Cast in the name of God Ye not Guilty
| megalo03 |
08-07-2003 07:06 PM |

CAST IN THE NAME OF GOD YE NOT GUILTY!!!!!
What does it mean? Is it good or bad? Some please help me out and tell me.
| Lady Tesser |
08-07-2003 07:15 PM |
Well, according to one source, the director admitted they got the phrase from an executioner's sword from one of the Conan the Barbarian movies.
Biblically speaking, the most notable story involved a group of townspeople attempting to stone a prostitute. My Bible stuff is kinda dusty (age does that to you, kids), but one of the men pointed out that those who are entirely without sin may cast stones in God's name (beginning to sound like flame wars). Otherwise, the phrase appears a few times in relation to similiar situations.
I'm afraid I can't offer any theories in relation to it's use in Big O. Everyone has better theories on that subject.
| TubamanRH |
08-07-2003 07:49 PM |
I wish that would scroll across my CD Player screen every time i started my car
| Byranx |
08-07-2003 08:01 PM |
It would propose an interesting twist if Rosewater gets into Big Fau and a similar message scrolls across his screen but anyway...
I think it means Ye Not Guilty or those who are innocent are the ones who put God before themselves and not themselves before God. Thus, we should not play God and abuse the power of the Megadeuses for our own desires or we will be punished, for instance, lose our memory in a cataclysmic event. Our own inventions rebelling against us.
| Aculeatus |
08-07-2003 08:03 PM |
Another theory could be that "cast" refers to casting (forging, like a sword) the Megadues in the Name of God. It sorta makes since with the opening with the Megadues rising out of the lava.
| Byranx |
08-07-2003 08:07 PM |
Yes...like human forging these giant robots in God's image more like...so they in turn...replace God. But then again...that would be something guilty...err i dont know
| Schoolie |
08-07-2003 08:08 PM |
There's another discusson of this somewhere in the forums.
It's said that the writer/creator just liked the phrase "Cast in the name of God, ye not guilty," and took it from the phrase on Conan the Barbarian's sword.
There's something up with it related to spiritualism, perhaps. Big O could have been "cast" in the name of God - for higher, noble purposes. The "ye not guilty" may be referring to the pilot - Roger Smith. In other words, the pilot must be "worthy" to pilot Big O.
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Originally posted by Lady Tesser
Biblically speaking, the most notable story involved a group of townspeople attempting to stone a prostitute. My Bible stuff is kinda dusty (age does that to you, kids), but one of the men pointed out that those who are entirely without sin may cast stones in God's name (beginning to sound like flame wars). Otherwise, the phrase appears a few times in relation to similar situations. |
The Biblical reference you mentioned is in John 8:1-11. A group of teachers of the law brought a woman caught in the act of adultery to Jesus, and wanted to see what he had to say on the matter. It was a way for them to trap Jesus in a difficult situation - mercy or justice? (And where was the offending man, who was equally as guilty?)
After Jesus drew in the dirt (what, we don't know), he stood and responded by saying "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her." Then everyone went home.
Finally it was just Jesus and the woman left. He told her to go and leave her life of sin. So, he didn't condone the sin, but he also had mercy for the sinner.
It's our Sunday School lesson for the day!
| Manji |
08-08-2003 10:22 AM |
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Originally posted by TubamanRH
I wish that would scroll across my CD Player screen every time i started my car |
Depending on what type of CD player you have, you can make it say that
| The Fallen Phoenix |
08-08-2003 10:38 AM |
That would be great...
Then I would modify my stove to say, "Cast in the name of God...ye dinner is served." every time dinner is ready.
Well, that might be hard, but I probably could put a CD player in and have it scroll on that instead...
Man...that is such an awesome phrase...
Oh, and thanks for the Bible refresher Schoolie!
| hellboy19 |
08-08-2003 02:41 PM |
I agree with the people who are saying that Big O was created for noble purposes, and he was intended to have a worthy pilot. Apparently though, Big O is the only Megadeus with a pilot gifted with a conscience.
| NVWC2006 |
08-08-2003 04:11 PM |
What everyone has previously said, where the megadeus is cast, or created in the name of God is the one I think makes most sense. But there are still more ways to look at it.
You cast a fishing line.
Perhaps you are supposed to cast in the name of God, not cast IN the name of God. Is God's name Ye Not Guilty? or maybe the one who isn't guilty knows God's name?
but other than that, i think the created nobly in God's name one makes more sense.
| MaiAnaras |
08-08-2003 07:25 PM |
That's what I think too. Grammatically, it seems to make the most sense. And it sounds very knight-ish. :b Which I think is fitting.
| The Fallen Phoenix |
08-08-2003 07:28 PM |
Again, English grammar is really messed up, so I don't think we should take it literally like that.

Therefore, I don't think God's name is Ye Not Guilty.
I think the 2 best meanings have already been stated on the posts above, so I don't think I need to repeat them
again.
Repetition can get boring, after all.
But I'll quote them anyway...the first, which is likely, quoted by Aculeatus:
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| Another theory could be that "cast" refers to casting (forging, like a sword) the Megadues in the Name of God. It sorta makes since with the opening with the Megadues rising out of the lava. |
The one I subscribe to more than the first, as quoted by Schoolie:
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| There's something up with it related to spiritualism, perhaps. Big O could have been "cast" in the name of God - for higher, noble purposes. The "ye not guilty" may be referring to the pilot - Roger Smith. In other words, the pilot must be "worthy" to pilot Big O. |
| Prince-Consort Tesser |
08-09-2003 02:03 PM |
From my own researches, the phrase was quite popular as engraving on English executioner's swords in the 17th century.
This seems to lead to my and my wife's theory that the Event and the Megadeus creation were religious events; that the City of Amnesia was created by religious fanatics for some theological reason.
| mAc Chaos |
08-09-2003 03:13 PM |
Well, the reason it was on the Executioner's axes, etc, was because it meant they were not guilty for killing the person because they were carrying out God's will.
| The Big Omega |
08-09-2003 04:31 PM |
As Fallen Phoenix said, this is problem due to English grammer. We need to find out what it says in some other language, it will probably be much more clear then. I used to think that it was a password, but then Roger would need to shout out 'Ye not guilty' as the words scrolled by. Surprisingly the cut versions of Big O made more sense: Cast in the name of good Ye not guilty. A good person would not be guilty. I had considered the casting the megadeus in the name of god, it would make sense because Deus means god in latin. I think that this might be the right way to take it, remember as Norman said in episode 14, "I understand that through you it can be used as an instrument of God." It could mean that Big O was made in the name of God, or maybe Roger was made in the name of God. With this "Cast in the name of God" would mean that they made for God to use, to deliver protection upon the citizens of Paradigm city.
| ramdrumr |
08-09-2003 07:07 PM |
I find the Megadei, as weapons were to be as Gods to dominate.
Thus, Cast in the name of God(or Good, some believe God is Good), Ye not guilty, means that the Dominius of the Megadeus is not guilty because of trying to perform good by using a demi-god.
Because the Megadei are massive weapons, they can be considered demi-gods. So because the Dominus is using this weapon, as long as they don't think they are a god or are God, then they are innocent.
So, although Roger Smith may come off as butthead sometimes, he is quite practical and intelligent, and does not think of himself as a god or as God (unlike Alex Rosewater). Therefore, he is not guilty in using the Big O (no matter how much he destroys Paradigm, as long as he's doing good).
| Cecil XIX |
08-09-2003 07:23 PM |
I always thought it meant that Roger's Big O didn't go cracy during the cataclyism, and therefore is not guilty of causing all the destruction afterwords.
| Prince-Consort Tesser |
08-09-2003 11:10 PM |
The Phrase was used in executioner's weapons ... perhaps Big O is an executioner's weapon as well?
Megadei are capable of volition (even Big O moved on his own in Episode 13). Big O could be the executioner of renegade Megadei, created specifically to sanction renegade robots.
It would explain the piston-arms (A close-contact impact weapon? Virtually useless for anything but trying to overwhelm the defenses of a mecha).
| Cecil XIX |
08-10-2003 12:49 AM |
I wouldn't call them close combat weapons. I mean, they did blow through three buildings when he fought Big Duo.