Manga Discussion

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Originally posted by BIGMEGA quote: Originally posted by Dork quote: Originally posted by Pygmalion quote: Originally posted by BIGMEGA I would stay as far away from angel a possible you never know what she might do to you. Do you think after what we see of Angel's last location, she'll be "beck"? Pygmalion You're worse than ACT. -------------------------------- I can't believe what a bitch Manga Angel is. She's such a bitch. I mean, those of you who've read vol. 6 know what she did. You see how she's a bitch. I mean, really. Guh. Meanie >_< she's like a horrible person. She would impress Alan. ------------------------------- I love the graphics in the back of the books. I wonder if I could send the scans I took to the site. Even if these books are translated we prolly won't get all the nice graphics. This one's pretty funny. So I guess americans are supose to be bad influences? lol Manga Angel and Alan very,very,very scary. We really missed out on some nice extras in the Viz release.No mini posters,no charachter designs I dont think we got all the mini comics either.We probably wouldnt get the Lost Memory extras either.

So how many mini comics and extra graphics do you think we missed out on? I think only the second manga has the mini comic in the english version and I think that's the one with the interview and concept art. There's not anything in the others except for those editors comics.


-dork

Why don't I post what's extra in the English versions and someone else can do the same for the Japanese ones. Then we can compare...

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Vol. 1 (english):
1 pg: Artist's Comic - introduces the manga crew.
1 pg: Assistant Page - shows Dorothy in a Big O armor.
1 pg: Gallery of covers of the original comics.

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Vol. 2 (english):
10 pgs: Paradigm Gallery - sample artwork with comments below
7 pgs: Interview #1 with Big O creators
1 pg: Assistant Page - shows Dorothy holding a mop w/ Instro
4 pgs: Mini comic - Dorothy lulls a tire Roger to sleep
1 pg: Gallery of covers of the original comics.

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Vol. 3 (english):
1 pg: Artist's Comic - artist is tired from work.
1 pg: Assistant Page - shows Dorothy attacking Beck with knife
1 pg: Gallery of covers of the original comics.

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Vol. 4 (english):
1 pg: Gallery of covers of the original comics.

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Vol. 5 (english):
1 pg: Artist's Comic - artist is wondering around.
1 pg: Assistant Page - shows Dorothy riding a scooter

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Vol. 6 (english):
1 pg: Artist's Comic - artist is compares manga with anime.
1 pg: Assistant Page - shows Angel holding a gun

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So it looks like after Vol. 2, they got totally lazy! You think they will put out an extra's issue? I've seen that for some Manga, like Appleseed.

This is what R-Umino posted earlier about the Japanese Vol. 3 and 6.

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Originally posted by R-Umino Volume 3 -Fold out Poster of Beck -Interview (?) with Kazuyoshi Katayama, Hitoshi Ariga, Keiichi Sato -Extra image of Schwaltzwalt looking over Big O -Bonus Comic: Dan Dastun -Paradigm(e) Gallery: Paradigme Press Roger & Big-O Dorothy 2 & Dorothy 1 Beck & BeckFamily Angel & Schwarzwald #1 TAKE BACK A MEMORY Volume 6 -Foldout Poster of Roger, Dorothy, and Big O -Paradigme Gallery No. 1 R.Dorothy No.2 Angel No. 3 Core No. 4 Roger -Mini Roger Comic w/h Instro and Dorothy -Realistic Picture of Big O characters -HITOSHI THE ORIGNATOR article

Here is a comparison of those volumes. It may be possible that some extras are put into other volumes so I'm not 100% sure about the comparisons. If this is not so, then we got totally ripped! Also, R-Umino didn't mention the Artist's comic and Assistant Page... perhaps what we see as a 'bonus' is really just the normal stuff for manga. Those guys at VIZ are thinking: why give them a steak when they'll jump for a stick!

Volume 3 Comparison:
-Fold out Poster of Beck [missing]
-Interview (?) with Kazuyoshi Katayama, Hitoshi Ariga, Keiichi Sato [in Vol. 2?]
-Extra image of Schwaltzwalt looking over Big O [missing]
-Bonus Comic: Dan Dastun [missing]
-Paradigm(e) Gallery: [missing? or in Vol 2?]
Paradigme Press
Roger & Big-O
Dorothy 2 & Dorothy 1
Beck & BeckFamily
Angel & Schwarzwald
#1 TAKE BACK A MEMORY [missing?]

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Volume 6 Comparison
-Foldout Poster of Roger, Dorothy, and Big O [missing]
-Paradigme Gallery [missing]
No. 1 R.Dorothy
No.2 Angel
No. 3 Core
No. 4 Roger
-Mini Roger Comic w/h Instro and Dorothy [missing]
-Realistic Picture of Big O characters [missing]
-HITOSHI THE ORIGNATOR article [missing]

I am currently reading the first one, but it seems so much like the first episodes. If it is the same , I see no reason to read it, if I can just watch it with no need to think.


If yo havent noticed, Thinking isnt something I like to do

The only similar stories I can think of are:
- Last story in vol 1: similar to episode 1
- First story in vol 2: similar to episode 2
- A story in vol 4: somewhat similar to the Big Duo attack.

So except for the introduction of Dorothy, you should find the stories to be quite different.

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Originally posted by badbob001 -Paradigm(e) Gallery: [missing? or in Vol 2?] #1 TAKE BACK A MEMORY[/I] [missing?]

There is a Paradigme Gallery in each volume. Thats just a section of sketches from the first chapter of Big O, TAKE BACK A MEMORY.

Vol 1 Japanese
Mini poster of roger runing with big o and the words Cast in the name of God ye not gulity behind him.
Chapter 3 has a color page
No gallery of comics

Vol 2 Japanese
Mini poster of Dorothy in front of Dorothy 1
No gallery of comics

Vol 3 Japanese
Mini poster of Beck
paradigm gallery
no 1 paradigm press
no 2 Roger and Big o
no 3 Dorothy 2 and dorothy 1
no 4 the Beck family
no 5 Angel and Schwarzwald
no 6 take back a memory
page listing the staff
7 page interview <i think>
Dan Daston bonus comic
No gallery of comics

Vol 4 Japanese
Mini poster of Big O and Big Duo in combat
paradigm gallery
no 1 take back a memory
no 2 electric bug
no 3 a ghost ship and a fallen angel
no 4 no name no memory no future
no 6 my sweetheart Dorothy
no 7 i wish have a monster
no 8 drinks olgster and memory
no 9 remember me
no 10 godhead
no 11 the sun will rise agein
tired artist comic
assistant page
[a page i'm not sure about]
staff page
paradigm cafe 7 page interview
speakeasy bonus comic
no comic gallery

vol 5 Japanese
Mini poster of Roger walking down the street in the snow.
paradigm gallery
no 1 another face
no 2 inside of darkness
no 3 a former life
artist comic
assistant page
a page with becks goons
Dorothy and norman
staff page
Roger and Dorothy bonus comic

vol 6 Japanese
Mini poster of Roger,Dorothy and Big O
paradigm gallery
no 1 R dorothy
no 2 Angel
no 3 Core
no 4 Roger
artist comic
assistant page
2 pages each drawn by a different artist
staff page
Hitoshi the orginator by chiaki j. konaka

MY gosh that took a while to do. It's not perfect but I hope this will help a little.I went by the post badbod001 posted of the english versions.

I think every book english or japanese had an artist page and an assistant page to.

The Paradigm gallery is the designs for each chapters charachters if my memory is right.


If I missed anything or added something wrong I apologize.

Hey BIGMEGA, that was awesome! Thanks.

Now it seems like the English version got almost nothing in terms of extras. I am havin trouble find where some of the extras from the english versions came from:

- English vol 2's 7 page interview with Katayama, Arita, and Sato. It's titled Paradigm Pub, which may match the one in the japanese vol 3. It's interview #1 and the japanese vol 4. has another interview. Were we cheated out of the second interview?

- The bonus comic in the english vol 2 involves Norman and Dorothy. Could that be the comic in the japanese vol 5?

-The 10 page gallery in the english vol 2 doesn't seem to match any of the japanese galleries. Could it be unique to the english version? Here are the pages:
1 Dorothy standing with comic panels in background
2 Whitish Big O walking through the streets
3 Action sequence of Big O fighting an enemy
4 Poster of Roger standing in front of a gallery of other casts
5 Poster of Roger running in front of a gallery of enemies
6 Shot of a dark street inside the Dome with Roger in shadows
7 Angel standing with comic panels in background
8 Angel talking to Roger from the top of some stairs
9 Some random panels with Beck, Dorothy, and Soldano
10 Some random panels of the Roger family

- Japanese Vol 2: Mini poster of Dorothy in front of Dorothy 1. This may be the back cover of English Vol 2.

- Japanese Vol 4: Mini poster of Big O and Big Duo in combat. This may be the back cover of English Vol. 4.

- Japanese vol 5: Mini poster of Roger walking down the street in the snow. This may be the back cover of Enlish Vol. 5.

- Japanese vol 6: Mini poster of Roger,Dorothy and Big O. This may be the back cover of English Vol. 6.

What a mess. I'm so tempted to just get the Japanese versions right now... but probably not really worth it. Maybe I can find a Japanese bookstore and sneak a peek.

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Originally posted by badbob001 Hey BIGMEGA, that was awesome! Thanks. Now it seems like the English version got almost nothing in terms of extras. I am havin trouble find where some of the extras from the english versions came from: - English vol 2's 7 page interview with Katayama, Arita, and Sato. It's titled Paradigm Pub, which may match the one in the japanese vol 3. It's interview #1 and the japanese vol 4. has another interview. Were we cheated out of the second interview? - The bonus comic in the english vol 2 involves Norman and Dorothy. Could that be the comic in the japanese vol 5? -The 10 page gallery in the english vol 2 doesn't seem to match any of the japanese galleries. Could it be unique to the english version? Here are the pages: 1 Dorothy standing with comic panels in background 2 Whitish Big O walking through the streets 3 Action sequence of Big O fighting an enemy 4 Poster of Roger standing in front of a gallery of other casts 5 Poster of Roger running in front of a gallery of enemies 6 Shot of a dark street inside the Dome with Roger in shadows 7 Angel standing with comic panels in background 8 Angel talking to Roger from the top of some stairs 9 Some random panels with Beck, Dorothy, and Soldano 10 Some random panels of the Roger family - Japanese Vol 2: Mini poster of Dorothy in front of Dorothy 1. This may be the back cover of English Vol 2. - Japanese Vol 4: Mini poster of Big O and Big Duo in combat. This may be the back cover of English Vol. 4. - Japanese vol 5: Mini poster of Roger walking down the street in the snow. This may be the back cover of Enlish Vol. 5. - Japanese vol 6: Mini poster of Roger,Dorothy and Big O. This may be the back cover of English Vol. 6. What a mess. I'm so tempted to just get the Japanese versions right now... but probably not really worth it. Maybe I can find a Japanese bookstore and sneak a peek.

I think you're right about the mini posters being on the back cover of the us books but I think they croped them.

The english vol 2 bonous comic is the same as the Japanese vol 2 I think.

the 10 page gallery sounds like the same as the Japanese version but I could be wrong.

Japanese vol 2 interviews kazuyoshi katayama,hitoshi ariga and kehchi sato. japanese volume 3 interviews kazuyoshi katayama,hitoshi ariga and kehchi sato. volume 4 interview is title paradigm cafe and has drawings under the title of Roger Smith,mitsuru miyamoto and hitoshi ariga.
I hope I got all that right.

I don't know for certain but we may have missed an interview.

I have the english volumes but I really do Like having the Japanese books.It's got those little extras I like.Plus the artwork is not flipped.

Maybe I should look at it with fresh eyes tomorrow,well as fresh as they can be after working all day.

Glad I could help out some.

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Originally posted by DOA SOBF I am currently reading the first one, but it seems so much like the first episodes. If it is the same , I see no reason to read it, if I can just watch it with no need to think. If yo havent noticed, Thinking isnt something I like to do

Really, the stories are quite different. You won't be sorry. Trust me, it won't hurt your brain one bit.

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Originally posted by Shady Dark Lady I saved the And forever picture..I love the pictures of the young, scruffy looking Roger..The girl reminded me of Dorothy..I know, just wishful thinking..

I love the scruffy looking Roger too! He's so cute! I've only read the first issue and it was good...... even though they left it at a cliffhanger

Could you please tell me how you got to read the manga. I'd really like to know. How do you read it online?

Strange. I had a Big O manga-related dream this morning:

I was in a Japanese bookstore with my sister. I was looking for vol 6 of the Japanese manga and just found the last copy. I flipped through it and noticed all the exta mini-comics in the end that the english translation didn't get. Then I noitced that the last mini-comic was already translated into english, which made me dream-think, "Those bastards at Viz...". Suddenly, I had an urge to own all the other Japanese volumes, so I began looking. Sadly, there were no copied of Big O left, even in the "secret" storage nook behind the neat rows of books. As I was waiting in line to pay, I spy another manga named Giant Robot, which showed a vintage looking robot updated with a LCD face. I thought, "Nah, not interested."

Then I woke up. Damn, I wonder what other Big O dreams had I been having if I could remember them!

Vol 6 of the manga is really weird. Only got round to reading it today. It felt like the artist had to hurry it up abit.

I just got the Big O manga and Beck's girlfriend kicks ass. I'd like to see her and Angel in a cat fight.

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Originally posted by ImSoAwesome I just got the Big O manga and Beck's girlfriend kicks ass. I'd like to see her and Angel in a cat fight.

Beck's girlfriend's too much of a coward for that, and I'm sure Angel wouldn't bother.

I do like his girlfriend though. She's like a groupie. I wonder if we'll find out her name in Lost Memory?



muchlove
-dork

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Originally posted by ImSoAwesome I just got the Big O manga and Beck's girlfriend kicks ass. I'd like to see her and Angel in a cat fight.

I'm not sure if she would fight Angel. Angel seems to be an alley cat in the Manga series. In contrast, this check seems to be another T-Bone and Dove; same motivation, same lack of pride. So, I believe she would react to Angel in the same fashion as the other henchmen would to Roger and Dorothy, she'll probably run.

I have all six of the manga and a questions haunts my mind.
Why is Roger always sweating? ? I know this is the manga way of saying he's stressing, but really!

Another question I have is if I did some manipulation of manga art, should I post it in the Nightengale or here

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Originally posted by Dork I wonder if we'll find out her name in Lost Memory?

Her name is Yam

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Originally posted by R-Umino quote: Originally posted by Dork I wonder if we'll find out her name in Lost Memory? Her name is Yam

Yam. That's cute.

Where did you find that from?