Batman Begins

Gummibear 08-02-2004 08:51 PM
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Originally posted by pen1300
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Originally posted by GummiBear289
Well I only pray the new Batman fares better than Catwoman...( -_- it's so unfair how they butchered catwoman...she was my fave character in the Batman universe...even though I realize it isn't the same catwoman but they still soiled her name. The only catwoman is Selina Kyle.) The teaser is decent I really hope they do Batman justice.^^

edit- I agree with Mistress-Samwise Superman does seem like a total fluffy pansy in comparision to Batman. I wish they would revive the animated series ( Batman)...I loved that show. *cries*


HM...from the little I've seen of this Batman moive, I'm going to go see it for sure! Def. plus if he can MOVE in that suit!

You saw the Catwoman movie? I REFUSE to see it on the principle that its not Selena Kyle and two, its not in the Batman universe. (OH! Let's just make her a sex symbol. GRRR) Catwoman is my fave character too.

What? Ashton Kutcher? Jack Black? WHAT THE...? Great...here we go with the Comic-Book-Hero-movies. Roll Eyes Batman will, of course survive, but the trend could go after Superman...or Green Latern...

Later,
Pen1300


Actually I took your position...I went to see I,Robot instead. My friends saw Catwoman ( they said it was awful)...Plus I could tell from the previews ...they pretty much butchered it.
Zopwx2 08-03-2004 05:13 AM
Catwoman = huge suck

I heard they were thinking of Jim Caveziel (sp?) for superman (jesus from mel G's passion)

ANYWAY who wants to see the tumbler drive around regular streets, with added commentary from stupid losers!

http://www.silentcorner.com/video/batman.mov
Hienrich Ele 08-03-2004 11:23 AM
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Originally posted by Zopwx2
Catwoman = huge suck

I heard they were thinking of Jim Caveziel (sp?) for superman (jesus from mel G's passion)

ANYWAY who wants to see the tumbler drive around regular streets, with added commentary from stupid losers!

http://www.silentcorner.com/video/batman.mov



Hehe... Jesus would be Superman...

Now, before I get killed by any people offended by that, lemme comment of that .mov thing!


Wow, I though it could only turn corners slowly untill the end. It sounds like a Batmobile, and sort of has the sleek design of it.

It can work, but it still won't make up for the fact that Batman has no yellow chest symbol!
Zopwx2 08-03-2004 11:08 PM
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Hey, i just thougt i'd pop in and let you all know that Dennis Miller's show (i forget, but i believe it airs on CNBC) recently had Stan Lee as a guest. Since i havent heard, nor seen, this reported anywhere on the NET, i guess i'm contributing some new knowlegde your way.

You see, this guest shot by Stan Lee is important because he actually makes numerous comments about "Batman Begins" in the episode, and quite frankly, Dennis Miller seemed darn right excited as hell for the new movie. There's a few cool tidbits here guys, so enjoy:

Fist off (non-BB releated), Miller said Stan Lee was the most influential man he he ever met, and that Stan Lee is the greatest comci book creator ever.

OK, now to the good stuff.

Miller asked Lee if he knew anything about the new Batman movie, and here's where Lee opened up just a bit:

First, he said the producers of Batman Begins (though he did not make it clear wheather he meant executives or Chris NOlan and his crew) actually sought him out for advice on the Batman movie (kinda makes sense, since Bob Kane is deceased), and Lee said he gave a few pointers to them.

Stan Lee said he's seen quite a bit of what's been filmed thus far, and that it really looks REALLY good, and , basically, that this film is going to be a winner.

Now, the juicy parts:

1.) Lee said that there are quite a few twists and turns comming for the audience that NOBODY but Nolan and his crew know about. (to me, this would not include the spoilers from the leaked "first draft" script-assuming it's real at all)

2.) Lee also stated that WB/Nolan had 8-YES, EIGHT-big cameos for this movie, both characters and A-box office stars. He then said WB decided eight was too many, but Lee said he knows for sure of three A-list stars that are going to make , like, 1 minute cameos in this movie, and that it could be a few more than the three he knows of. The way he said it, it sounded like some of the cameos would be batman characters (important ones), but A-list box office stars would be playing these roles.

Miller practically begged Lee to tell him more, and Lee said, "no...i cant."


Anyway, this all sounded pretty cool to me, and YES, it is legitamite. It was on Dennis Miller's cable tv show, and Stan Lee was the guest, and he said what i've reported here.


http://www.superherohype.com/forums/show...25&pagenumber=1

ANd here are some pics of Ken Watanabe's character:





Seems they actually have 5 tublers!

see the pics if you want'em: http://www.superherohype.com/batman/index.php?id=1823
Gummibear 08-04-2004 01:24 PM
Stan Lee! This movie should turn out great! It's interesting because Stan Lee works for Marvel and Batman is Warner Brothers. I'm glad Stan Lee is putting some input into the movie. I'm getting really anxious about now for the release of Batman Begins!
BethMcBeth 08-04-2004 04:54 PM
Wow another Batman movie? Interesting it seems that all the comis are now making their come backs. ^_^" Cool-ness though! ^_^:
Zopwx2 08-08-2004 03:16 AM
Massive picture update!!!!!!!!

From: http://www.superherohype.com/forums/show...threadid=123724

Wayne Manor:



Here are some ninja people Bruce trains with, notice that they look alot like batsuit. I think the batsuit was designed to look like these ninja suits.







Wow! Christian Bale is really getting into character:





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The new Batmobile, which began life as a Wayne Industries military prototype called The Tumbler, is 2.5 tons, 15 feet long, and has a 350-cubic-inch Chevy engine capable of 500 horsepower. It is equipped with front-firing machine guns, a landing hook and, as you can see, 4 rear super swamper tires.






The batsuit concept shot looks alot better with dark lighting:



Somone here has manipulated the batsuit photos:

Zopwx2 08-10-2004 07:17 PM
I'm not sure if anyone cares anymore.... BUT MORE PICS!!!!!!!!!!!!

from: http://internapse.proboards6.com/index.c...isplay&start=15

















Hienrich Ele 08-10-2004 08:05 PM
I still care!

The bat suit does look better in dark lighting, though my favorite is still the Tim Burton one...


This movie better portray Batman as he is supposed to be, dark and mean. Unlike the last two movies... WHICH CAN BURN IN HELL!
Zopwx2 08-15-2004 05:36 PM
http://newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16558

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DC'S BATMAN BEGINS PANEL @ WW: CHICAGO

DCs Batman Begins panel at WizardWorld was an anomaly among the rest of the WizardWorld panels from the fact that wristbands were needed to gain admittance, to the security guards roaming the aisles, to the short collection of clips from the movie that was shown.

Asked if there had been any particular difficulties with the film, Nolan said that the length of the production was somewhat difficult, citing that his first film, Memento, was filmed in 25 days, and that this day, August 14th, was the 108th day of shooting, and there was another month before it would be finished.

Nolan grew up in Chicago, which played a large part in why he chose to film the Gotham City scenes in the city. The director explained that early in development, as he was Photoshopping together a composite of what he thought Gotham City would look like, utilizing pieces of various other cities, he realized that much of what he was created, particularly the lower levels, resembled areas of Chicago he’d known in his youth, and even filmed student films in.

Something that also played a role in choosing Chicago was that Nolan wanted a good location in which to film an extended car chase with the Batmobile. “Batman has this amazing car,” Nolan said, “but you never really see it outside of the studio or off the sets.”

Batman comics played a role more in the scripting and design stages of the film, and Nolan said that he drew on Levitz, Goyer, and DC’s expertise in helping him to figure out what should be in the film, and what should be part of the character. The director acknowledged that Batman: Year One and The Long Halloween were particularly useful as sources for the story he wanted to tell. “I read them and just let them wash around in the back of my head,” the director said. Also speaking of the comics, Nolan said that he viewed the character as an evolution, which allowed him to look at the wealth of Batman stories that had been created over the years, and to pull out what worked form those stories – what had become iconic, and keep it for his version.

Asked how he felt about filling the shoes of Joel Schumacher in regards to taking up the Batman film mantle (a question which earned laughter from the audience), Goyer turned to Nolan and asked, “Yeah, are there going to be bat nipples?”

“No Bat nipples,” an exasperated Nolan replied.

Describing and explaining the design for the new Batmobile, Nolan said that the car was one of the first things to be designed for the film, and was created while the project was in the treatment stage. “I wanted to get across to everyone what my vision, at that stage, of the film should be, so that everyone would get it. “I wanted to create a modern, contemporary version of the character, and this was a way to show that.”

Nolan went on to say that the designs for other Batmobiles in the franchise had ultimately gone retro, as they were extrapolated from sports cars of the era in which the respective Bat-project was made. The director said that he wanted to break with tat retro view, and give the car a design that could do all the things that you think it should be able to do.

“I looked at is as why does he have this car, and how does it help him do what he needs to do,” Nolan explained, adding that in the film, the car is a military prototype which he appropriates for his own use.

When a audience member asked about the freedom the studio has given him to date on the film, Nolan said that Warner Brothers had been marvelous, something which he credited in part to his going to great pains to explain in detail of how he saw the film, and making Warner Brothers understand that whatever Batman film came next had to be very original and fresh.

At this point in the panel, Levitz once again took the podium, and praised Nolan’s vision for the film, as well as his direction. “He has a tremendous personal passion for getting this right in every detail…he’s going to have a hell of a film next year.”

Nolan departed amid his applause.

Levitz then asked for the clip collection to be started (and the policeman who was in attendance at the front of the room, raised his nightvision scope to keep an eye out for anyone filming the presentation).

The footage began with Batman donning his costume, and loading for bear, moving quickly to a battle scene in a trainyard between Batman and some thugs. Sword fighting on ice with Liam Neeson came next as well as a shot of Christian Bale, as Bruce Wayne, making the Batman costume. A scene with the car came next, showing a camouflage-colored prototype driving on an indoor test track. Cut to the inside of the car:

Morgan Freeman (Lucius Fox, in passenger seat): “So what do you think?”

Christian Bale (Bruce Wayne, in driver’s seat, hands on wheel, with slight smile): “Does it come in black?”

The montage moved faster from there, showing: a clip of Bruce Wayne training in the Himalayas, and battling for his life among other fighters, a snippet of Gary Oldman (Commissioner Gordon) walking in a hall, Katie Holmes (Rachel Dodson) being attacked by a very realistic (and fear-gas firing) Scarecrow; Bruce battling Ra’s al Ghul; Wayne and Dodson kissing; a flaming Batman falling onto a car roof; and finally, back in the trainyard, with a thug yelling, “Where are you?!?”

The camera moves back slightly, showing Batman, hanging upside down behind him. “Here.”

The crowd, as they say, went nuts, getting quickly to their feet.

It took a little while to calm down, but once people were back in their seats, Levitz said that there was time for Goyer and Thomas to field some questions (meanwhile, a Warner Brothers studio rep collected the Beta SP editing tape, and left with a security guard escort).

Thomas pointed out that what the audience had just seen was still pretty raw. Earlier, Nolan had said that he hasn’t even started editing the film yet – he likes to shoot the complete movie, and then start editing. In light of this comment, Levitz noted that there was no CGI in anything that was just shown, including Batman, on fire, falling from a rooftop onto a car’s roof.

Asked if, since they’ll be included in the film, if the origins of Ra’s or the Scarecrow would be shown, Goyer said that he couldn’t really answer the question. The screenwriter also added, when asked, that Ra’s will not call Batman “detective” as he does in the comics in Batman Begins, because, as Goyer explained, this is the first Batman story – he hasn’t built up that repoutation yet.

Levitz added that even the smallest details, such as what Ra’s calls Batman, have been the subject of debate.

“Every little detail,” Goyer said, adding that while the story of the film draws from the comics, it is still very much its own story, citing the example that, in the comics, Ra’s was never involved in Bruce Wayne’s teaching/training, or the larger origin of Batman.

Thomas said that she; Nolan and Goyer were thankful that Levitz was always on the other end of the phone when they needed his expertise, or that of anyone at DC. Levitz then related a story about being called on a Saturday afternoon when Nolan was stuck on a word in a draft of a scene. Levitz said that he thought about it, then called Denny O‘Neil to ask him, and ultimately, Nolan used his own word.

Goyer agreed with the amount of back and forth, recalling a meeting in Levitz’s office in New York, when he found himself looking at a tapestry of Batman, and asking the Publisher what the things that stuck out of the sides of Batman’s gauntlets were, and what they did. Levitz told him that they were called “scallops.”

“Yeah,” Goyer said, “But what do they do?”

“Now they do do something,” said the screenwriter, later adding that nothing in the film, or the character is arbitrary. Goyer added that he and Nolan added in a plausible reason as to why the costume has the pointy bat ears.

The comment sparked Goyer to tell a story about how closely he and Nolan worked on the film, telling the audience that, for the bulk of the writing, he and the director worked in Nolan’s home office, sitting at a partner desk, which has two sides, allowing them to both have a workspace that attached to the other’s. Thomas was nine months pregnant at the time (Thomas is Nolan’s wife), and at one point, came and stood in the doorway while Nolan was describing a scene to Goyer.

It was the screenwriter who finally stopped Nolan, and asked “Emma, do you need something?” To which Thomas told the two her water had just broken. She had the baby later that day.

“And you thought you were going to get the next day off,” Thomas laughed.

“True story,” Goyer said. “The bulk of Batman Begins was written with the two of us sitting on opposite sides of this partner desk in Chris’ office, with a bassinette between us. Chris would take a turn rocking the baby, and then I’d take a turn.”

For a review of the footage by CBR's Augie De Blieck Jr., click here
Darth Nat 08-15-2004 09:33 PM
This movie should be good. The only thing that really confuses me is continuity issues with the first Batman movie. In that movie, Batman was not very well-known and it was really his first major appearance. The picture showing the Bat Signal confuses me as well, since Batman didn't give it to Gordon until the end of the first movie. But, I think the movie should turn out well despite these concerns. Big Grin
Hienrich Ele 08-15-2004 09:38 PM
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Originally posted by Darth Nat
This movie should be good. The only thing that really confuses me is continuity issues with the first Batman movie. In that movie, Batman was not very well-known and it was really his first major appearance. The picture showing the Bat Signal confuses me as well, since Batman didn't give it to Gordon until the end of the first movie. But, I think the movie should turn out well despite these concerns. Big Grin


I read somewhere that they are trying to start a whole new Batman plot. Completely ignoring the other 4. Which is both good and bad. Good because it skips the last 2, but bad because it skips the first 2.
Nyarlathotep 08-16-2004 01:02 PM
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Originally posted by Hienrich Ele
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Originally posted by Darth Nat
This movie should be good. The only thing that really confuses me is continuity issues with the first Batman movie. In that movie, Batman was not very well-known and it was really his first major appearance. The picture showing the Bat Signal confuses me as well, since Batman didn't give it to Gordon until the end of the first movie. But, I think the movie should turn out well despite these concerns. Big Grin


I read somewhere that they are trying to start a whole new Batman plot. Completely ignoring the other 4. Which is both good and bad. Good because it skips the last 2, but bad because it skips the first 2.


I dunno, I was never really comfortable with the idea of having the guy who would become the joker be the same thug who shot Bruce's parents. I mean, read Killing Joke. I think it's a good thing that they're just bulldozing the old Batman movies under. Maybe they can keep one actor under the cowl for more than one movie now too.
Hienrich Ele 08-16-2004 04:50 PM
Aye, I believe it is the graphic novel "Year Two" that Batman meets the real killer of his parents. I heard he even makes a deal with him. Needless to say, I am going to buy this book ASAP! Big Grin

I am somewhat glad they are starting over. Batman Returns, depsite it being one of my favorite movies, is all wrong. The Penguin isn't a half penguin guy, he is a normal human being who is short and wears a suit and has a weird nose. And he is the leader of a mob. He is not pshycotic, and is quite professional. The animated series portrayed him this way.

Plus you can't kill the Joker and the Penguin! Though each of their deaths were cool...
Darth Nat 08-16-2004 05:41 PM
Well, if they decide to bring the Joker back again in a later movie, I just don't know how they'll be able to find an actor who could deliver a performance on par with that of Jack Nicholson. He really made the first Batman movie, and I don't think anyone could do the job better than he did.
Hienrich Ele 08-16-2004 07:29 PM
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Originally posted by Darth Nat
Well, if they decide to bring the Joker back again in a later movie, I just don't know how they'll be able to find an actor who could deliver a performance on par with that of Jack Nicholson. He really made the first Batman movie, and I don't think anyone could do the job better than he did.



On the Special Edition Batman DVD, which hopefully will be out by Christmas, there are a bunch of deleted scenes and extras.

Robin Williams tried for the part. He was supposedly very good. And the DVD will have his try out on it. So, I haven't seen how he looks now-a-days, but he could.

Though I do not see how he can live up to Jack Nicholson. He is the Joker!
Almasy 08-16-2004 07:57 PM
I'm really looking forward to this movie! ^__^

It has a great cast of actors (though, I'm kind of annoyed that Katie Holmes is in it as the lead female...I'm really not a big fan of hers), and I think that it's a shame that there aren't any female villains, though I don't think that anyone could top Pfeiffer's Catwoman.

The only other thing that I'm disapointed about is the batmobile. It just looks like a pile of junk that's falling apart!

But, all in all I'm looking forward to it, I really liked the look of the trailer (the music was great!)
Nyarlathotep 08-16-2004 11:01 PM
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Originally posted by Hienrich Ele
Plus you can't kill the Joker and the Penguin! Though each of their deaths were cool...


Someone hasn't read The Dark Knight Returns. Or Kingdom Come if you want to see the Joker die yet again...
Zopwx2 08-17-2004 03:13 PM
More pics anyone?

http://internapse.proboards6.com/index.c...isplay&start=15







Look at their arsenal of cars that they used for this movie:

















"City of Gotham, Founded 1820"





Oooh, Wayne Bentley!
Hienrich Ele 08-18-2004 01:14 AM
Wow. That is a whole lot of cars.


I want to see this movie so bad! Never before has there been a movie that I have felt like this about!