A Big O movie...

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Originally posted by angelcakes I was just think, if not a season three, why not get a Big O movie? I mean by asking for a movie we're not being greedy, but finally get our answer, so what are you guyes thought/ideas about a Big O movie. I thought ; spoiler (highlight to read): After the time time loop, what if Dorothy and Roger met again and broke the time loop, but only for them and maybe Norman. Angel would be completely out of the way and they could finally be happy I put in spoiler cues cause of the mention of the Act 26 ending.

I like the way you think AngelCakes!

Hm, maybe. But not as a post-Act 26 *sequel*. What would work better would be a movie-length stand-alone story, set about mid-way during Season 1, or a little later, maybe sometime between "Beck Comes Back" and "Daemonseed." Sort of like what they did with the _Cowboy Bebop_ movie, sandwiching in a stand-alone story, so as not to mess with the finale.

Doc

I agree with, dr_malaki. The reason why I love the Cowboy Bebop movie so much is that it's like a really long episode on a bigger budget. And like CB, The Big O has all sorts of mini-stories that make up a larger plot. The movie could be one of those stories, but obviously much longer and lined with much more money.

Id go with a prequel movie...explaining events prior to Act 01....or go with a movie right after Act 26 that ties everything together...via flashbacks or something and then have something monumental happen that starts a new storyline...almost as if forcing a season 3...

My preference would be for the first movie...a prequel...the second idea basically came to me as I was writing this post...so its not really necessary..just an idea...

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Originally posted by StevieV019 Id go with a prequel movie...explaining events prior to Act 01....or go with a movie right after Act 26 that ties everything together...via flashbacks or something and then have something monumental happen that starts a new storyline...almost as if forcing a season 3... My preference would be for the first movie...a prequel...the second idea basically came to me as I was writing this post...so its not really necessary..just an idea...

If a movie is going to make money, it needs to appeal to a broad audience. If we set a movie before Act 1, we're talking about a movie that has neither Dorothy nor Angel in it. But a lot of us would never have paid attention to Big O if it hadn't been for Dorothy. Most of the magic would be gone.

A post-Act-26 explanation movie would fail to attract an audience who hasn't followed the whole show. With a movie, you want to attract everyone who has seen any episodes at all, and new viewers besides. Explaining Act 26 is exactly what you DON'T want to do if this is your goal. Better to explain things in bits and pieces over the course of season 3.

I think the idea of setting a movie somewhere within the Season 1/Season 2 timeline is what would work. It should have Dorothy and Angel in it, still in competition with one another, and it should be a stand-alone adventure, rather than being about stopping Alex Rosewater. So it needs to be set after ELECTRIC CITY but before STRIPES.

Ideally, it would have both Beck and Schwarzwald in it, if you could get the plot to work without too much collateral damage to other episodes.

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If a movie is going to make money, it needs to appeal to a broad audience. If we set a movie before Act 1, we're talking about a movie that has neither Dorothy nor Angel in it. But a lot of us would never have paid attention to Big O if it hadn't been for Dorothy. Most of the magic would be gone

Not necessarily...the real life, non android Dorothy could be alive...in which case, an explanation with her background could intrigue those who were drawn to Dorothy in the first place. Angel would and could still be alive pre-Act 01 as well. Granted, I didnt give a specific time frame as to when the movie prequel should take place...but all the characters from the first two season could be present. Explaining the background to Gordon Rosewater and perhaps a younger Roger and Alex and Angel and Dorothy could be legitimate and still capture the magic from the first two seasons. Like I said, a prequel, could work...it doesnt have to be "pre-event" (40 years prior to Act 01)...in which case, flashbacks could connect the EVENT with the current characters introduced in Season 1, at which point...certain motives could be explained, and thus, the story and movie could work....

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A post-Act-26 explanation movie would fail to attract an audience who hasn't followed the whole show. With a movie, you want to attract everyone who has seen any episodes at all, and new viewers besides. Explaining Act 26 is exactly what you DON'T want to do if this is your goal. Better to explain things in bits and pieces over the course of season 3.

Im not necessarily trying to attract a broad audience or even a new audience...Season 1 and Season 2 are good enough for me to attract newer viewers to the show. This is personal preference, my movie idea isnt to attract "everyone"...its to provide entertainment with a concurrent story that is intriguing. Im not trying to explain Act 26, nor would I want it explained, Id want the movie to TIE into Act 26 to help continue the story IF and ONLY IF an apt story line or new approach to the series could be done.

I am sympathetic to having a movie be set somewhere before Act 26. However, since it is "Big O," it will have to involve flashbacks

It would be kind of cool after explaining the situation to the new viewers and working with it a little to get into some flashbacks.

On the other hand, perhaps the best way to segue into a Season 3 would be with a movie which would explore what happened right after the end of Act 26. It's something that perhaps ought to be explored in the longer form w/o having to remind non-addicted viewers who haven't been watching it every night about what has already been happening.

I think that having a post-Season 2 movie would be ideal but it's probably not a good commecial idea since you'd have to explain a good deal of what we already know to new viewers. Sadly, "Big O" is not like "Transformers" or "Pokemon" where the shows are so popular everyone already knows them and doesn't have to be clued into the storyline.

I believe a movie would be better than a season 3. It could cover more.
I think a movie should cover how Roger came to find Big O more throughly as explained in epi 14, and it should include battles and situations from the manga. I believe it should cover before and after the TV show, and either explain everything we don't know, or just make it look ever cooler.

Overall though, I just wanted to see the manga Angel . That and Roger actually sweatdropping.

I say make a season3 the battle between Big-0 versus Venus VS. Big Fau after that make a movie to the events prior to 40 years ago explain what happen and lead it to the Act1-, like why for some reason Roger left the Paradigm Police ? how was Dorothy created? who build the Megadueses? and all the other major characters orgins as well this could help explain how all this started anyone else as an idea?

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I'd say the only 'good' anime movie is the Cowboy Bebop one...Char's Counterattack is a good movie. A really, really, really good movie.

These movies are excellent examples of how anime movies should be done, even though their styles are very different. Cowboy Bebop is a great movie because it successfully recreates the feel of the series itself, essentially in a two-hour long episode--it didn't try to be overly dramatic, just tried to recreate the same feeling as the episodes. Char's Counterattack is another feeling, because it provides a dramatic backdrop to the end of an epic series--in contrast to Bebop, it uses the movie-style to a more-dramatic end in that, if it was done in episodes, it would not have the same epic feeling.

For Big O, I believe that the answer lies in Cowboy Bebop's response: Make it like an epic story that could not be successfully done in an episode or even a series of episodes. Most of us here don't want to see Big O to end, so the directors shouldn't go the path of creating a dramatic backdrop for an ending; however, the movie format would provide an interesting place for a battle that we've always wanted to see...

Don't try to answer any questions. Keep it simple. But don't just re-tell the story that we already know. Both Cowboy Bebop and Char's Counterattack were great movies because, while you didn't necessarily require previous knowledge of the world or characters, those that did enjoyed the movie that much more. So, for a Big O movie, Roger could say: "Paradigm City...a city of amnesia...forty years ago, [you know the rest]" and then people would know what's going on. That's all it takes.

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For Big O, I believe that the answer lies in Cowboy Bebop's response: Make it like an epic story that could not be successfully done in an episode or even a series of episodes. Most of us here don't want to see Big O to end, so the directors shouldn't go the path of creating a dramatic backdrop for an ending; however, the movie format would provide an interesting place for a battle that we've always wanted to see...

Its a good idea...but the problem that I see is this:

Where would the episode take place in the overall Big O storyline? I can definitely go for a longer episode, a la Cowboy Bebop's movie, but the good thing about Cowboy Bebop was this: The series didnt have an ongoing storyline that continued from episode to episode. There were underlying themes and aspects of the story that were hinted at that helped develop the characters (the syndicate, Julia, Jet's police background, Faye's missing memory, Edward's lack of family, etc. etc.), but these didnt control the storyline completely. The last two episodes, and 3 other episodes within Cowboy Bebop really had a continuous storyline feel...those involved Vicious and the Syndicate. Cowboy Bebop the movie fit pretty well within the episodes that had taken place, and it was independent of the continuous, linked episodes. Hence, it fit fairly well.

With Big O...a long extended episode would have to be in Season one's timeframe, as that was generally the only part of the series that wasnt continuous with its storyline. Most of the episodes in season 1 were independent of each other. In season 2, well, most of the episodes were continuous and linked to the previous episodes based upon the storyline. If a Big O movie came out that acted as an extended episode, putting it in Season 2 would only confuse the storyline that was created in that season, if it were an independent story. There would basically be a continuity issue and a confusion/whats the point issue. If Roger, during this extended episode went off on a case that wasnt consistent with the storyline presented in season 2, things would end up confused and goofy, from a continuity and consistency basis. It wouldnt make sense for Roger, after taking most of season 2 to deal with that story and those issues, to go off and take an independent case or job when most of his time was spent investigating the ongoings in season 2.

Basically, the long extended episode of Big O would have to pretty much take place in season 1, or else it would have to revisit the season 2 storyline in order to preserve the continuity of the series' timeline and plot. Of course, thats only if the movie were to take place within the series and werent a prequel, similar to the Cowboy Bebop movie.

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Originally posted by StevieV019 Where would the episode take place in the overall Big O storyline?...With Big O...a long extended episode would have to be in Season one's timeframe...

I never thought about that, but I must agree. However, to say that it is implausible is false, as you have already pointed-out that there is a niche in which the Big O movie could possibly be created. On the other side, fans could be dissappointed in seeing a movie that takes place prior to the developments most current in the series. I would say though, that as a Big O fan, I would jump at anything new.--The potential movie doesn't have to address Alex Rosewater or the Big Venus, it just has to be Big O. I think the fans would like it no matter what.

What I would want out of a movie would depend greatly on whether or not there are to be more episodes to be made.

If a movie would be the last hurrah for The Big O , then I would be hoping for something that made what we last saw of the series reasonably clear, and not have some kinda' weird-o, mysterious end to it.

If there are in fact more episodes to come, then a movie situated somewhere within the 1st season would be nice, which I enjoyed very much, indeed - that feel I get from episodes #12 and #13 is very hard to beat.

Whatever was done, all I could really ask is that it just be good enough to knock my head off.

wasnt that my idea lol

i agree MOVIE!

ps. nice avatar!