Big O Repeats: Week 4, Episodes 13-16 Discussion

In retrospect (after Acts 25 and 26), it would seem that the "satellite" could actually represent something else...

...But its trajectory doesn't fit with the rest of them as it was parabolic-like in Day of the Advent, more like a crashing meteor. Still, if you freeze the frame(s) just as Big O is giving it a fistful of whoop ass, that doesn't look like a "satellite" (contemporary or otherwise) to me...

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Originally posted by Mega Dominus ...But its trajectory doesn't fit with the rest of them as it was parabolic-like in Day of the Advent, more like a crashing meteor. Still, if you freeze the frame(s) just as Big O is giving it a fistful of whoop ass, that doesn't look like a "satellite" (contemporary or otherwise) to me...

Satellites are pretty much big tin cans in space with flimsy bits like solar arrays that would burn off really quickly once they hit the atmosphere. If you had a technology that made big solar arrays unnecessary, then the shape would be back to big tin cans in space, which is pretty much what the "Angel" looked like.

Back in the dinosaur age, my dad worked on some satellites that had their solar cells glued to the outside of the satellite casing itself -- no big flat arrays. These satellites were cubes, spheres, or cylinders -- very boring looking.

I have some old NASA books with pictures of said satalites. That particular type of design was used when sats could only be launched by rocket and not taken for a ride by the shuttle.
Narsham. Dorothy simply broke the seals that had developed over time. (likely rust or something similar) Once the seal was broken the door could be opened by anyone.

YZEtc: Wait until Act 20: Stripes.

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Angel has her moment(s) with Roger then, and not in a life or death situation.

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Originally posted by Wingnut Narsham. Dorothy simply broke the seals that had developed over time. (likely rust or something similar) Once the seal was broken the door could be opened by anyone.

[Rant] How is it that the door has shut long enough to corrode shut, the house has been abandoned for a really long time, yet the elevator works perfectly? Sometimes I think the writers treat technology like magic; it's there, so it works perfectly.

And while I'm ranting, I take exception to Dorothy's technique for steeling a knife (the knife should slide perpendicular to the steel). Unless she wanted to take the edge off.[/Rant]

Pygmalion

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From Pygmalion And while I'm ranting, I take exception to Dorothy's technique for steeling a knife (the knife should slide perpendicular to the steel). Unless she wanted to take the edge off.

She's still new to this emotional stuff:
I think that she's getting ready for the next time Roger won't even give her the time of day while seated at the breakfast table.

The text on the bit o' satelite that Alex has is Russian...

Oh, and technology is magic. There isn't any other way to explain how the white box in my kitchen keeps things so cold.

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Originally posted by Pygmalion quote: Originally posted by YZEtc And I'm going to need some help in figuring-out exactly what it was that Jim McGowen wanted Roger to negotiate. He wanted to make sure that the people outside the domes were not going to miss out on whatever good tidings the "angel" brought from on high. He appears to be a sort of lay preacher later in the episode.

Seemed to me like what McGowen wanted was for Roger to negotiate with the angel specifically to ensure that people outside the domes are saved (brought to heaven, whatever) equally with those inside the domes.

So not just a matter of missing out on the news/gospel, but on salvation.

Narsham

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Originally posted by Wingnut Narsham. Dorothy simply broke the seals that had developed over time. (likely rust or something similar) Once the seal was broken the door could be opened by anyone.

Any evidence to support that supposition? I don't recall hearing any sound effect to suggest rust was the problem.

Either the door was locked (but no evidence of that either), or it was designed to require superhuman strength to open.

Pygmalion, I take the working elevator, coupled with the electric eye warning system, as evidence that the place is still in use, perhaps by Alex Rosewater's people. The rest is left looking trashed to discourage people from wandering in. Though it is not at all clear whether the protected rooms are kept clean by the android there, or whether that indicates someone else comes in and out.

I would point out that the final room is NOT particularly clean, and the Android attacks Roger there. That leads me to guess that the android isn't doing the cleaning, but has in fact guarded that room.

Narsham

It may be that Angel had no trouble opening the doors because she knew HOW. She had a key or knew which button to push to make them open automatically or something. Unlike Roger, Angel tends to do her homework first. Take MISSING CAT, or instance. Angel knew the layout of Eugene's building: Roger didn't.

Roger doesn't even think to ask the right questions of Dorothy when she's standing right there. He torqued her off by asking if she was nostalgic for her old home instead of asking her what to expect inside the building.

Aren'e we all ingoring somthing here.

What the hell did fall from the sky in day of the advent.

If it was a satelitte it had to have crashed through the superdome in order for it to reach paradigm? Why no debris?

Or was it part of the superdome? Which could explain why it was eaiser to stop.

But really we still don't know what the hell it was.

Didn't we find out last time that that piece of sateltite that rosewater had said "Tsar" in russian?

The super-dome isn't a dome the same way the ones in the city are, it's more like a giant dome-shaped grid. An object could easily fly through, especially considering how big those metal bars are and how big the space between them must be (the satallite wasn't even the size of Big O while the superdome pieces were almost double the size of Big Duo).

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Originally posted by C.R Foxhound Tammy is voiced by Sherry Lyyn(sp?) the VA for Sasami from Tenchi Muyo Hey, dont you guys think Sasami is cute. Cutie baby,cutie baby, cutie baby

Thanks for that! I'm at ease now. And yes, Sasami is ridiculously cute.

It's implied the "memories of the future" are just analysis of how what occured in the past would affect the future, ie, satellites put up in the past would eventually fall. If that is the case, I think it'd be easy to assume that the builder of the superdome would have that same info, and to provide the most real setup possible, have a fake satellite come down just as the real one would, or did, depending on what the superdome actually is. We don't know enough about what the superdome is, though, only hints.

Was a reason ever given for the lab being covered in an inch of copper? I don't seem to remember any further mention of it.

When Dorothy lit the room with her light, Roger was amazed that a scientist actually lived there.
Dorothy then said that floor of the house was encased in one inch of copper plating.
Roger asked why.
She replied that Old Man Tim Wayneright never told her the reason - though it was obvious to her that the old man was afraid of something.

I guess that it is left to speculation.

Funny.
As Dorothy put a hand on the door handle and opened it for Roger, he stumbles into the pitch-black room.
He spins around and starts to call Dorothy's name - like he's a bit scared.

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Originally posted by YZEtc When Dorothy lit the room with her light, Roger was amazed that a scientist actually lived there. Dorothy then said that floor of the house was encased in one inch of copper plating. Roger asked why. She replied that Old Man Tim Wayneright never told her the reason - though it was obvious to her that the old man was afraid of something. I guess that it is left to speculation. Funny. As Dorothy put a hand on the door handle and opened it for Roger, he stumbles into the pitch-black room. He spins around and starts to call Dorothy's name - like he's a bit scared.

Plating a room in conducting metal, such as copper, is usually done to turn it into a Faraday cage. This prevents penetration by electric or magnetic fields, such as an EMP pulse. Labs that work with very sensitive electronics use them, and the military has quite a few screened complexes here and there too. As to what Wainright was afraid of, it would have to be some sort of electronic contamination. More than that I cannot guess.

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Originally posted by The Big Mo Was a reason ever given for the lab being covered in an inch of copper? I don't seem to remember any further mention of it.

I don't ever recall a reason, but one look at Wainwright and you'd figure he's the tin-foil hat wearing type.

I always assumed it was because he was afraid of R.D. returning to bump him off.