Sky Captain and the Wolrd of Tomorrow!

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Originally posted by Dork 2.) I knew someone was going to create a mostly CGI movie eventually, but that still doesn't mean I'm happy about it. It seems so fake. There is nothing on the sets. I feel so bad for the poor actors who had to play againist nothing. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure it's probably plenty of fun for the actors. A nice little exercise, but as a viewer I don't think I could watch this thing without a look of complete disgust and horror on my face. There's just something wrong about it.

Yeah, I felt exactly the same way about the new Star Wars movies. I think it would be cheaper to paint a friggin' piece of plywood than make a complicated CG set.

I went with my grandmother to see Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow and it was surprisingly good. The acting was really good, and the sephia tinted picture was actually pretty good. However, the CGI was a little sub-par at times, almost mediocre, but it was tolerable. And even though there are some resembelances to Big O, there are other things that make it completely different. I found it to be more like Last Exile.

I didn't want to see at first either given all the bashing of the film before it even hit theaters, but now I'm glad I did. It isn't the best film I've seen, but I still highly recommend it.

from what I saw on the Commercial
I don't think that move is good at all , I mean it seems alright
but it just doesn't look good that you have to Real Actors
on a CGI Environment,And that's how the whole concept of
the movie is.But the City has a little resemblence on the Big O
including the Giant Robot's because the Movie takes place
in a 1940's look of the city but in a Futuristic way.

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Originally posted by GAT-X105 quote: Originally posted by Dork 2.) I knew someone was going to create a mostly CGI movie eventually, but that still doesn't mean I'm happy about it. It seems so fake. There is nothing on the sets. I feel so bad for the poor actors who had to play againist nothing. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure it's probably plenty of fun for the actors. A nice little exercise, but as a viewer I don't think I could watch this thing without a look of complete disgust and horror on my face. There's just something wrong about it. Yeah, I felt exactly the same way about the new Star Wars movies. I think it would be cheaper to paint a friggin' piece of plywood than make a complicated CG set.

Exactly why I love LotR...while they did use blue screens, they also made the world quite believable for their actors. If you have any of the Extended Editions, I suggest you watch the interviews; it becomes apparent they didn't rely on entirely on CGI, but instead used it to supplement the films and strengthen them.

While the acting in Star Wars was always far from perfect (Return of the Jedi may be an exception...and in fact Han Solo's character on the whole, but that's all...) George Lucas' recent obsession with CGI hasn't really helped the situation at all.

Eventually, when the flames of studios' torrid, passionate romance with CGI cool down, they may learn how to properly utilize it. I suggest they look to LotR.

I might see it this weekend.... to pull a mystery science theatre with my buddies...

I totally hate CGI, the new star wars movies are crap, and this movie will give "the big o" a bad name, check back with me on monday to see my opinion after I see the movie.

It seems this belongs more in the movie forum now... so I moved it

Not to start flaming, but have any of you ever heard the adage "You should never judge a book by it's cover?" There is almost no point in bashing something you have never seen, or because of what others have said. There are better things in Sky Captain that make up for the sub-par CGI, and to heck with the Big O relations that almost make little to NO sense.

If you ask me, all the posts up to this point were speculation and nothing more. If you've actually seen the movie and ignored all the reviews and other crap before the movie came out, then you would see the movie completely objectively and with an open mind and you'd realize that it's actually pretty damn good. I have to say, this is one of my favorite movies that I've seen in a long while and I enjoyed every minute of it. The whole sepia-tone/pseudo black and white film noir look was brilliant and you've never seen anything quite like this film, in live-action. The movie's a lot of fun and it even had a good sense of humor. However, not saying the story is the most original, but the mindblowing visuals and style of the film will more than makeup for it. This movie most reminded me of the Indiana Jones movies and Flash Gordo also, and I hope it spawns a whole franchise like that as that would rule, but it borrowed from a lot of influences and it really wears those influences out on its sleeve, but it's not trying to hide it. The creators have mentioned this is supposed to be like a throwback to those old black and white b-movies and old comics of the 40's and 50's. Just give the movie a chance and then say what you think about it. Otherwise, I can guarantee you'll enjoy it, or at least be somewhat amused.

Me and my brother (also a Big O fan) went to see this movie. Besides hitting each other every time there was something that even vaguely resembled the Big O, we loved it. Probably not only the first PG rated movie I've gone to see in a long time, but also the first PG rated movie I really enjoyed in a long time. A lot better than most of the other crap that's out these days

This movie RULED.
I kept thinking "this is what people in the 1920s thought the 1960s would be like"

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Originally posted by GAT-X105 This movie RULED. I kept thinking "this is what people in the 1920s thought the 1960s would be like"

I saw this movie today and it was exactly what I thought it would be: Lame.

Not as bad as League of Extroidnary Gentelman, but still not that good.

I can't stand it when people make somthing that could have been cool intentionally cheesy in order to add "charm" or "nostalgia" or somthing.

Definately a kid movie.

P.S.

This is one of the reasons I think a live action big o movie would suck immensely if not retooled significantly.

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Originally posted by Zopwx2 quote: Originally posted by GAT-X105 This movie RULED. I kept thinking "this is what people in the 1920s thought the 1960s would be like" I can't stand it when people make somthing that could have been cool intentionally cheesy in order to add "charm" or "nostalgia" or somthing.

I think you've just described what I hated about it. My other complaint was just because it's a "retro movie" doesn't mean the plot has to be paper-thin.

(Plus, if you're going to make everything CGI, here's a tip: don't suddenly make crappier CGI work towards the end of the movie, it makes you look lazy.)

Um, I really enjoyed it. lol. It had that BIG-Oish feeling. Sure, it was corny, cause it's super retro, but the industrial/dark/fantastical feel of the retro is kinda cool. I mean, it was supposed to be corny/overblown in a sense, but still carry a feeling of seriousness too--radio drama/elizabethen drama style. I knew there would be tons of CG, so I wasn't bothered by it and thought with the 'old-fashioned' light filter they used, it made things blend fairly well.

It made me realize how much more creative older thinkers were, even if the ideas were sorta-to-really corny. It's a lot more 'out there' than a lot of the ideas you see in movies/etc today--hard to believe that's the vision of the world we were supposed to be living in by now, heh.

A great movie for total escapism and adventure. I give it points for a flat out fun movie.--MILLION, TRILLION TIMES better than that HORRIBLE LXG movie. There was actually good 'cinematography' here...LXG, horrible, the camera shaking all around, etc--couldn't see a darn thing in The League of Extrodinary Gentlemen. This was jut right, just what I expected. Just enough plot to keep it interesting, with lots of character/class/mood, and a fun romp.

Makes me wonder though, where IS the source material from??? I could see all sorts of source material it and BIG-O shared like Metropolis and film noir... and Sky Captain seemed to use a lot of radio drama-type themes--war of the worlds, buck rogers,flash gordon...BUT WHERE THE HECK do the giant robots marching, flying in formation, with the cops making their stand with machine guns behind cars, etc come from? That was almost exactly a mirror of BIG-O!! There were a lot of similarities and I wonder, is that an old concept too?...I can't think of what 30s-50s movie it would relate to. Maybe The Day the World Stood Still or something? Does anyone know, cause those sequences made me think of BIG-O exactly. Could this have stolen from BIG-O's vision? And the floating Sky base...reminded me heavily of the anime LAst Exile. Where is the source material...retro, or anime's take on retro?

...and with that, in the Season 3 discussion, I'm going to bring up a point. 'later.

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Originally posted by The Big Ian I think you've just described what I hated about it. My other complaint was just because it's a "retro movie" doesn't mean the plot has to be paper-thin.

Well, I think you watched the movie with the wrong mindset. The movie is an homage to the shows and movies of the past when the stories were just tales of good vs. evil without any philosophy or deep motivations involved. Sky Captain captures the campy feel of those old shows perfectly.

I loved the movie. The most standout part of it is just how beautiful it looks. Sure, you can be a critic of the all-CGI style, but you can't deny that the movie looks absolutely amazing in motion. The dark, shadowy New York at the beginning of the movie just looks exceptional. It's easily one of, if not the, best looking movie I have seen in the past few years.

I liked the smart sense of humor. And the giant robots. I loved those giant robots. It's kind of ludicrous to suggest that the movie stole aspects from Big O, though, since Big O borrowed aspects from the old shows and movies that Sky Captain is based upon. Both properties seem to have similar directions by placing crazy, implausible technologies in an archaic world.

Remember also that Sky Captain has been in production for like six years now. It's not exactly like they just came up with the idea recently. I highly doubt that the director said "Hey! There's this Big O anime! Let's steal it's vision!" The similarities seem merely superficial to me.

I remember seeing a really, really, REALLY old Superman cartoon, from like the 20s or 30s. It had a fleet of flying robots whose arms turned into wings.

Except these robots were used to rob banks, not kill things.

Yeah... I remember that Superman cartoon. It was pretty cool, especially technical for its day...even for this day perhaps. (wonder who animated it--'them' actually, I think there were a series of shorts).

...Maybe the standoff behind police cars with machine guns blazing being similar to BIG-O is a coincidence?

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Originally posted by Paradigm Dog ...Maybe the standoff behind police cars with machine guns blazing being similar to BIG-O is a coincidence?

I think I remember that being in the same cartoon, too.

I saw it today, and I liked it a lot. My mother and sister were extremely bored, but I really liked it, even if it was kind of predictable...

The only part that reminded me of Big O was when the giant robots were flying in the sky.

Penny... was that her name? The blond.... she was so stupid it was funny. XP

And i thought the CGI looked great.

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Originally posted by Redd Penny... was that her name? The blond.... she was so stupid it was funny. XP

I believe her name was Polly.

Anyway, just saw the movie today, and it was pretty good for the most part. The only part that reminded me of the Big O was the giant robots in the beginning part of the movie. Also, for some reason, I seem to be reminded of Last Exile when I saw this movie. Perhaps it was because of the flying battles and the ships and the such. The CG looked very nice, in my opinion. The "old movie" style worked out pretty well for the most part.

It was a bit predictable at times, but then again, most old movies of its style are, huh? All in all, it was a good movie.

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Originally posted by Paradigm Dog Yeah... I remember that Superman cartoon. It was pretty cool, especially technical for its day...even for this day perhaps. (wonder who animated it--'them' actually, I think there were a series of shorts).

That's the Superman series of movie shorts by Max and Dave Fleischer. The episode with the flying robot is called "The Mechanical Monsters." I think Hayao Miyazaki was inspired by them when he did the Lupin III episode with the flying robot jewel thief, and later with his fighting and flying robots in Laputa.

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