idea, had it not been for my ideals about the 2500 rank). I think making a whole new class of stars whatever color they may be (personally I like R. Smiths animated black/silver ones if at all possible, since they have a Roger Smith slickness, and a very stylish look, befitting of one whos reached an advanced level). A new name for each level, and especially names worthy of high ranking members are hard to come by. They should reflect the work that the member put in to reaching the class, and yet stay simple enough for an average person to understand. Take Masta' Phoenix's for example: Mythic, Mystic, Divine, Preeminant, Supreme, Quintessential. Those are a few nice words, but beyond maybe Supreme and Divine, I barely know what the other ones mean. I mean, by all means I'm not the smartest member around, but its impossible that I'm the dumbest (well... Improbable at least ), and I still don't know what they mean. The names we choose should embody the user, for instince, anyone who posts 10,000 times would definately be remembered by the mass of users, and that memory makes them Immortal (hence the classes name being Immortal). Other names might be things like: Distinguished, Prestigious, and Honored (provided they all sound easy enough to understand). Now the idea of using a title like Dominus of Megadues isn't a bad idea, after allhis is a Big O forum, but it doesnt exactly fit with the other titles... I mean we use things like Advanced Member, Ultimate Member, and Junior Member. It also sounds alot like a Custom Title, more than a standardized User Title.

I'm not really sure what else I feel the need to touch on right now, and seeing as I'm short of time right now, I'll leave you with that, and check back later to read the responses. Manji Rulez, later

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Originally posted by Xineohp Nellaf Eht A-ha! I like Manji's ideas. Of course, that's expected of the one who helped come up with the Legendary Member/2,500 post rank... I'm starting to favor something like this: 500- Super Member (two red stars) 750- Honored Member (three red stars) 1,000- Ultimate Member (four red stars) 2,500- Supreme Member (one x star) 5,000- Divine Member (two x star) 7,500- Legendary Member (three x star) 10,000- Immortal (or Hallowed?) Member (four x star)

Immortal Member for that last one.

Anyways, really good stuff. I think this setup works.

So you're suggesting a Gold/Red/Silver color scheme?

Blue is for moderators, and I guess we won't use green or black....

....will these be built in ranks, or will we have to join them, like the Forum Legends have to do right now.......?

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Originally posted by Zopwx2 So you're suggesting a Gold/Red/Silver color scheme? Blue is for moderators, and I guess we won't use green or black.... ....will these be built in ranks, or will we have to join them, like the Forum Legends have to do right now.......?

No, I was just playing around with different organizational methods; I think I'm done editing the post now. Although silver stars do sound good to me; either silver, black, or rainbow would work in my opinion...

The stars I added are just place holders; the main reason I added the stars is so you see how many stars you get for each rank. As the last star hasn't been decided, I decided to pick R.Smith's only because that's what I personally would prefer to see...(though Rainbow comes a close second)

Anyway, these are (apparently) going to be built in; once you reach that post total, you receive the rank, presuming you're part of the DEFAULT GROUP FOR USERS usergroup.

If you're in the Forum Legends, Staff, Moderator, Super Moderator, or Administrator Usergroup, this doesn't really affect you at all...

Actually...I lied. Even if you're part of special usergroups, you can decide what user ranks are displayed, so I guess it does affect everyone somewhat...

[quote]Originally posted by Xineohp Nellaf Eht
A-ha! I like Manji's ideas. Of course, that's expected of the one who helped come up with the Legendary Member/2,500 post rank...[quote]

I like this. I like it a lot. You have my vote.

You're right, Manji. It is tempting to say Dominus of Megadeus, but if we wanted to do a big O theme for groups, we'd have to change them all to fit.

I think setting it up as XNE did will do nicely

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Originally posted by Seraphim We don't need any more ranks. Nobody is even close to a 6,000 post mark. And besides, once someone gets 1000 posts they just apply for Legendary Member then post realllly slowly from then on. I've only seen a few exceptions to this rule.

i agree with Seraphim. before u know it will be requesting for a 10,000 post rank even though were not there yet. 1000 is a resonable number. besides, u can customise that title underneath u to say whatever u want. in this case use it as legendary member or something like that. u can also use ur sig.

A-ha! I like Manji's ideas. Of course, that's expected of the one who helped come up with the Legendary Member/2,500 post rank...

I'm starting to favor something like this:

• 0- New Member
  
  
• 5- Starting Member
  
  
• 15- Junior Member
  
  
• 50- Member
  
  
• 100- Senior Member
  
• 250- Advanced Member
  
  
• 500- Super Member
  
  
• 750- Honored Member
  
  
• 1,000- Ultimate Member
  
  
• 1,500- Supreme Member
  
  
• 2,500- Divine Member
  
  
• 5,000- Legendary Member
  
  
• 10,000- Immortal Member
  
  

-or-

• 0- New Member
  
  
• 5- Starting Member
  
  
• 15- Junior Member
  
  
• 50- Member
  
  
• 100- Senior Member
  
• 250- Advanced Member
  
  
• 500- Honored Member
  
  
• 750- Super Member
  
  
• 1,000- Ultimate Member
  
  
• 1,500- Supreme Member
  
  
• 2,500- Divine Member
  
  
• 5,000- Legendary Member
  
  
• 10,000- Immortal Member
  
  

-or-

• 0- New Member
  
  
• 5- Starting Member
  
  
• 15- Junior Member
  
  
• 50- Member
  
  
• 100- Senior Member
  
• 250- Advanced (or Honored?) Member
  
  
• 500- Super Member
  
  
• 750- Ultimate Member
  
  
• 1,000- Supreme Member
  
  
• 1,500- Mystic Member
  
  
• 2,500- Divine Member
  
  
• 5,000- Legendary Member
  
  
• 10,000- Immortal Member
  
  

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Added what the full rankings would look like.

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Any of the three work, in my opinion. The difference with the first two comes with swapping Super Member and Honored Member; while I think Honored Member might sound like it would be higher than Super Member, personally, I believe that in order to keep the logical progression Honored Member should come before Super Member. Either way I believe it works, but I'd have to favor the second set over the first.

The third set is different, as it doesn't introduce Honored Member at all; instead, it bumps Ultimate Member down to 750, and Supreme Member to 1,000 (no argument that Supreme beats Ultimate). Mystic is then added as the 2,500 post count. What I like about the third set is that each grouping of stars has a theme; the first has a "regular" feel to it, while the second has a "super" or "heroic" feel to it, while the last has a "legendary" or "godly" or even "mythical" feel to it.

So if I had to choose, it'd be a tough call between the second and third scales I submitted...

In any case, I feel Legendary Member needs to be pushed back to the second-to-last ranking in any case, because it is (at least in my opinion) the most prestigious rank one can bestow short of making them immortal (which takes the last rank )

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Now that I'm thinking about it, in my third listing, I think it might be wise to replace "Advanced Member" with "Honored Member." I personally always had a problem with "Advanced Member;" I'm not quite sure why. I think "Honored Member" sounds a lot more prestigious, and works well as a set-up for Super, Ultimate, and Supreme.

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I hope no one minds that I deleted this list's first appearance and posted it on the tail end, but since I made so many edits, I'm not sure everyone saw them because of how late I made them. Rather than making four different posts for them all, I merged them into one.

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R and D, I think it's already been decided that there probably will be more user titles, and the Forum Legend usergroup (where you can customize your name) has already been pushed back to 1,500 posts (and being a member for five months). By the way, Krang himself already suggested that, if we add more ranks, the easiest thing to do would be to add one at 750 posts, and start new stars from 2,500 to 10,000. However, in order to end with four stars at 10,000, one more rank is needed beyond the 5,000 rank that we more or less agreed would be the next step from 2,500: I propose 7,500. It works quite well in the new progression (100, 250, 500, 750, 1,000, 2,500, 5,000, 7,500, 10,000...)

I think it's perfectly reasonable to have these new ranks and stars. Perhaps some people aren't satisfied with five silver stars. Perhaps some people would rather have the default titles over their custom title. Perhaps some people don't like seeing their names in silver. There's plenty of justifiable reasons for why this issue was brought up, I think. Not saying I endorse any of them, but those are some that come to mind.

I prefer the third. I like the way it flows. "Honored" doesn't really fit within the system.

I like the second one.

for some reason "mystic" just doesn't work for me..

Also.. anything flashing might be distracting and/or annoying.

what if we combine stars of different colors... that would be wierd.

Like someone could have a rainbow of stars.... nah thats too gay.

*I wanted to wait a bit longer and hear a few more ideas from the mods and admins, but I won't be around to check it this weekend, so I'll work with what time I've got now )*

Well I'm glad my ideas were well recieved, I really like the way Phoenix's second listing looks. And the biggest thing about the black/silver stars, is that thier not flashing too fast, thier still moderately slow, so they shouldnt bother any users, if it does though, then maybe we should look at a different one, or slow it down more, I just digged the styling of it.

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Now that I'm thinking about it, in my third listing, I think it might be wise to replace "Advanced Member" with "Honored Member." I personally always had a problem with "Advanced Member;" I'm not quite sure why. I think "Honored Member" sounds a lot more prestigious, and works well as a set-up for Super, Ultimate, and Supreme.

I agree, I too have a disliking of Advanced Member, and I think its because it sounds like the member is "Better" than other members, I mean all of the titles do that a little bit, but advanced just seems so direct. Like I've said since we asked about adding Legendary Member, member titles should always try to stay away from making another user feel "Unadvanced" or "Less Advanced" (in this case) than another member, because we're all equal. On another note, I like how Supreme and Divine fit in, as well as honored being below Super, it seems to be a bit less glorified than the Super Member title.

Oh well, I'll check replies when I get, maybe Monday or Tuesday?

Ok, I'm going to make 2 changes to the ranking system. After that, I'm not going to make any more until everyone can calm down and agree on something.

The first change I'm going to make is to reduce the posting requirement for Forum Legends to 1250 while leaving the time at 5 months (which would be an average of 250 posts per month). Hopefully this will emphasize that time spent here is more important than post counts.

Second, I'm really not sure what to do about the ranks, so for now, I'm going to get rid of the titles entirely until we can decide on something. The stars will remain the same, except 3 red stars will be bumped down to 750 posts, and 4 red stars will be bumped down to 1000 posts. As soon as we can agree on a new star color, 1500 posts will have one new star, 2500 will have 2, 5000 will have 3, and 10,000 will have 4.

What does everyone think?

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Originally posted by Krang Ok, I'm going to make 2 changes to the ranking system. After that, I'm not going to make any more until everyone can calm down and agree on something. The first change I'm going to make is to reduce the posting requirement for Forum Legends to 1250 while leaving the time at 5 months (which would be an average of 250 posts per month). Hopefully this will emphasize that time spent here is more important than post counts. Second, I'm really not sure what to do about the ranks, so for now, I'm going to get rid of the titles entirely until we can decide on something. The stars will remain the same, except 3 red stars will be bumped down to 750 posts, and 4 red stars will be bumped down to 1000 posts. As soon as we can agree on a new star color, 1500 posts will have one new star, 2500 will have 2, 5000 will have 3, and 10,000 will have 4. What does everyone think?

Sounds good to me. I'll try and do more thinking in regards to possible user titles; if I come up with anything, I'll be sure to post.

Actually, I just had a question: are you deleting all the user titles (therefore starting from scratch), or are we just leaving the 1,500 through 10,000 titles alone?

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Oh, and my previous "submissions" still stand, I suppose, if anyone wants to comment on them...I'll edit them accordingly in line for the scale (750, 1,000, 1,500, 2,500, 5,000, 10,000 instead of 750, 1,000, 2,500, 7,500, 10,000).

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Originally posted by Xineohp Nellaf Eht Actually, I just had a question: are you deleting all the user titles (therefore starting from scratch), or are we just leaving the 1,500 through 10,000 titles alone?

All of the ranks for regular members are being deleted and replaced with numbers for now. I'm just sick of the rank names being criticized, not just in this thread, but elsewhere as well (including The Technodrome, which uses the same rank names).