Season 3 Discussion

Hmm... Maybe just a season in general based around the baddies? maybe just called The Bigs?

Sounds like an idea I had b4... In Bebop, follow Vicious around instead of Spike, and see what kind of crazy adventures he has...

I'd like to see more in depth of how Schwarzwald found Big Duo, tho

The Big Fau will be about how Big Fau felt being split into 3 and put into 3 other megaduces.

And how the operation to put him back together went. Kind of like Nip/Tuck

I AGREE WITH ACT.

I do think the robots are necessary, and I don't think all battles are lame. Act 24 had a great battle. But the show in general, and the battles, would benefit if there were a lot less time spent on the Bigs.

Given ACT's position, I'm surprised he's written robot battles into the first four episodes of season three (haven't read the rest...I'm getting to it though).

The battles should be climactic. Lord of the Rings is certainly about the Ring, but the Ring isn't in every shot. In the books, the Ring doesn't even show up for half of Two Towers and RotK. It's often in the background. The show can be ABOUT the megadeii without them showing up every thirty minutes. What kind of a negotiator is Roger if he can't pull back on the robot every once in awhile?

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Originally posted by NVWC2006 Hmm... Maybe just a season in general based around the baddies? maybe just called The Bigs?

How about Big Trouble?

Pygmalion

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Originally posted by Pygmalion quote: Originally posted by NVWC2006 Hmm... Maybe just a season in general based around the baddies? maybe just called The Bigs? How about Big Trouble? Pygmalion

BAD PUN x____X;;;;;

DAMN IT!!! *smashes binoculars on the ground*

I still say Season3 should be a Prequil (qual?) ... Like show us what actually lead to the first "Event" That would be friggin awesome It would take up 2 seasons...so we'd have an excuse to make the 3rd and 4th seasons of "BigO - Unearthed Memories" cOOL, NO?

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Originally posted by evanASF27 quote: Originally posted by Pygmalion quote: Originally posted by NVWC2006 Hmm... Maybe just a season in general based around the baddies? maybe just called The Bigs? How about Big Trouble? Pygmalion BAD PUN x____X;;;;; DAMN IT!!! *smashes binoculars on the ground* I still say Season3 should be a Prequil (qual?) ... Like show us what actually lead to the first "Event" That would be friggin awesome It would take up 2 seasons...so we'd have an excuse to make the 3rd and 4th seasons of "BigO - Unearthed Memories" cOOL, NO?

"Unearthed Memories" sounds a bit too much like a fanfiction. It should be something amazing. Like "The Adventures of Alan Gabriel" or, "Big O: An Erotic Thriller".

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Originally posted by phreekdragon Given ACT's position, I'm surprised he's written robot battles into the first four episodes of season three (haven't read the rest...I'm getting to it though).

I don't mind robot battles as such. I just don't like the lame ones.

I think the show deffinatly needs the Bigs. They do add something to the show but after that huge battle royale last season I could deffinatly use a break. Bring on the plot!

I can't believe you used Alex Rosewater to back-up your oppinion, Rekkoha. He's a narcissistic pompous idiot whose delusions of god-hood helped destroy Paradigm.

Does anyone remember Cartagia from Babylon 5? He's kinda like that @_@



-dork

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Originally posted by Dork I think the show deffinatly needs the Bigs. They do add something to the show but after that huge battle royale last season I could deffinatly use a break. Bring on the plot!

Battle royale is great. I love it. But it's not so "royale" if there's a battle royale every 10 minutes. Then it just looks stupid.

ACT, thus far, the battles I've read about in season 3 are very good.

I don't like having battles every episode, but you know they're going to do it again in season 3. I just hope they can find a GOOD way to work it into the plot.

Wouldn't Winter Night Phantom have been so much better without the battle? That's my main example.

Alex Rosewater's quite hateable. They did a good job with that villain.

Wow... lots of discussion. I think it's more fun not to know exactly why Paradigm city exists... Any explanation they give would probably be a tired rehash of something we've seen a million times before, and the show's already very anti-cliche.

Think about it: An apocalyptic world war leading to the destruction of the world, an opressive government trying to restore the technology of the ancients as a way to opress the people, unethical genetic experiments that reduce people to cogs in some machiavellian game played by shadowy figures...

We've seen all those things a million times in anime, and I'm kind of tired of them. It's entertaining to see all those cliches turned on their ears, and if you explain the what and why of Paradigm you risk falling inot the cliches that you're skewering.

All that being said, I'd still like to see another season of Big O. The whole Roger-Dorothy-Angel love triangle was never really resolved, which gnaws at me much, MUCH more then the fact that Paradigm city doesn't make much sense.

EDIT: Oh, and I may be reading things wrong, but I kind of thought that the point of the series was that people are not defined by their alligence to a country, or faction, and that reading history as a series of prophecies is folly. You know, the Union never did really exist, it was all just special effects. People are not ruled by destiny, or by the mistakes of their own past, but can build their own lives. I don't know if that made sense, but my point is that going deep into the real reasons for paradigm city would be contradictory to the message.

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Originally posted by A Clockwork Tomato quote: Originally posted by phreekdragon Given ACT's position, I'm surprised he's written robot battles into the first four episodes of season three (haven't read the rest...I'm getting to it though). I don't mind robot battles as such. I just don't like the lame ones.

The lamest being the one with the construction robot run amuck. There was no real need to bring out Big O in that situation, Personally I would've liked to see Roger join Norman in the Griffon and have them take out the thing together. Between Norman's tricked out bike and the car, they could've taken that thing down.

Waffle Man: About your edit. Yes, that is one point of the series, but not the only point.

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Originally posted by Wingnut The lamest being the one with the construction robot run amuck. There was no real need to bring out Big O in that situation, Personally I would've liked to see Roger join Norman in the Griffon and have them take out the thing together. Between Norman's tricked out bike and the car, they could've taken that thing down. .

That WOULD have been cool! I can just see it.

That would be pretty cool. Yeah.. they could be all tricked out with rockets and missles and stuff... yeah, that would eb awesome. We should find a way to make the guys at AS to listen to what type of shows that we want to see. There had got to be a way to do this.

Though I'm usually not in favor of lame spinoff ideas.

This one could actually be very interesting since Schwarzwald is a very intersting characther and we know so little about what he found and what happend to him.

What did he discover? Now that he is dead, will we ever know?

But I think they could just work schwarzwalds story into any potential 3rd season.

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Originally posted by Zopwx2 Though I'm usually not in favor of lame spinoff ideas. This one could actually be very interesting since Schwarzwald is a very intersting characther and we know so little about what he found and what happend to him. What did he discover? Now that he is dead, will we ever know? But I think they could just work schwarzwalds story into any potential 3rd season.

Well, it's my belief that he might still be alive... since hey, we never saw the body, and all we have is Angel's word to go on.

Actually we DID see Schwarzwald's body. Act 17, sometime around the same scene where Angel mentions Seebach is dead, we see it in lying stiff in the desert. The eyes had gone pupiless, which is a generic anime technique for showing death. Another would be when their hair or head covering covers the forehead, shadowing the eyes (seen frequently in Inuyasha, and also used to show drama or strong resolution)

In Big O, Schwarzwald has indeed died, but then again so has Roger, as we see in some past existence he had died (as in the flashbacks of the dead Major Smith), but he goes on living. So I assume that every reset all the actors are brought back to full functionality to continue the story properly.

But if you really want to see more about Schwarzy, write a fanfic, that's what they're for.

No, I thought all we see is just a bandage waving in the deseret.

I don't think I ever saw a body.

I'm pretty sure what Schwarzwald found wasn't anything special or revealing. My reason for this is Act 24 or maybe 25. He was talking about the truth, and before declaring what had been found, Schwarzwald started to laugh as if there was some deep irony in what was discovered. So perhaps all the memories were nothing more than a fabrication giving the main characters something to live for and act on. When in fact what they were looking for and striving to understand never existed in the first place. Oh well, I'm too tired to think or work in a normal state at this moment...and it shows.

Seeing things from crispy's point of view would be pretty anti-climatic in my opinion.

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Originally posted by Bismarck I'm pretty sure what Schwarzwald found wasn't anything special or revealing. My reason for this is Act 24 or maybe 25. He was talking about the truth, and before declaring what had been found, Schwarzwald started to laugh as if there was some deep irony in what was discovered. So perhaps all the memories were nothing more than a fabrication giving the main characters something to live for and act on. When in fact what they were looking for and striving to understand never existed in the first place. Oh well, I'm too tired to think or work in a normal state at this moment...and it shows. Seeing things from crispy's point of view would be pretty anti-climatic in my opinion.

Well, just because he laughed, that might not necessarily be the case... anyway, I think it might be interesting for 10 episodes or so.

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Originally posted by Pygmalion quote: Originally posted by NVWC2006 Hmm... Maybe just a season in general based around the baddies? maybe just called The Bigs? How about Big Trouble? Pygmalion

Good book, bad movie. Dave Barry is cool, Tim Allen ruins everything.

It would be neat to see some shwartzie backstory, but it wouldn'e be the same unless Alan Gabriel became his "Dorothy."

But it couldn't be called Big Duo. It has too many syllables, and doesn't fit the Flash Gordon theme.