Season 3 Discussion

Okay, thanks, *sigh* I wish I could see all those other animes though.

I think I have it figured out... certain people at [as] must hate Big O because they aren't intelligent enough to understand it, and as we all know... (Dumb) people hate what they can't understand. How many times as a kid did you say you hated something, were "sick of it", "couldn't stand it", etc, etc, etc... because you were frustrated in your attempts to "get it"? Someone at [as] even said it was too "cerebral". For who, I ask? Not for those of us who have spent many an hour deciphering the clues and the symbolism interwoven into the fibers of its creation! No, it must be that they same ones who exalt the glories of 15 minutes blocks of random stupidity (not that there's anything wrong with that!!!) are the loudest protesters of a manically plot driven, mind bending piece of animated literature we loving call Big O.

I'm sort of anti-season three. I mean I'd love to see it because I love Big O but I'm afraid if they actually do answer some questions the show just won't be as good anymore. Most of the fun from the show comes from trying to solve the mystery for yourself and come up with your own interpretations for things. That's mainly why I don't want a prequel as well.

I'm sure however just like season 2 the writers would come up with more questions than answers so I suppose a season 3 could be okay. Personally I was satisfied with the strange and ambiguous ending of Season 2 because to me at least it had a sense of finality with the possiblity of a sequel. It's like the ending of Akira, you know its over but you don't know how it can be over if that makes any sense at all.

It just wouldn't be the same if they made an answer page for this mystery novel.

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Originally posted by Klrrjess I think I have it figured out... certain people at [as] must hate Big O because they aren't intelligent enough to understand it, and as we all know... (Dumb) people hate what they can't understand. How many times as a kid did you say you hated something, were "sick of it", "couldn't stand it", etc, etc, etc... because you were frustrated in your attempts to "get it"? Someone at [as] even said it was too "cerebral". For who, I ask? Not for those of us who have spent many an hour deciphering the clues and the symbolism interwoven into the fibers of its creation! No, it must be that they same ones who exalt the glories of 15 minutes blocks of random stupidity (not that there's anything wrong with that!!!) are the loudest protesters of a manically plot driven, mind bending piece of animated literature we loving call Big O.

I used to do that alot as a kid, and when ever Big O was on and my dad in the same room he used to 1/2 watch it, and ask questions about it and stuff, 'cos he's smart and I think anyone with a brain and curiosity can 'like' Big O, my mum doesn't like it at all though, but that's 'cos she doesn't like the style and stuff, not because she's stupid, 'cos she's not.

I would love to see a third season, as I trust the creators to produce incredible content, as long as they are not restricted by AS folks.

Fear about the writing doesn't faze me, as the show has been consistently incredible.

I am organizing a real petition, but it is still in the planning stages. The clear cut model will serve well enough. I do honestly believe a real petition will have the power to bring a new season around.

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Originally posted by ZeaLitY I am organizing a real petition, but it is still in the planning stages. The clear cut model will serve well enough. I do honestly believe a real petition will have the power to bring a new season around.

Sounds like an interesting idea, since an actual petition would be something that could potentially get some results. When you have more information available, let us know.

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Originally posted by Klrrjess I think I have it figured out... certain people at [as] must hate Big O .......

Mike Lazzo of [AS] is known for hating many animes, especially Big O. Some people think that he threatened to quit if Big O wasn't pulled off the air.

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Mike Lazzo of [AS] is known for hating many animes, especially Big O. Some people think that he threatened to quit if Big O wasn't pulled off the air.

I knew he was crazy but threathing to quit over a TV show? wow

Still talking about S3, eh?
It's looking a little doubtful, no?

I stopped trusting [as] after they took Big O off weeknights.
Maybe I've not been following all of the facts properly,
and maybe I've been misinformed here and there,
and perhaps I'm not the Big O fan I once was, thanks
to my box set of Excel Saga, but I'm afraid my hopes of any more Big O,
beyond fan-fiction and theories, have waned exiguous.

It's been a very long time... maybe too long.

Although they did make that Trigun Maximum thingy after all this time....

Oh, great, now I'm contesting my own point....

I don't think it's futile if the creative forces behind the series are interested (which, last time I checked, I believe they are). After all, THEY are the ones with the creative juices that developed the series.


Perhaps it looks bad though, finding a financial backer after all this time. I wouldn't give up hope, yet. There still seems to be a whole host of outlets to go through to see if they have even an inkling of interest in continuing Big O, before we should call in the troops and issue a retreat.

The worst thing we can do is to give up and lose interest. Showing interest in the series is like waving money in front of the distributor - if you're willing to make them a hefty profit, they'll produce the product. I think one of the biggest issues right now with CN is that they're really not sure that there is MONEY in Big O. Our job is to convince them there is TONS of money in Big O.

I think it's good there isn't a series 3, most shows that go on for ages (like inuyashsa) end up being crappy...

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Originally posted by V.F.D I think it's good there isn't a series 3, most shows that go on for ages (like inuyashsa) end up being crappy...

I know what you mean. One thing I'm really scared/worried about is the creation of a season 3 and the 'love triangle' being concluded, that ALLWAYS ruins a program (the reason I stopped watching the old X-Men).

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Although they did make that Trigun Maximum thingy after all this time....

actually Trigun and Trigun Maxiumum are the same thing, Nightow had to change the name when he switched publishers.

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Originally posted by V.F.D I think it's good there isn't a series 3, most shows that go on for ages (like inuyashsa) end up being crappy...

Every show runs out of ideas eventually and needs to be put to rest. But Big O isn't there yet!

It's not clear to me that Inuyasha ever had even ONE season's worth of character and plot development. I like the characters well enough, but it's as if the authors vowed that they could never change or grow significantly. It's too bad.

As far as character/plot development goes, Scooby-Doo is at one end of the spectrum and shows that tell a single complete story over 13 or 26 episodes are at the other -- Future Boy Conan is my favorite example of the second type. Any episodes of Conan after episode 26 would really be a whole new show.

Cardcaptor Sakura and Big O are somewhere in the middle. They tell a specific story, but there's nothing to keep the adventure from continuing from where the last one left off.

Just wondering (I know it's been wondered before) how would they continue Big O?

My fravriote idea is re-doing the entire season 1 and 2 but differently, e.g.

1.Paradigm 01: Roger knows Dorothy (the origional?) and their relationship is at it's peak. No Angel here. She saves him and he sucsessfully negotiates with the Director

2.Paradigm 02: Roger vaguely remembers Dorothy (dreams?) and doesn't get to know Dorothy as he is scared of these memories he can't place. He drowns and can't negotiate. Angel might be here but can't save him.

3.Paradigm 03: Roger has memories of Dorothy, but they are so slight and far between, he doesn't really notice them and gets to know her, but their relationship is never reallly good. Still Roger is able to sucsessfully negotiate with the director. Angel is the director? (This Paradigm)

So... Any progress in that petition?

I haven't watched Big O in ages. But I've been thinking about the show non-stop for about two months now.

I agree that every show, if allowed to go on long enough, will need to be put out to pasture at some point. That point is when all the fun plot twists and developments have played out and the troubled heroes have found their place in their respective wonked out worlds. But Big O isn't at that point yet. 'The Show Must Go on' isn't a phrase thrown out into the night as the doors closel; it's a prohetcy, a battlecry, given not in a the drowzy dying hours of the party but said with a lop-sided grin and a raising of glasses. This is the beginning, people. The party has not started.

I can't even think about Big O without feeling a little pang in my heart. We've been left in limbo here. Check out some of the older threads in here. The ones where we try to figure out what happen or what paradigm is or what Roger is or why Dorothy seemed to know so much or what the Bigs actually are. Check the threads that Zola, ACT, Tony, and all the veterans participated in. You won't find answers in those threads. Only theories. Only what-ifs.

I don't know. It's just depressing.


muchlove
-Dork

I try to remain on the optimistic side when it comes to the 3rd season of Big O.I figure if it took about 10 years for the Tenchi OAV to finally get a 2nd season,then another season of Big O shouldn't be COMPLETELY out of the question.On the bright side,the creators of the series certainly have a lot of time to refine the storyline if a Season 3 is ever produced.


Personally,I sort of think that Big O is the Matrix of anime at the moment.Both are these multi-layered,complex,action-oriented stories that not everybody will like.And I definitely believe both will be considered very under-rated in the future.(well,the Matrix sequels that is.)



BTW,has anyone here watched the movie Dark City? It's one of my Top 5 favorite movies of all time.I'd say what possible similarity Big O and Dark City could share,but then I'd be giving away a huge twist in the movie.

I definitely want a third season. I don't care if all those EVA and Blue Gender fans think I can't be satisfied. I know about 20 anime fans at my highschool who might be willing to sign the petition. Fans were able to bring Big O back for a second season. If we try hard enough, we might be able to do it agian.

It think it is important to remember that a new season of Big O counts on more than just how many people support it. They have to have legitimate business reasons, available resources and the economic climate.

I've always had misgivings about more Big O. I want the questions answered, but there could be a steep price to pay for it. Making a new season could have some undesirable results, such as a drastic change of voice cast or animation by a studio we do not care for *coughgonzocough*.

But, time will tell, as it is wont to do.