Guess what I heard!

Sara Comatori 09-06-2006 06:02 PM
This made me almost Sh*t myself....Some school are not allowing Students to enter Anime in Art Contest. The Art Committe doesn't see Anime or Manga as a type of art.

This is going to piss off a whole bunch of D-Art people.
Nine Kuze 09-06-2006 06:29 PM
No.

Also, that's quite odd that they wouldn't allow art from anime or manga into an art contest. Must be because of the narrow-minded view that anime is perverted in someway.

One more thing; which school is this? Is it your school? The first post doesn't really say much about this and I'm just curious is all.
Peace.
Travis Bickle 09-06-2006 08:15 PM
Nobody important or heavily involved in the art world takes DeviantArt seriously, nor likes it. Nothing pertaining to the topic, just pointing it out.
Generalissimo D 09-06-2006 08:34 PM
Comic book guys do.
Travis Bickle 09-06-2006 08:46 PM
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Originally posted by Mr. D
Comic book guys do.


Yeah, but they don't count. Stupid tracers.
Jonny Axehandle 09-06-2006 08:49 PM
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Originally posted by Travis Bickle
Nobody important or heavily involved in the art world takes DeviantArt seriously, nor likes it.


And they should, why?
Travis Bickle 09-06-2006 08:53 PM
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Originally posted by Jonny Axehandle
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Originally posted by Travis Bickle
Nobody important or heavily involved in the art world takes DeviantArt seriously, nor likes it.


And they should, why?


Now you're just being silly.

Btw this thread sucks.
Jonny Axehandle 09-06-2006 09:03 PM
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Originally posted by Travis Bickle
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Originally posted by Jonny Axehandle
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Originally posted by Travis Bickle
Nobody important or heavily involved in the art world takes DeviantArt seriously, nor likes it.


And they should, why?


Now you're just being silly.

Btw this thread sucks.


While I'll admit that there are a few decent artists on dA, a lot are cruddy fan artists and Sonic recolorists. I can't say I blame someone if they don't like it/take it seriously.
Travis Bickle 09-06-2006 09:09 PM
I'm not going to go name dropping and sh** like that to prove my point, but I'm friends with a good artist that sells his paintings for thousands of dollars each, as well as a bunch of artsy kids that go to an art school (Pratt, to be specific). They all denounce DA as nothing more than a myspace for people who can draw (or think they can). It's a phase. Hopefully, it goes away soon.
Hobodoken 09-06-2006 11:10 PM
I like how this thread went from something vauge about art to bashing DA.

On Topic: They could just have something about not using copywriten characters.

On sub-topic: Marvel hired some guy who's got a DA page to design three prominent robot suit things for them, so DA can't be all bad.
David Ryder 09-06-2006 11:11 PM
Seems odd that they wouldn't, but oh well. And for the record, DeviantArt fails.
Sharpshooter005 09-06-2006 11:41 PM
I've heard art students make similar gripes and present a good argument for it, because really if you look at alot (Please note I used the qualifier 'alot' before taking personal offense here) of the stuff people come up with and say 'oh it's manga style!' they're literally just copying existing stuff for the most part in many cases.

So yeah I'm going to have to go with that instead of some grand conspiracy to downplay anime on the part of academia.

edit: Also how does deviantart figure into this.
088nd 09-06-2006 11:44 PM
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Originally posted by Sara Comatori
Some school are not allowing Students to enter Anime in Art Contest.


Good, Anime isn't art. It doesn't have the purpose to make a statement art does. It's just a pictorial form of the storyline being presented.
evanASF27 09-06-2006 11:56 PM
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Originally posted by 088nd
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Originally posted by Sara ComatoriSome school are not allowing Students to enter Anime in Art Contest.


Good, Anime isn't art. It doesn't have the purpose to make a statement art does. It's just a pictorial form of the storyline being presented.

I think what was meant was that the japanese style of drawing (IE manga) is not being allowed in art contests. And that style, may I remind you, can most definately be an art. I don't think we were talking about actual anime shows or manga books being banned, but drawing a portrait or scene in the "anime"/"manga" style.

I think the reason behind the bans are either 1) horrible steriotyping or misunderstanding of the anime/manga style, or 2) they only want realistic art (thus that also rules out any Pablo Picasso fans). Either way I think it was a pretty close-minded thing to do.

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edit: Also how does deviantart figure into this.

DeviantART has become an popular internet hub for displaying artwork, and a good portion of that (or at least *a* portion of that) is anime/manga style drawings, sketches, comics, etc. It's basically *the* place to upload your anime fanart or individual works.
Mugiwara Luffy 09-07-2006 12:45 AM
I was editor for our school's lit mag last year, and we turned down most art submissions that were in anime/manga style. I even overrided a democratic vote for the cover image because it was manga style (hooray for dictatorial lit mag positions!). Anyway, the simple reason is that it is far too overdone nowadays. You see it everywhere. It's cliche. And yes most of it looks very similar.

Anime can be art. Just another category of art. Allowing anime into an art contest cheapens the other submissions, in my opinion. You wouldn't allow "real art" to be submitted to an "anime art" contest, would you? Anime/manga may require just as much time and skill to create, and it may be just as emotional or deep as other artworks, but it is simply a different style. One with a bad reputation, I might add.

Don't waste time trying to explain to laypersons that anime is not all porn and Pokemon. In my experience most people can't get past their paradigms of what a cartoon is or what stereotypical examples they've been exposed to. Just enjoy it.
Jonny Axehandle 09-07-2006 01:02 AM
I might also add, anime is meant to be animated. Animation tends to lack significant detail/shading (unless it is high-budget) because the artists need to draw the same thing several times over.
Mr. Fortnight 09-07-2006 03:01 AM
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Originally posted by Sara Comatori
This made me almost Sh*t myself....Some school are not allowing Students to enter Anime in Art Contest. The Art Committe doesn't see Anime or Manga as a type of art.

This is going to piss off a whole bunch of D-Art people.


Anime isn't classical art. It's a popular art. Most schools want to show how cultured their students are. So, they want what is normally considered art being displayed at their events.

Then again, there is nothing that can be done about it. It's a situation like a school paper. They have every right to control what is there because it reflects upon the school and quite honestly, they run things.

It's just the way it is. Some schools might allow it, some won't. It's just how things are.
Generalissimo D 09-07-2006 06:16 AM
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Originally posted by 088nd
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Originally posted by Sara ComatoriSome school are not allowing Students to enter Anime in Art Contest.


Good, Anime isn't art. It doesn't have the purpose to make a statement art does. It's just a pictorial form of the storyline being presented.
Inigo Montoya 09-07-2006 03:06 PM
Ehh... I already sent in my portfolio to Marvel, DC, and Image.

I'm starting a job with Dark Horse, which sucks since they hired me only a couple weeks before basic (luckily the Army guarantees me the same job upon return), and it seems that if I get hired by Marvel, I may end up being a back-up penciller for their Marvel Mangaverse.

The fact is, it's not quite overdone, as some styles are markedly different. Some people heartily dislike Akira Toriyama's art style, but you have to hand it to him... it's completely unique.

Similarily, more and more Western artists are copying Jack Kirby's art style for a more nostalgic classic comic feel.

For the record, noone can draw Kirby-style except Kirby, and he died in '94. He will forever remain a comic legend.
Wazpy 09-08-2006 10:04 AM
I wouldn't let anime into my art contest. I like people who have their own unique style rather than copying manga and anime.

Of course, that's my own personal contest in which none of you are invited. *Points up nose*