the big duo inferno :warning spoilers

i want to start by asking why they rebuilt his head

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in episode 17 they showed the head rebiult then in episode 24 the head was "inferno"

why?

Spoiler tags, haven't seen those in quite awhile

I'm willing to bet it was just an animators goof. But it could have been because of Alan's retrofitting. If you compare the "Wired" Alan's face with Inferno's, they do have a few similarites, most notably the one eye

Maybe it was just an animation goof or a miscommunication. Or maybe they wanted to keep the new look of Big Duo a secret until he was revealed in Twisted Memories.

If I had to take a swing at it - and try to come-up with a reason that had actually taken place within the saga off camera - I'd guess that at one point, it was decided that the original head was too damaged to piece back together sucessfully, and it was seen as the opportunity to upgrade.

For me, the feeling I get when watching #12 and #24 is that I'm seeing two different Megadeuses in action.

It appeared they rebuilt the entire base of Big Duo, and then added everything on/in. I think that a key thing would be if in Leviathan are the gattling missles there?

Here's Big Duo being fixed during Leviathan.

It looks to me like the Gatling missiles aren't in there at this point. The hole on Big Duo's right side doesn't look like the missile launcher is there.

It's also interesting, Duo still has his original hands there, rather than the new claw-like ones. That's REALLY weird, considering that his entire right arm was destroyed in Act 12. It's like they went to the trouble of entirely rebuilding Duo as it was, then rebuilt the arms and head after they were done just for the hell of it.

Duo Rox...

I was wondering about the hand thing too I also thought of one more thing... Duo's fins on his arms... Those were changed too

-B.c.

It's pretty obvious that they didn't just restore it but rebuilt it entirely. The weapons and abilities of it were probably designed to fit Alan's taste(flames being painted on arms, spiked chains coming where Alan's retractable hand is, huge eye where Alan's eye was shot). Alan probably had to make many changes on Big Duo just to be able to pilot it since Big Duo didn't even want him as it's pilot in the first place.

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Big Duo probably got really pissed for Alan using him like this to kill Roger and his core memory had relayed control to it's former(deceased) pilot Schwarzwald, who then killed him.

The alterations to the fins and hands wouldn't take that much time or be that difficult. The hands were likely just swapped for different ones and the fins are simply solid metal with no manuvering surfaces attached so adding or removeing parts of the fins would be simply a matter of welding/cutting and then a new paint job.
What gets most people is the head itself. It appears that the left eye was covered by an augmention device place simply on top of the existing eye.
The gattling missles are not present on the inferno version. (You can see right trough the holes) So even if they are there in Leviathan, they were removed prior to Twisted Memories.

I believe that the animators screwed up when they decided to rebuild Big Duo, because they put a lot of extra attcachments that were blown away a while back when Roger fights Big Duo.

i dont think it was a screw up, they probably just hadn't decided on what inferno would look like and wanted it to be a cool surprise when they did settle on a design.

Oh, there are any number of rationalizations we can make up for anything. Just off the top of my head:

Each of Big Duo's eye-beams requires it's own power relay circuit. One of these was irreparably damaged when Roger crushed the head, however, forcing Paradigm to construct a replacement. Unfortunately, this turned out to be a piece of pre-Event technology that just couldn't be duplicated properly, and the replacement circuit burned out repeatedly. To compensate, the damaged eye-beam mechanism was removed entirely. Using parts from the damaged circuit, the remaining one was modified to accept a higher energy input. That strange and distinctive "evil eye" was actually a casing for the heavier lens and cooling mechanism required to accomodate the more powerful beam.

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Originally posted by Executor Oh, there are any number of rationalizations we can make up for anything. Just off the top of my head: Each of Big Duo's eye-beams requires it's own power relay circuit. One of these was irreparably damaged when Roger crushed the head, however, forcing Paradigm to construct a replacement. Unfortunately, this turned out to be a piece of pre-Event technology that just couldn't be duplicated properly, and the replacement circuit burned out repeatedly. To compensate, the damaged eye-beam mechanism was removed entirely. Using parts from the damaged circuit, the remaining one was modified to accept a higher energy input. That strange and distinctive "evil eye" was actually a casing for the heavier lens and cooling mechanism required to accomodate the more powerful beam.

I thought it was obvious that the eye was being used as a camera for Alan. He did say that he had become one with the machine and it was his new body. The huge eye was put in so Alan could see what Duo Inferno saw. He did have a wire plugged into his eye as well.

I think I am satisfied with Alan just changed it to suit his personal fighting style reason for the change. But why did they paint it pink? The main body is a much lighter red then orginally, I swear it is pink.

After having the crap kicked out of it they probably wanted to "polish" it up with a new paintjob, and Alan being the flamboyant type he is, got a more distinctive coat on it.

Besides the other changes listed, Inferno had those ventilated fold-out head fins, while the original's were solid and stationary.

Paradigm HQ under Alex rebuilt the original Duo head to toe.(actually, as soon as act12 really ends, the reconstruction is underway, as u see in R-D) And after duo was completely rebuilt, he would not work at a fully operational pace. So they scrapped him down, and but in the new face/hands, not to mention the flames design on his arms.

It does appear that Big Duo Inferno was a rebuild prompted by Alan and in part because it likely wouldn't move without it's proper pilot (Schwartsvald apparently).

The Real Changes from Big Duo to Big Duo Inferno was the following.
- Removal of the Chest Missile Launchers
- New Propellors.
- Inclusion of second set of Hand Claws.
- Re modeled jet engines (the new ones are narrowed in the middle).
- New Left Eye
- New Head Cowling, the head now tilts and is partially covered in flight.
- New Paint.

his head was changed becuase probobly becuase the first one is completely detroyed at the end of enemy is another big

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Originally posted by Lupin IV Paradigm HQ under Alex rebuilt the original Duo head to toe.(actually, as soon as act12 really ends, the reconstruction is underway, as u see in R-D) And after duo was completely rebuilt, he would not work at a fully operational pace. So they scrapped him down, and but in the new face/hands, not to mention the flames design on his arms.

Hmm..so maybe when we see Duo in Leviathan he's not still being rebuilt from the fight in Act 12, he's being modified into Duo Inferno. That would explain how he went from looking like a half-built Duo to Duo Inferno so fast.