[Other] The Big-Oh! RP — An Archive of Plans and Discussions

The Fallen Phoenix 09-03-2004 08:57 PM
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Originally posted by stryker
Uhh... security issues? Wink

Seriously, I read what you wrote before, and I was really happy with it. I'll go over things again, but... it's pretty darn impressive. Alex and Vera are excellently represented in your posts. I've actually been studying what you, Tiff, pen and the others have been writing. But I'll give it a go and see if I can think of anything. I bet tho that I just decide that there are style differences among us. Are you wanting more prosaic ways of putting things or something? More length? I'm afraid that if FP is the queen of length, I have to be His Royal Majesty of Verbosity. Big Grin


Well, I guess I'll take that as a compliment. Tongue I just have a long, drawn out style of writing; Wienberg never misses an oppurtunity to comment on how "fluffy" it is.

As for Big Finale, there haven't been any glaring errors in your posts; at least, not that I can see. Characterization is fine: I really haven't noticed Alex or Vera saying or doing anything that could be considered out of character.

Description...actually, that's one of my difficulties as a writer, too. I find that I'm a lot better at providing figurative descriptions than literal descriptions...

The only advice I can give is read up on authors such as (never thought I'd see myself recommending her) Willa Cather, who excel at physical description...that's really how you improve as a writer, in general: read successful authors. stryker listed some of the better ones to read up on in his last post...
stryker 09-03-2004 09:13 PM
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Originally posted by The Fallen Phoenix
Well, I guess I'll take that as a compliment. Tongue I just have a long, drawn out style of writing; Wienberg never misses an oppurtunity to comment on how "fluffy" it is.

*laughs!* Dude, you have to know that I love your style. Your posts and what you've done to reveal Michael Seebach's innermost thoughts, and perhaps even some of Schwarzwald, are sheer genious. Maybe we all need to have an affirmation meeting with Big Finale. Wink

Oh yeah, ditto what he said. I've been browsing your (BF's) posts and they're short and to the point in the beginning, but that's certainly no shortcoming. Towards the end, with Emilia, they're simply fab. I really can't think of how to improve them. Just keep doing what you're doing! Well, and like FP and I said, if you can think of an author who lit up your eyes, reread a chapter and see what they did with character, setting description, or whatever. But don't think for a minute that you're disappointing anyone! I think you're just great.
evanASF27 09-03-2004 09:15 PM
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Well, I guess I'll take that as a compliment. I just have a long, drawn out style of writing; Wienberg never misses an oppurtunity to comment on how "fluffy" it is.

Yes but I complain you're too friggin whateveritis. YOu're writing has to be the "fluffyest" s**t in the forums x_X Jeez!

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For the better writers among us, could you please go over my posts and look for things I can improve? I know I need to work on writing in character for both Alex and Vera (any tips would be appreciated), describing backgrounds, describing characters, that sort of thing.

My advice. Write out every detail. Every single frickin thing there is. The eye twitches, the sweat, the manner in how they step and walk, the gleam off the barrel of their double shotgun Tongue , the expression on peoples faces (All of them!), the surroundings...how dark is it, where the lights are, if its humid or cold or whatever...

every single detail can be used to describe certain aspects of a scene. If you want suspense you can say how someone had to adjust their tie and wipe the sweat of his brow as he sat uncomfortably waiting for the reply from the illatease butler. A vien showed itself on his forhead and his eyes widened...


you know...that kinda descriptive sh!t Tongue Big Grin

*edit*
Btw, I didn't know that FP could be a psycho burn victim. Tongue I thought I was the best schwarzwald (aside from Schwarzwald) cos I kind drive myself mad enough to write like Schwarzwald would. However I suppose FP is a good Michael Seebach, cos Seebach isn't that insane Wink Tongue HA! So I'm still a great (if not better) schwarzwald! w00t!!!! *does funky dance*
stryker 09-03-2004 09:23 PM
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Originally posted by evanASF27
I thought I was the best schwarzwald (aside from Schwarzwald) cos I kind drive myself mad enough to write like Schwarzwald would. However I suppose FP is a good Michael Seebach, cos Seebach isn't that insane Wink Tongue HA! So I'm still a great (if not better) schwarzwald! w00t!!!! *does funky dance*


*LAUGHS!* Uhm.... I was gonna say something, but I just... words won't come! Big Grin

Well, except he's right in the description department, very well exampled. And welcome aboard Dan Dastun, that was a cool post you did!
The Big Finale 09-03-2004 09:29 PM
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This is a lot like watching the third season in a way, except we're bringing it to life!


Well, actually, this is more like a rewrite of The Big O II; but the sentiment remains, I'm sure.

-- FP, the "queen" of length? Shades of the Rocky Horror Picture Show there, methinks. Just a sweet transvestitie... Sorry, FP!

-- Thanks for the advice. To be honest, though, I never really liked Tolkien's writing style; the stories he tells I like though.

-- As for characterization, it's not that I want to correct any flaws, it's that I want to be able to act even more like them than I am. Although, there is one thing; I get the feeling I'm portraying them both with worse tempers than they actually have, though I do plan to reveal soon that Alex was acting that way for a purpose; true to form, I haven't yet decided what that purpose is. Tongue

One of the major things I'm trying to improve in my characterizations of Alex and Vera are speech patterns. I have the Big O I Complete Collection, so I can watch that and listen to how Alex talks, but I don't have any Season II DVDs (waiting for that Complete Collection), and the transcripts here on Paradigm City don't reach Stripes, so I've had to get by on my (unreliable) memory for Vera (who is, incidentally, my favorite female character. Because she is some freaky kind of imposing, as Tifaria will testify.)

-- Description... it's hard for me to say which way I want to go... I do know that I have a LOT of trouble with describing backgrounds. Unlike you, FP, I'd prefer to move into a more literal way of describing things. Also, writing character's thoughts always seems to bother me somehow as well... I don't know why, but it does. I find myself using that a lot to enlarge my posts when I can't think of anything else to do. Maybe that's why it bugs me. I'm just using it for filler.

I guess what it comes down to is that I really don't know how I want to write. -_-;;
Tifaria 09-03-2004 09:47 PM
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Originally posted by The Fallen Phoenix
I must say, I really must applaud Tifaria's excellent portrayal of Beck and Angel's interaction...she's done an excellent job up to this point, but I particularly liked how she managed it in her previous post.


Aww, thanks! I've been trying to make their bickering a little more, err.. well, relevant to the story as opposed to the "old married couple"-ish bickering they were doing before.


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Originally posted by Xel
Blee! This REALLY picked up! @.o Um, um, bear with me, folks! I'm a little busy with school, but I'll try real hard to post sometime this weekend. And AHAHAHA THANK YOU, Tif and Finale, for allowing Alan to take *cough* care of Beck... *rubs hands together sinisterly*



Muahaha! Yes, "take care" of him all you want! If it helps to take control of Beck in your posts, feel free to do so. I've been anticipating some Alan/Beck action almost as much as the Vera/Angel showdown.. although in quite a *cough* different way. Big Grin


And Big Finale, if you need to write some of Angel's dialogue/actions in your posts, go ahead. I think it'd be hard for either of us to write action scenes without taking some control of each other's characters.



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originally posted by Big Finale
Well, actually, this is more like a rewrite of The Big O II; but the sentiment remains, I'm sure.

-- FP, the "queen" of length? Shades of the Rocky Horror Picture Show there, methinks. Just a sweet transvestitie... Sorry, FP!

-- Thanks for the advice. To be honest, though, I never really liked Tolkien's writing style; the stories he tells I like though.

-- As for characterization, it's not that I want to correct any flaws, it's that I want to be able to act even more like them than I am. Although, there is one thing; I get the feeling I'm portraying them both with worse tempers than they actually have, though I do plan to reveal soon that Alex was acting that way for a purpose; true to form, I haven't yet decided what that purpose is.

One of the major things I'm trying to improve in my characterizations of Alex and Vera are speech patterns. I have the Big O I Complete Collection, so I can watch that and listen to how Alex talks, but I don't have any Season II DVDs (waiting for that Complete Collection), and the transcripts here on Paradigm City don't reach Stripes, so I've had to get by on my (unreliable) memory for Vera (who is, incidentally, my favorite female character. Because she is some freaky kind of imposing, as Tifaria will testify.)

-- Description... it's hard for me to say which way I want to go... I do know that I have a LOT of trouble with describing backgrounds. Unlike you, FP, I'd prefer to move into a more literal way of describing things. Also, writing character's thoughts always seems to bother me somehow as well... I don't know why, but it does. I find myself using that a lot to enlarge my posts when I can't think of anything else to do. Maybe that's why it bugs me. I'm just using it for filler.

I guess what it comes down to is that I really don't know how I want to write. -_-;;



"Freaky kind of imposing" does not even begin to describe Vera. 0_0 I think you're doing a really wonderful job with her, though, considering that you don't have anything to refer to about her.

I think your descriptions are fine, from what I've read. I tend to prefer a more "dry" style of description too. If it helps, try throwing in details to the description: For example, if you're describing a tree, you might try saying "The tree was tall and leafless, its trunk weathered and peeling off in thick layers." Or something like that. Just try and get as much as you can in there. It doesn't have to be flowery "The tree towered over him like a giant, its leaves shades of emerald against the azure sky" or anything like that.

Err, I forgot where I was going with this... oh! Well, my point was, the little nitty gritty details might help you feel like you're writing more. As for character's thoughts, I don't see them as "filler". Character thoughts are essential to any writing! It lets you understand what's going on in there, and why they're doing what they're doing.

I'd suggest reading a lot. I mean a LOT. If you have a favorite book, or author, read them as many times as you can stand and take their style and mess around with it, and incorporate things into your own writing. It's not terribly noticeable, but I've been trying little variations in my writing every time I post. Also, I tend to compose in my head a lot, wherever I'm at. If I'm at work, I'm writing in my head, or at school, or.. wherever, really. By the time I've got an entire post planned out, I go back to the beginning and start reading it back to myself mentally, over and over, to make sure there aren't parts that sound awkward or anything. Sometimes I might even read it out loud! You'd be surprised how much reading out loud helps.

And, if worse comes to worse, there's always the option of getting someone else to read it for you and tell you what they think. Personally, I'm kind of shy about my writing and I don't tend to show anyone until I post it. Big Grin But it might help you, you never know.

So.. yeah. I don't know if any of that helps or not, but there it is. Smile )
The Big Finale 09-03-2004 10:15 PM
Excellect, excellent! What a brilliant line for Vera, too!

“A devil named Angel. How ironic.”

I think I'll break my normal tradition of on the spot writing and actually think this one out. Gotta give Angel opportunities to fight back but still keep Vera on top...
stryker 09-03-2004 10:41 PM
Man, this is intense. I haven't even read all of Tiff's post yet. I'll let the wiser, older folk set the pace for this, and I'll await word when to jump in.

Man, what an RP! Big Grin
harshfire 09-03-2004 10:58 PM
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Originally posted by stryker
Man, this is intense. I haven't even read all of Tiff's post yet. I'll let the wiser, older folk set the pace for this, and I'll await word when to jump in.

Man, what an RP! Big Grin


You should go now, since my post involved you. Of course you can wait if you'd like and I'll edit my post to the point where I haven't quite met up with you.

I have read the latest post, and I currently have to people to wait for now before I can manage to make my next move, considering the fact that my character was just placed in there and every move she makes is based on what stryker and Snake do. She hasn't exactly managed to get involved with any other character. Or at least not of yet. I'm almost sure that soon I'll be more involved with Angel and Vera and Beck and whoever else will be involved with this upcoming RP plot.

Brad: Plot? There's a plot?
stryker 09-03-2004 11:17 PM
Hrm.... I was about to post something, but I think I'll let Angel and Vera decide when to open the scene to interference. This is... well, intense is the only word to come to mind.

ROCKING intense! Big Grin

Uhh.... well.... something really small, maybe...
harshfire 09-03-2004 11:25 PM
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Originally posted by stryker
Hrm.... I was about to post something, but I think I'll let Angel and Vera decide when to open the scene to interference. This is... well, intense is the only word to come to mind.

ROCKING intense! Big Grin

Uhh.... well.... something really small, maybe...


All I'm really looking for is either a yes or no. Either way I'm going to go with you. BUt yes, it should be up to Angel and Vera to put it up for interference. Until then, I'm not going to make a move. Now that I have an idea of what's going on, my character will act more accordingly to what is needed of her.

I have a few surprises...and Julia here won't be quite as mysterious as before. I've revealed a little more of her personality and I think that's made her a little more open, but she still needs to be shaped a little more. Based on what you and Snake do is how she will turn out and also on what I decide she will do.

Later Days,

JA
Tifaria 09-03-2004 11:56 PM
My gun...! Evil Nooo!


Oh man, I'm going to have to think on this one.. Big Finale, Vera's dialogue is.. is.. brilliant. I get knots in my stomach reading it.. in a good way. And the little things.. calling Angel "mon petite Angel", and touching her cheek.. aaaah, the tension! The angst!


I'm going to have to sleep on this one, I think.. Little Angel's gotten herself into a rather sticky situation! I'll see if I can post in the morning, or if not then, tomorrow night after work. That'll (hopefully) give Xel some time to let us know what Alan's up to over there with Beck... poor Beck!
stryker 09-03-2004 11:58 PM
I'm gonna delete my post. I don't want to interrupt this. I'll be sure and save it.
Tifaria 09-03-2004 11:59 PM
Don't delete it! You could edit it so that... well, it's late and I'm tired and I can't think of anything just yet, but I like the dialogue with Julia, so keep it! Maybe Roger pulled over because he saw Julia running at him, instead of being at the bridge already? Maybe?
The Big Finale 09-04-2004 12:06 AM
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Vera's dialogue is.. is.. brilliant.


Wow, really? Thanks, Tifaria. My goal in life is to become a comic book (actually, manga) artist, so that's why I feel my writing skills lacking. I've always focused on dialogue, because that's the major form of writing you need to do in a comic.

I agree with Tifaria, stryker. Besides, only mods can delete posts. Tongue
evanASF27 09-04-2004 12:23 AM
and isn't it great we have a mod in the RPG?! Big Grin Yes Big Finale that was a very good post Smile Very very good!
stryker 09-04-2004 12:49 AM
Yeah, definitely! That's why I don't want a Roger post in the middle of it. I have it saved and all. Uhm... I'll repost it after Tiff's post this weekend. Or... well, I'll reread your guys' most excellent posts and think about it, but I think Tiff should get one more scene first before Roger comes barging in. Right now I'm digging up more dialog from the DVDs, I'm sure that'll bring a smile to Big Finale. Wink
Xel 09-04-2004 01:05 AM
The more I see/post in this little episode of the storyline, the more ideas I get for Alan's character... but I think I'll leave them as surprises. Wink

Still... >__> you know, I think I might be afraid of Alan by the time we get into the real meat of the plot. Oh Well
The Big Finale 09-04-2004 01:19 AM
Whoa. So it would seem that Alan does still like Angel, if you could call it that.

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The more I see/post in this little episode of the storyline, the more ideas I get for Alan's character... but I think I'll leave them as surprises.


Yeah? Wait'll you see what I've got in store later... ...most of which involves, Alan, Vera, and megadei.
stryker 09-04-2004 01:20 AM
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Originally posted by Xel
The more I see/post in this little episode of the storyline, the more ideas I get for Alan's character... but I think I'll leave them as surprises. Wink
Still... >__> you know, I think I might be afraid of Alan by the time we get into the real meat of the plot. Oh Well

*laughs!* Uhm... maybe now would be a good time to retire to Bermuda? Hurricanes are a LOT safer! Big Grin

Okay, my post is now followign Xel's marvelous scene. I think that should sit well with the rhythm of things.