Favorite Pairings

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Originally posted by SpodermanBut all I'm asking is does it belong here.

Yes, it does. It does because we want fangirls in the forums (or, at least, I do. I like fangirls!), and fangirls tend to be more interested in relationships and romance than in lasers and fistfights. Some of these relationships are yaoi. So what? I personally think that Roger/Dorothy/Angel is a pretty attractive grouping. Different strokes for different folks.

Personally, I like both the relationship stuff and the combat stuff. (For example, I think CARDCAPTOR SAKURA is a great show, with much better characterization and even better combat than many combat-oriented series). Without the relationships, BIG O would be little more than an extended demolition derby.

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Realize that Big O is a cartoon. None of the characters are real. Moreover, Big O is not a show that centers on relationships. It is a drama that draws strength from character relationships, but by no means do they define the series.

Sure they do. The entire show is about relationships -- the relationships between those with immense amounts of power and those without, the relationships between megadeus, android and human, the relationships between men and women.

The theme of Roger and Dorothy's mutual attraction -- and Roger's denial of it -- was introduced unmistakably in Act 1 and evolves throughout both seasons. Almost every episode advances it in one way or another. The competing Roger/Angel pairing is almost as hard to miss.

Personally, I found Beck's relationship with Dorothy to be fascinating, too. When Beck was released from prison to fix Big Fau, the idea of cannibalizing Dorothy for spare parts appalled him and he tried to wiggle out of it. He appeared in Smith Manor in Act 26 as a mourner. I think he fell in love with Dorothy somewhere along the line, but never quite admitted it to himself.

These tangled webs were essential to the outcome of Act 26. Had Beck not felt compelled to visit Dorothy's as she lay in state in Smith Manor, he wouldn't have been there to tell her what he'd learned about how androids and Megadeuses interoperated -- which means no Final Stage, and Big Fau wins the fight.

If anyone but Roger had talked to Angel like a dutch uncle in those last moments before the Reset, she would have done things differently. But (as you can tell from all the images of Roger on the console), Angel is the ultimate fangirl, and she has a hard time resisting his orders.

Anyway, a great many Big O fans find the relationships and the real or potential romances to be central to the enjoyment of the show. You don't have to agree if you don't want to, but you might consider being reasonably polite about it. People get banned for trolling and flaming around here.

I think someone needs to Push the Button, dont you, Dan?

Okay.

I am going to admit, rather frankly, that I agree with a lot of what Spoderman said. Certainly not all of it, but he raises several valid points, and I really do not believe he deserves to be attacked because of them. I am not entirely sure that he was indeed attacked for them, but there has certainly been considerable backlash nonetheless.

This seems, to me, to be a perfectly innocent thread by nature. Actually, I should rephrase that. This seems to me to be a perfectly neutral thread by nature, as many are. Very few threads are inherently "good" or "bad," and fewer still are universally "good" or "bad."

...God, I feel like a postmodernist now. And I despise postmodernism.

Nevertheless...Spoderman, your points are well noted. You are perfectly entitled to your viewpoints, and you are perfectly entitled to voice your viewpoints, as you have. I am not entirely convinced that this is the particular thread for voicing those viewpoints, but I cannot exactly fault you for topic-drifting since it does happen all the time, in almost every thread I have ever viewed (and I have viewed...a large majority of the threads on this forum, and have viewed several threads in other forums as well).

Likewise, everyone is perfectly entitled to agree or disagree with Spoderman, to criticize or support his viewpoints. Everyone is perfectly entitled to express these sentiments, if done respectfully and intelligently (such as Sharpshooter, to provide an example, has done).

I am going to borrow a leaf from Krang's book to resolve this situation, however. If you would like to participate in serious discussion invovling Big O, Spoderman, I strongly encourage you to start or participate in a thread that has that as its very purpose. While I did say just two paragraphs ago that you certainly have the capability to dispute or criticize particular threads, at the same time I do not think that is necessarily the right (or even effective) course of action.

So, in the future, if there is a thread that you do not like, or a thread that you find silly, or anything of the sort, just ignore it. You certainly do not have to view and post in every thread on these forums. At the same time, feel free to start threads in order to advance and encourage the sort of discussion you enjoy and are looking for: I assure you, you are not the only person who wants to partake in serious discussion. Everyone does have their own particular tastes and interests, and (in this thread, particularly), I do not think anyone has crossed the line in expressing them.

...so, to briefly summarize, I think the discussion regarding the seriousness/silliness of this thread (and discussion overall) should desist now. Likewise, criticizm of fanbases (both in general and for Big O specifically) should also desist here. No one will be punished for their actions here, although if similar situations occur in the future, I will not hesitate to recommend warnings for members who are unable to participate in intelligent, respectful discussion.

Do note that intelligent discussion does not necessarily have to be serious; it can likewise be silly. Ultimately, it is the moderators and administrators who can (and will) officially be the judges of when a thread (and its posts) fail to meet either criteria, but if one has an opinion on the matter he or she is encouraged to express them to me or any other moderator or either administrator.

I am pleased that some individuals were able to address this situation intelligently and respectfully. I would encourage that, in the future, that if a similar problem ever arises again, just immediately come to me (as one member did), rather than participate and make things worse. Some of you did that, some of you did not. When in doubt, just go to a moderator or an administrator, and he or she will gladly take care of the situation.

...I think that clears everything up, but if there are any questions or comments, feel free to direct them to me through private message, instant message, or e-mail.

Oh, by the way, this thread is still open, and its intended discussion can continue: I just do not want discussion of this topic as a topic to continue.

we went from favorite pairings to arguing the many aspect of anime fandom? Hurray?

That ain't true. Sounds like you need to GALVANIZE, Gaddes.

I tell you, if more people would just Push the Button like Zaphod and I do, we'd all be able to forget our troubles and the world would be a better place.

AHEM:

Eugene and Pero. H4wt.

what button do you speak of as I'm quite out of it right now.

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That ain't true.

Not from what I've seen, however this thread is about pairings. so anywho back on topic, I suppose.

Press the link in the post, write a silly name to start playing, Press the Button, and Galvanize. Simple as that.

AHEM:
Eugene and Pero. H4wt.

I thank you for you help. I started this thread for fun, as I mentioned before. I am utterly amazed ot how off-track if flew...

Honestly, I try to have a little fun, and before I know it, I'm getting into arguments...Huzzah! I'm still a partial newbie, and I already have seen the dark side of these forums...

Look for me on other forums! Likely, the threads will be about random topics of al sorts.

Now...CAN WE GET BACK TO THE PAIRINGS, PLEASE?

Hehehe, Dorothy and Pero AFTER Pero was integrated into Chimera. When Chimera stroked Dorothy's cheek with its tentacle-thingy, I just knew they were a match made in heaven.

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Press the link in the post

oh oh. Me = dumb, I need sleep haha.

Eugene x Manticore monster thing slash fic ZOMG!!!1111

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Originally posted by R. Daniel Olk 01 Press the link in the post, write a silly name to start playing, Press the Button, and Galvanize. Simple as that. AHEM: Eugene and Pero. H4wt.

Those rabbits were infuriating, the right one, I swear, can only be hit by complete luck.

...I'm only going to ask once. Please get back on topic, or this time I will close the thread.

Hot Angel on Dorothy action, eh?

You people scare me. And Zaphod can attest I'm not usually scared by these things.

I think I'll just take the usual relationships... Except Angel and Dastun. That one seems off for some reason I can't put my finger on.

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Originally posted by X Prime You people scare me. And Zaphod can attest I'm not usually scared by these things. I think I'll just take the usual relationships... Except Angel and Dastun. That one seems off for some reason I can't put my finger on.

Seconded. It's just too "hey, let's stick these two together for convenience's sake" for me. Like I said, I have a certain belief that poor Angel, whether she wants or deserves it or not, is fated to go it alone.

I'm not going to deny they have some scenes, but other than that I'm not convinced.

Mr. Wise + Bonnie's Mom. Old folks need love, too.

..Making threats on a forum.

I'm sorry, but come on. I'm no admin here, but damn, you know better than that.

Oh, and a 'WTF' goes out to Randolph.

As far as the villains are concerned, most of them are too crazy to have long-term relationships -- or even much of a short-term one. Alan and R.D. make a cute couple, but both of them tend to kill on the first date!

Vera/Schwarzwald -- the two are a lot a like, with similar styles of ranting and raving, and they're probably both pyromaniacs, but ... ick!

Alex is too narcissitic to be any fun.

Beck is less crazy than the other villains. He has a lot in common with Angel. A Beck/Angel pairing would be fun, since they'd bicker all the time, interfere with each other's crimes etc.

When I was writing my fanfiction, I had a lot of trouble making Roger/Dorothy interesting. Once the two of them are together, it's "Happily Ever After" time -- too little conflict and tension remains to make them a lot of fun to write about.

I don't think Vera/Schwarzy'd work too well... Vera's all about bringing power to the Union, while Schwarzy just hates how things are done.