Mystery of Swartzwald

Yo I look at that Character Swartzwald and the First thing that comes in My Mind is "What The Hell Is He ?! " I mean he has his Head shaped like a Dam Shriveld Sausage ! and he has a Glass Lense on his eye and rapped around with Bandaids on his head more than you can say "The Mummy Returns" I mean what is he ? I know he was a Reporter but most important ? What The Hell just happend to him ? I mean his Face ??!

My friend that is what happens when you dare toil around with strange robots that you think you should find the truth about... hmm doubt he gets many girls with that style. On a more serious note, last night after watching "enemy is another big" I've decided that his head is actually shaped like that. It was previously said that it was just the bandages that he put into that shape but after I really watched the Schwartzclown scene I noticed how there was the little hangy thingamabob in the back! Eureka! Could it possibly be that his head is just like putty and that it can simply collapse like that? Seems kinda likely to me since I have known stranger things from this show...hickup kickup... Alan Gabriel.

In Underground Terror he implied that his burns and bandages were the result of his activating Archetype. I caught it in my last viewing of the episode, but can't check the quote now(my DVDs are at school, I'm home for the weekend). Maybe there was a fire in Archetype's control cockpit? Something that let him have a snippet of Memory. Also, he seems to have strange powers with bandages and fire. Just look at Duo's bandage covering. While covered in it, it was able to use the bandages like Big O used its wires. Maybe he gained some sort of "bandage Memory" when Archetype activated. as well.

The lens is fairly simple. It's probably a covering to protect his eye. I've heard that people who lose their eyelids have things like that. His head is harder to explain. Maybe it's just a pile of bandages and he does it for style?

Might not be a good comparison, but whenever I see Schwarzwald, I always think he looks like he had a memory of the Ku Klux and tried to replicate the clothing. One of the reasons why I don't like him too much.

Aside from that, we do know that his burns are in someway related to the archetype's activation. He said it himself. "I've released the lock, and for my trouble this is what's become of me! What a shame, that you couldn't end up the same way!"
Schwarzwald reactivated the archetype on his own, no help. Big O had always been on, just needed to be called by Roger and the watch. Big Duo was also active, it simply needed someone to get in the cockpit. Big Fau had been rebuilt using any resources needed and the full finacial backing of the Paradigm Corp.
And we saw the Big Fau required high levels of electricity to reactivate.
In other words, a Big needs a heck of alot of energy.
Could it be that Scwarzwald had tried to use fire or something else, but working alone, simply didn't handle it to well?

That's a good idea.
Maybe he tried to use some old power plant used by the subways, but the generators overloaded and blew up in his face.

One thing I noticed about Schwarzwald from Act 4, is that he does have both eyes. He just has one protected and/or behind that lens.

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Originally posted by The Big Ian One thing I noticed about Schwarzwald from Act 4, is that he does have both eyes. He just has one protected and/or behind that lens.

Yeah, I mentioned that in my post. THe lens protects his left eye, which I'd guess lost it's eyelid when he was first burned. Wonder where he got the lens, though?

OR maybe he just wore a monocle? It's a shame we never saw Seebach before he became Swartzwald. IT'd be interesting to see what he looked like before being burned.

I think Seebach wore glasses. After getting torched by opening the Archetype, the frames were broken and the only lens still intact is the left.
So the bandages not only conceal his burns, but hold the lens in place.

That works for me. Though the idea of him wearing a monocle still tickles my fancy.

Been reading the msgs, and just had a stray thought. Here's a possibility out of left field: What if... one of the things Schwarzwald found out when he activated the '04 Expo Archtype was... he was an android, like Big Ear? Maybe he didn't even know his true nature until the fire - maybe his face was horribly burned - his metal 'skull' casing torched - melted, even - into the bizarre-looking cone shape we know and love now? It would certainly go a long way to explaining how Schwartzwald was able to survive such a horrific fire, with apparently no (assumed) major madical intervention. It also might explain the visible eye looking so wierd (with the circles) - like a well lit version of Dorothy's eyes.

I guess that gets back to the whole line of thought someone else posted long ago, when they noticed in (Ep1 Roger the Negotiator) Dorothy's eyes were illuminated in her shadow - like all the main characters shadows are in the season one opening credits... which goes back to the whole 'everyone is an android' concept....

....synthetic holo-matter androids at that....
depending, of course, on what you believe....

Paradigm City: Some assembly required. Megadei extra. Memories not included. Your reality may vary......

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Originally posted by BigPrime quote: Originally posted by The Big Ian One thing I noticed about Schwarzwald from Act 4, is that he does have both eyes. He just has one protected and/or behind that lens. Yeah, I mentioned that in my post. THe lens protects his left eye, which I'd guess lost it's eyelid when he was first burned. Wonder where he got the lens, though? OR maybe he just wore a monocle? It's a shame we never saw Seebach before he became Swartzwald. IT'd be interesting to see what he looked like before being burned.

well, i have to say he does have an eyelid, i re-watached the scene, and he blinked

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No. Schwartzwald's human. When Schwartzwald accidentally engulfed himself in flames, he was in extreme pain. And when Big O was destroying Big Duo he was screaming in fear.

Roger is human too. Whatever Paradigm City might be, I don't think it's a computer fantasy.

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Originally posted by Mr. Peabody No. Schwartzwald's human. When Schwartzwald accidentally engulfed himself in flames, he was in extreme pain. And when Big O was destroying Big Duo he was screaming in fear. Roger is human too. Whatever Paradigm City might be, I don't think it's a computer fantasy.

IF Schwartzwald was unaware of what he was, then the android body is probably advanced enough to have sensors equivalent to human nerve endings. And if his body was designed to feel pain, his reactions wouldn't be too surprising. Likewise the fear showed in Big Duo would have been completely natural, regardless of whether he was a real human, or an android designed to live and think and act like a human.

Mind you, I'm not saying he is an android, I'm just saying it is possible. The same goes for Roger Smith, although I definately suspect if there is only one real human in Paradigm City, he is it. After The Show Must Go On, I think everything is suspect.

It seems to me like Paradigm City is very much a computer fantasy 'holodeck' mockup, even if not all the people in it are.

I had always assumed that he lost the left eye, and that the glass was either a glass eye or some kind of glassy eyepatch.

Well I saw this thread and I figured this might relate:

It seems to me that Schwartzwald is the only villain the Roger may have a connection too, in fact maybe Roger wants Schwartzwald to find out the truth, doesnt Roger himself want to know the truth?

and the head...

its a fashion statement...

what better way to say you want to expand your mind by finding the truth then by literally "expanding" it

Triangular heads, it soooooooooo chic darling

Just saw this on a Science Channel show, and thought of Schwarzwald.

"All of human civilization, and move of our science, comes from playing with fire"

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Originally posted by Bentar quote: Originally posted by Mr. Peabody No. Schwartzwald's human. When Schwartzwald accidentally engulfed himself in flames, he was in extreme pain. And when Big O was destroying Big Duo he was screaming in fear. Roger is human too. Whatever Paradigm City might be, I don't think it's a computer fantasy. IF Schwartzwald was unaware of what he was, then the android body is probably advanced enough to have sensors equivalent to human nerve endings. And if his body was designed to feel pain, his reactions wouldn't be too surprising. Likewise the fear showed in Big Duo would have been completely natural, regardless of whether he was a real human, or an android designed to live and think and act like a human. Mind you, I'm not saying he is an android, I'm just saying it is possible. The same goes for Roger Smith, although I definately suspect if there is only one real human in Paradigm City, he is it. After The Show Must Go On, I think everything is suspect. It seems to me like Paradigm City is very much a computer fantasy 'holodeck' mockup, even if not all the people in it are.

anything is possible if you have a good imagination... hey maybe you and I are androids

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Originally posted by BigO-SHOWTIME quote: Originally posted by Bentar quote: Originally posted by Mr. Peabody No. Schwartzwald's human. When Schwartzwald accidentally engulfed himself in flames, he was in extreme pain. And when Big O was destroying Big Duo he was screaming in fear. Roger is human too. Whatever Paradigm City might be, I don't think it's a computer fantasy. IF Schwartzwald was unaware of what he was, then the android body is probably advanced enough to have sensors equivalent to human nerve endings. And if his body was designed to feel pain, his reactions wouldn't be too surprising. Likewise the fear showed in Big Duo would have been completely natural, regardless of whether he was a real human, or an android designed to live and think and act like a human. Mind you, I'm not saying he is an android, I'm just saying it is possible. The same goes for Roger Smith, although I definately suspect if there is only one real human in Paradigm City, he is it. After The Show Must Go On, I think everything is suspect. It seems to me like Paradigm City is very much a computer fantasy 'holodeck' mockup, even if not all the people in it are. anything is possible if you have a good imagination... hey maybe you and I are androids

I've been called many things; but an android, or a louse, haven't been among them.

he is the insane psycho evil guy that ends up weeding out the idiots in Paradigm city not fit to live at all with themselves.



HENCE

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