Big O + Big Venus = Hot Robot Action (WARNING! Immature content!)
| A Clockwork Tomato |
02-11-2004 03:32 PM |
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Originally posted by Rekkoha
Anybody ever think for a moment that all Megadeuses, semisentient or otherwise, are robots? Robots are incapable of feeling. They can occasionally simulate emotion, but cannot actually FEEL in the way humans do.
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You mean, only hormone-soaked meatbags can feel true emotions? Glands are what make us human?
I thought this was put to rest in THE UNDERGROUND TERROR. Dorothy seemed adequately frightened to me!
Androids and Megadeuses seem to be built with the same technology. We know that Dorothy is capable not only of feeling terror, irritation, and so on, but that she also has the hots for Roger Smith (I think this was demonstrated pretty well in THE GREATEST VILLAIN). If Megadeuses are an analogous technology, the case for Megadeus horniness is not easily dismissed.
| Randolph |
02-11-2004 03:42 PM |
I'll be frank.
A machine is a collection of small pieces made of inorganic material. This material is, 99% of the time, metal. Metal is a nonsentient substance. It has no mind of it's own. It's below even algae.
A Megadeus is simply an extremely complex, large-scale jigsaw puzzle made of thousands and thousands of pieces of shaped, stylized and chemical-trated metals. But no matter how complex the thing gets, it will still be just metal. Okay, maybe some plastic and a bit of bulletproof glass.
Since the Megadeus is all metal, I would assume that it would retain the properties of metal. Whatever movements this mass of metal would engage in, these movements are interpreted by our human minds in relation to our own human actions. If the Megadeus was sentient, ie alive, why the hell would it want someone stuck inside it, forcing it to move in exact and specific ways in order to accomplish a goal it probably would have no interest in?
Megadeuses were originally designed as war machines. They were like tanks, only better. They're just vehicles to multiply the power of a single soldier.
The fact that one think for itself is questonable. In my opinion, the way that Big O responds to Roger Smith is an entirely robotic mechanism. Think of Act 18. If the Big O was sentient and recognized Roger, it wouldn't have been following the dummy of Roger, which it should have recognized as "Not Roger" because it had no arms or legs and was going around on a little wagon with a watch dangling in front of it as it repeated the same phrase over and over.
See my point?
A Megadeus is a machine. Like all machines, it can only serve the purpose it was built for. It is a tool with no will of it's own, and therefore... it can't have sex for produce babies. That's madness.
| Wingnut |
02-11-2004 04:01 PM |
Big O followed Roger's voiceprint signature as a homeing beacon to Roger's assumed location. Metal or not you forget the memory inside of any robot that is required for it to function properly. Think AI advanced to the point of sentiance. Besides this hot robot action thread is ment to be a gag for the purpose of humor, don't take it that seroiusly.
| Randolph |
02-11-2004 04:12 PM |
Can I help it that I am devoted and have enormous respect for the Big O? I get ticked off when people start joking around with something I have respect for.
And by the way... I personally believe that sentience only comes from a living soul, not the brain chemistry or advanced AI.
I'll spare you the details....
| Wingnut |
02-11-2004 04:18 PM |
Well that is your belief, I am a little more open-minded on that topic.
I too can appreciate the desire to defend something like Big O when it is joked about in a negitive light. You would not believe the number of fanfics I have come across that I have just wanted to burn on the spot they were so bad. And I'm not just refering to Big O.
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Originally posted by Rekkoha
Anybody ever think for a moment that all Megadeuses, semisentient or otherwise, are robots? Robots are incapable of feeling. They can occasionally simulate emotion, but cannot actually FEEL in the way humans do. |
EDIT:
I originally posted an answer to this here, but moved it to a new topic, as Bonnie Frasier correctly pointed out it was a completely separate subject.
It can be found here.
| Bonnie Frasier |
02-11-2004 04:46 PM |
First, my lil bit of off topicness, what about the time Big O one way or another commincated with roger when he told him to go save Dorothy and he'd hold off Bonaparte, and what about when Big O goes to plug Roger and Roger asks him if it's what he wants. Roger himself treats Big O as though he's sentient. You really wanna disagree with Roger Smith? Be careful, u might get urself negotiated like Beck and the others.
Second this thread is goin off topic. I would think further discussion of sentience should be in it's own thread.
| Randolph |
02-11-2004 05:01 PM |
Hmmm. Lot to think about.
Okay, so I misworded my idea.
I was not really thinking of automatic mechanisms used by any given entity to maintain it's own well-being. Obviously, Big O displays this quality. For example, in Act 18, Big O knows to stop walking when he reaches the edge of the building. This would be a survival mechanism. As you put it, there is a definite good/not good mechanic installed in Big O.
I would elaborate, but I think I can keep this short.
The Bigs -- indeed, all Megadeuses -- have mechanisms and what would be crude computer programs that give them the ability to react to situations they encounter.
Big O stops at the edge, his mechanism telling him that falling into the water is not in his best interest.
Megadeuses such as Big Duo seek out a Dominus to pilot them when no Dominus is currently active.
And of course, Big Fau begins a hostile takeover, entirely of his own accord, firing his energy weapon without Rosewater's command. But this instance of Megadeus intellect seems questionable, when considering that Dorothy's memory unit was used to revive Big Fau, perhaps loaning him temporary advanced AI and emotional systems?
I doubt that Big Fau would have done anything had Dorothy's memory core not been used in his revival, considering that Megadeuses, being originally produced as war weapons, would have had any form of complex AI as they would not only be mass produced, making expensive AI programs inefficient, but also have Dominuses to take care of complicated decisions for them.
However, humans and all living organisms display much greater perceptivity and responsiveness, thus leading me to believe that even if the robots of Big O are sentient, they are of a far inferior intellect.
But perhaps this is only because their metal bodies lack the nerves and muscles that enable humans to perceive every motion within their presence?
Think of how lifelike Big Duo Inferno was when he become an extension of Alan Gabriel's body. There you have the perfect example of what a Megadeus would be were it truly alive.
But still... the Megadeus and the Android are both mere machines. Art imitating Life.
| Dude Love |
02-12-2004 12:11 PM |
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Originally posted by A Clockwork Tomato
It's just that the hot robot action in Act 26 is what puts the Big O into BIG O. We saw Big O and Big Venus become the Megadeus with Two Backs, and then we had a new world as a result. Geez, how much more explicit could it have been?
Final Stage is probably just a courtship ritual, since it was used on Big Fau and not Big Venus. The battle decided who had dibs on Big Venus. |
Aw, God. Why?! WHY?!! Why did you have to bring Othello or whatever Shakespeare play it is into this? God, I thought at least a few things would be off limits, but this...
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Originally posted by A Clockwork Tomato
What? Heretic! This thread is devoted to truth, beauty, and the importance of using the very finest lubricants. |
*SPITS*

*coughsputtergag*
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| And we haven't even BEGUN to discuss important related issues, such as whether Big Duo should invite Dorothy 1 or Glinda to the prom. |
Nonsense! It HAS to be Glinda!
She's hotter. >O
Though I still say he should be dressed up Inferno-style. It's much snazzier, you know. <3
I'm not biased or anything.
| Randolph |
02-28-2004 05:32 PM |
How DARE you revive this thread you idiots!!
*Arm Braces open and rotate on Rekkoha's left arm*
I have had just about enough mechanical sexual content and the extensive philosophical theorems resulting therof!
*Rekkoha throws huge lightning ball at thread*
BIIIIG electric explosion ala Big Duo's megaton missiles
And to finish the job
*Rekkoha jumps into Big Geo*
And... action!
*Slams hand into switch panel*
Big Geo's Emerald Weapon Vortex Barrage opens and all 100 Gravity Warheads fly and land directly on the HRA Thread. The huge black-hole effect sucks in all the stupidity and even the nice intellectualism and crushes it to the size of a pinhead.
Wow, that reminds me of the Archmage Royal Rumble....
Maybe I should start a thread on that....
| Lady Tesser |
02-28-2004 05:32 PM |
Big O - respected and sacred.
Sex - respected and sacred.
What do both have in common?
Both can benefit from a little applied sense of humor. I'd've killed myself by now if life had to be serious, straight-forward, and lacking joy all the time. Life is depressing enough as it is - having to view it without humor would surely mark me for early death.
This thread's re-re-re-resurrection is proof enough that we can have fun and still respect the piece. (And if you don't like it, don't read it.)
And Glinda is more of a trophy date - more impressive to the other guys at the prom. ^_^
| darkangel |
03-03-2004 06:57 PM |
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Originally posted by Xel
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Originally posted by A Clockwork Tomato
What? Heretic! This thread is devoted to truth, beauty, and the importance of using the very finest lubricants. |
*SPITS*
*coughsputtergag*
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| And we haven't even BEGUN to discuss important related issues, such as whether Big Duo should invite Dorothy 1 or Glinda to the prom. |
Nonsense! It HAS to be Glinda! She's hotter. >O
Though I still say he should be dressed up Inferno-style. It's much snazzier, you know. <3
I'm not biased or anything. |
Not only is Glinda hotter, she's also more agile. You know what that means. AND she's feisty.
As for Rekkoha, I think it's just a matter of opinion. Some people believe and want to believe that in the Big O universe a A.I. can be sentient. Some people believe and want to believe that this is impossible that humans are unique in the universe. The key word here isn't 'believe' but 'want'. You can tell us about your reasons for believing that Big O is not sentient all you want but the fact is that some of us
want to believe that he can be. You're not going to make any converts.
This thread is just for fun. If you don't like it go somewhere else. The people here are making fun of Big O with love in their hearts which is nothing like the white hot hatred I have for Enterprise in my heart when I write my reviews over at the Farscape Kansas board. Any ENT fan (if they exist) would be justified in flaming my sorry ass for those.
But in saying that Big O is just a machine is kinda missing one of the points of 'Big O'. Humanity is more than just homegrown flesh.
muchlove
-Dork
| Dude Love |
03-05-2004 11:53 PM |
You forget, Dorothy I is twins with R.Dorothy. And everyone likes twins.
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Originally posted by Wienberg
You forget, Dorothy I is twins with R.Dorothy. And everyone likes twins.
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They and Roger and Big O can double date.
@_o but what if Dorothy 1 wants Roger? o_@
-dork
| Dude Love |
03-06-2004 12:06 AM |
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Originally posted by Dork
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Originally posted by Wienberg
You forget, Dorothy I is twins with R.Dorothy. And everyone likes twins.
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They and Roger and Big O can double date.
@_o but what if Dorothy 1 wants Roger? o_@ |
Love Triangle. Happens in real life, why can't it happen for Roger, Big Duo, and R.Dorothy.
| Gerbera345 |
03-06-2004 02:47 AM |
But Dorothy I has no hands, she'd just squish Roger and then Paradigm would have a problem on it's hands.
And one really torqued R. Dorothy.
But you know Big O would ask Glinda to the prom.
Dorothy I just wouldn't take no for an answer, she just kept coming back and bugging Big O endlessly, and she seemed a bit touchy-feely, what with the excessive hugging and such.
Besides, Glinda doesn't have huge lobster hands and is thinner and more athletic than R. Dorothy's chunky big sister, nothing is scarier than someone with huge lobster claws for hands.
| Gestmaniac |
03-06-2004 02:54 AM |
Umm, sick thoughts in my mind!
but isnt this like people, a male and female megadeus or are they Bi's
DAMN SCIENCE AND RELIGION CLASS!!!! CURSE YOU 7 AND 6
| A Clockwork Tomato |
04-06-2004 10:47 PM |
There was this weird chick Dorothy One
Who had an odd concept of fun.
She'd tie you with rope,
Then close in for a grope
And brand you if you tried to run.