Is R. Dorothy "fully functional"?

i dont see why androids can love after all androids maybe considered human...maybe.

Why do we *care* if Dorothy is fully functional? It's none of our business!

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Originally posted by YoruameBaroness Why do we *care* if Dorothy is fully functional? It's none of our business!

Why not? I know she's fully functional. I...err...asked her.

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Originally posted by YoruameBaroness Why do we *care* if Dorothy is fully functional? It's none of our business!

You know perfectly well why we care. We're healthy boys and girls with active fantasy lives!

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Originally posted by A Clockwork Tomato quote: Originally posted by YoruameBaroness Why do we *care* if Dorothy is fully functional? It's none of our business! You know perfectly well why we care. We're healthy boys and girls with active fantasy lives!

And obviously inactive real lives. BAZING!

Can we *please* be Rated PG-13?

hmm...if Dorothy *is* "fully functional", then wouldn't that mean that her 'Father' was a real pervert O.o;;;

I mean building an android to remind him of his daughter is one thing...but...that, that would just be....GAAHHH!!! O_O;;;

We sometimes get a little detailed but most of the time it's called for. The 'Is Dorothy fully functional' question is relevent to Dorothy's future with Roger. Sex is an important part of any marriage or long-term romantic pairing. If Dorothy isn't 'fully functional' then you have to worry about how serious a relationship she could actually have with Roger.

And her ability to feel pleasure is also important to this. It might be a little uncomfortable for some people to discuss but it is important. I'd like to think that Dorothy can feel that sorta thing but as of yet we don't have a lot of evidence to support that view. Which bothers me some.

Season three, anyone?



-dork

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Originally posted by evanASF27 hmm...if Dorothy *is* "fully functional", then wouldn't that mean that her 'Father' was a real pervert O.o;;; I mean building an android to remind him of his daughter is one thing...but...that, that would just be....GAAHHH!!! O_O;;;

It looks like Dorothy was put together from blue prints that even Wayneright didn't understand. Dorothy said in 'Underground Terror' that Wayneright didn't have a complete understanding of her core technology.

Basically Wayneright found/came up with/remembered the blue prints, got funding for the parts and put her together. He didn't understand how all of it worked but it did and out of it came Dorothy. It's prolly the same thing as putting together a ham radio. You don't know why it works* but it does.

It would be really twisted if he designed her with a sex drive otherwise. Fathers tend to be very protective of their daughters.

There's further evidence that he had no clue how she worked from how Wayneright treated her once she was 'born'. Assuming that she was like any other blank slate android you'll find in Paradigm Wayneright made her act like his deseased daughter not realizing that R. Dorothy had her own personality and that he was doing a fair amount of pychological damage to Dorothy by not letting her be herself.

In the short time we see him Wayneright does seem to care for R. Dorothy, so I doubt he would have forced her to act like his daughter if he'd known that she was an individual herself.


muchlove
-dork

*although I'm sure many people do, it's not necessary to getting the thing to work

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Originally posted by YoruameBaroness Can we *please* be Rated PG-13?

I think we've been well within PG so far, though I haven't actually looked up the ratings guidelines.

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Originally posted by evanASF27 hmm...if Dorothy *is* "fully functional", then wouldn't that mean that her 'Father' was a real pervert O.o;;;

Why? Human daughters are "fully functional," and you aren't applying the same rule to THEIR fathers. Be consistent!

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Originally posted by A Clockwork Tomato quote: Originally posted by YoruameBaroness Can we *please* be Rated PG-13? I think we've been well within PG so far, though I haven't actually looked up the ratings guidelines.

To be Rated-R, you have to use foul language and violence. We (Dork, ACT, myself, and some others) use innuendoes and insinuations to get our point across. Not once have we use any term that was inappropriate. I think I can speak for the rest when I say that we are not trying to do anything but be analytical and humorous too.

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Originally posted by evanASF27 hmm...if Dorothy *is* "fully functional", then wouldn't that mean that her 'Father' was a real pervert O.o;;;

Oh yeah right, I can see Timothy march into Dorothy's room and demand some "sugar" from her.

Not going to happen! Like Dorothy said ("Underground Terror") that her father was a craftsman. She was built so well, Roger complemented on her marvelous design.

No, Timothy is much of a incest pediphiler as much as the next loving father.

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Originally posted by Tony quote: Originally posted by evanASF27 hmm...if Dorothy *is* "fully functional", then wouldn't that mean that her 'Father' was a real pervert O.o;;; Oh yeah right, I can see Timothy march into Dorothy's room and demand some "sugar" from her. Not going to happen! Like Dorothy said ("Underground Terror") that her father was a craftsman. She was built so well, Roger complemented on her marvelous design. No, Timothy is much of a incest pediphiler as much as the next loving father.

Ugh... I don't know why building a fully functional "daughter" would necessarily mean perversion.

I'm sure he knew he wasn't going to live forever. He might have made sure she was "functional" if only to see to it that she had a good husband to take care of her when he was gone.

It might be that it was part of the plans and it would have taken a great deal of extra work *not* to do it.

It might just be that he wanted her to be as human as possible.

None of those things has anything to do with perversion or incest, and they are all perfectly logical reasons.

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Originally posted by Tony quote: Originally posted by YoruameBaroness Why do we *care* if Dorothy is fully functional? It's none of our business! Why not? I know she's fully functional. I...err...asked her.

Her sex life is really none of our business, don't you think?

I do.

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Originally posted by YoruameBaroness quote: Originally posted by Tony quote: Originally posted by YoruameBaroness Why do we *care* if Dorothy is fully functional? It's none of our business! Why not? I know she's fully functional. I...err...asked her. Her sex life is really none of our business, don't you think? I do.

The details of her sexual activities are none of our business, granted. However, the ability to have and enjoy sex is something that is left to conjecture and scrutiny. I am not asking if she will make a porn flick (though, I wouldn't mind being one of the cast members). I'm just asking if she is capable of feeling the physical sensations of passion that we all take for granted.

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Originally posted by Tony quote: Originally posted by YoruameBaroness quote: Originally posted by Tony quote: Originally posted by YoruameBaroness Why do we *care* if Dorothy is fully functional? It's none of our business! Why not? I know she's fully functional. I...err...asked her. Her sex life is really none of our business, don't you think? I do. The details of her sexual activities are none of our business, granted. However, the ability to have and enjoy sex is something that is left to conjecture and scrutiny. I am not asking if she will make a porn flick (though, I wouldn't mind being one of the cast members). I'm just asking if she is capable of feeling the physical sensations of passion that we all take for granted.

I believe there is a limit to how far we can poke and prod into a person's life, real or fictional. And I think this thread crosses that line.

And even if she can experience that pleasure, what can you do about it, Tony?

Nothing. That's what I thought.

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Originally posted by YoruameBaroness quote: Originally posted by Tony quote: Originally posted by YoruameBaroness quote: Originally posted by Tony quote: Originally posted by YoruameBaroness Why do we *care* if Dorothy is fully functional? It's none of our business! Why not? I know she's fully functional. I...err...asked her. Her sex life is really none of our business, don't you think? I do. The details of her sexual activities are none of our business, granted. However, the ability to have and enjoy sex is something that is left to conjecture and scrutiny. I am not asking if she will make a porn flick (though, I wouldn't mind being one of the cast members). I'm just asking if she is capable of feeling the physical sensations of passion that we all take for granted. I believe there is a limit to how far we can poke and prod into a person's life, real or fictional. And I think this thread crosses that line. And even if she can experience that pleasure, what can you do about it, Tony? Nothing. That's what I thought.

Well, if she could and I was in Paradigm... I'd get some Al Green or Tavares (Disco) and have a nice outing with her.

And, if she couldn't and I was in Paradigm... I'd get some Al Green or Tavares (Disco) and have a nice outing with her.

As you can see, it really doesn't matter to me. It's just something to think about.

You cannot be "in love" with someone without there being a biological urge to "mate".

The very idea of a machine, created by humans, developing the ability to "fall in love" is endlessly fascinating, and compelling.

To me if a machine developed the desire to "mate" with a human because it was "in love", I might even begin to question if that mechanical creature had developed an actual soul.

Although sex and love are two different things, sex when "in love" is so much more than simply a biological urge.
In love, human sexuality is something which makes you literally want to "merge" with the person you're "in love" with.


It is almost as if it is a part of the "spiritual quality", which makes one human.

That quality was revealed much to Becks horror and confusion when a supposedly inoperable Dorothy sat up screaming as her "spirit" realized that Roger was in danger of dying.

Dorothy is so much more than "just an android".
She is quite literally a mechanical HUMAN.
She is the quintessential nightingale.

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You cannot be "in love" with someone without there being a biological urge to "mate".

Says who?

You can love someone without having sexual urges. And yes, it is quite possible, as some people do lack sex drives.

And yeah, yeah, yeah, I know they have medicine to help that sort of stuff, but what good would medicine do an android?

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Originally posted by YoruameBaroness quote: You cannot be "in love" with someone without there being a biological urge to "mate". Says who? You can love someone without having sexual urges. And yes, it is quite possible, as some people do lack sex drives. And yeah, yeah, yeah, I know they have medicine to help that sort of stuff, but what good would medicine do an android?

Says me.

I said nothing about simply loving someone.

I was referring to being "in love" with someone.

The only people who don't consummate such a relationship sexually are those who have medical conditions or are outside the loop, as in a case where someone "falls in love" with a married person or something of an equally tragic nature.

So there's something medically wrong with me because I don't want to have sex? Man, your logic is screwed to hell in my humble opinion.

There's nothing wrong with me medically. I just don't want to have sex.

Now, back on topic. To be in love with someone does not necessarily mean you wish to have sex with them. To be in love with someone means that you care about them deeply, IMO. One can wish to express that love sexually, but that love does not have to be expressed in a sexual manner because there are other ways to express romantic love.

Gah.