Robots can feel (from Hot Robot Action)

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Originally posted by Rekkoha *sigh* I see my arguments have been defeated. Oh well ) I suppose one could say that Dorothy is indeed a living thing, and that Roger may have whatever type of relationship towards her that he desires. However, it still does not change the fact that Dorothy is a man-made and therefore mechanical device. And now we will have to cover the subject of Man creating a thing upon which he may, intentionally or otherwise, bestow life. But the answer simple... Man provides the body, God provides the soul. The two halves of the sphere of creation are quite prominent in Paradigm, unlike in our own reality in which only God has the power to create sentient beings. And so I rest my case: - Androids can and do operate under a free will of as yet mysterious origin, but presumably from some kind of soul - Megadeuses, while decidedly robotic in behavior harbor some form of intellect and self-government - And some people actually find Dorothy, a grave and bleak android girl who looks as though she has attended every funeral Paradigm has ever known, to be sexually attractive. Another unsolved mystery to me....

LOL!

That was a very graceful defeat speech

And there's no accounting for taste....

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Originally posted by Rekkoha And you should know... if any of this sexy stuff had appeared on Big O, I probably would have stopped watching it long ago

Oh, it's there, all right. Some people just don't pick up on it. It's one of the major themes in the show, starting when Roger can't keep his eyes of Dorothy in Act 1, before he learns she's an android, and his later rudeness to her when he meets her again in his Mansion. We see it again when Dorothy rips up Angel's business card in ELECTRIC CITY (Act 3). The romance thread is woven through the entire show, and there can be no doubt that Dorothy has something more than a hearty handshake in mind.

I keep having to quote the following exchange from THE GREATEST VILLAIN:

BECK: And is Dorothy ... Roger's lover? [Laughs]

ROGER: That's preposterous!

DOROTHY: Why, Roger? You are so cruel! Why is it preposterous?

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Originally posted by Rekkoha - And some people actually find Dorothy, a grave and bleak android girl who looks as though she has attended every funeral Paradigm has ever known, to be sexually attractive. Another unsolved mystery to me....

It is fascinating on what perception and personal preferences can cause a person to like and dislike. Some people are turned on by blondes, while others prefer redheads. Some like others tall, while people are wild for petite. Some like other seductive, while other prefer the straight forward.

As a Dorothy advocate, I can proudly say that she is the cats meow. There is no mystery behind; For me, it's really simple, she's has a kind personality (Day of the Advent), strong (The Greatest Villian) and caring (Act 26). Also, I am a sucker for artist and musicians. Of course, everybody has their own reasons for liking or disliking Dorothy (as well as everybody else). It's up to you.

Thank you for your compliment on my graceful defeat speech

You know, when you say there is a romantic thread throughout Big O, forgive me but I never picked up on it.

Just about the only sexy thing I noticed on on the entire series was Act... what was it? The one where Roger and Angel are trapped in the underwater structure.
The only sexy thing I have ever picked up on was the moment in which Roger summons Big O, the building is shaking up and Angel is calling Roger a lunatic; in this frame Angel had her hands on the door handles and is in a somewhat *ahem* "backed up" pose... and her curves have multiplied in quality by about 3x for that one scene
That was, for me, the only sexy Big O moment. What with her wild hair and the black outfit, a real turn on for me... for about the 3.2 seconds that scene lasted....

Anyway, I guess I have my preferences and you have yours...
We all have our theories, and no argument I can make will change that.
Until Hajime Yatate dumps the actual intention of Big O on us

Rekkoha, I think that you are missing a distinction here. We are not saying that there is a "sexy" thread running through Big O involving Roger and Dorothy, but rather a romantic one. Romance can be completely chaste, and by some standards, is at its most pure when it is. (I personally disagree, but thats another discuassion.)

What we are trying to say here, is that Dorothy and Roger have a strong emotional connection, and there is a great deal of romantic tension in their relationship. The evidence and instances of this were already posted above.

Angel on the other hand , is the vampy seductress, the physical passion in counterpoint to Dorothy's more ethereal romanticism. It is the interplay and conflict between these two extremes, and two women, and Roger's often conflicted feelings for and reactions to them, that form a big chunk of the comentary (in my opinion, to be fair) of the series.

It's the conflict between Man the noble, remote, principled thinker, and Man the passionate, impulsive, vital animal. a conflict we all experience in our own way in our own time, to some greater or lesser extent.

note that I use "Man" to represent all Humanity, not to exclude the female gender. my 2 cents. your milage may vary.

(edit: spelling and grammar)

Ahhhh I see )
I have always noticed the romantic insinuations but then why are there so many people trying to read sexual content into the story? It seem to be rather popular.

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Originally posted by Rekkoha Ahhhh I see ) I have always noticed the romantic insinuations but then why are there so many people trying to read sexual content into the story? It seem to be rather popular.

Human nature. I personally tend to agree with Advinius, that romance is inseparable from physical expression, but I am sure there are plenty who disagree with that.

I don't think it's so much that people see sexual content in the story as they want some. Not something explicit that would rate an NC17 rating, but I think that most would be very happy to see Roger and Dorothy kiss, or see some PG indication that the romance has blossomed to a full, adult relationship (like them waking up in the morning or something).

For me, that has a lot to do with maturing tastes as well. When I was in my teens, I adored the unrequited love/unconsumated love types of stories. In most cases now, I find them shallow and annoying because they are not reflective of real life.

That was one of the things I loved about Babylon V--people changed. They moved into and out of relationships, just like real people do. The story line with Marcus was the sole exception, but that didn't bother me because there are always a few people that choose to remain uninvolved or celibate. The mix was reflective of reality, that most people do get involved and a few don't. It drives me nuts when the main characters are kept artificially single and when every time such a main character gets involved a cliche is invoked to justify a separation.

This is the main thing that turns me off about most Super Hero comics --the "I walk alone" schtick gets darned boring.

Just my two cents

Marcus was a member of a group of what amounts to Warrior Monks, though. I'm willing to let him slide.