Eureka SeveN

you need to find another hobby. Maturity would seem to be something in short supply these days.

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Originally posted by Ltwhipporwill Oh wait every body did b/c [as] is a bunch of butt holes.

It's been three days, let it go.

Also all this stuff about a water covered planet that posesses sentience is giving me this major "solaris" vibe (I mean...the original tarkovsky solaris, not that soderbergh remake which I didnt see)

hey, anybody remember the rings from epi 43 sunshine underground?
Well anyway the ring inside the rock said: R to E. Then Renton pulled Charles' ring out and it said: R to C. When I finally saw what the rings said a light went on in my head saying Bones hide something here. Did we go over this? If not I'd like to hear what you guys think about it.

Get It By Your Hands

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Originally posted by Sharpshooter005 quote: Originally posted by Ltwhipporwill Oh wait every body did b/c [as] is a bunch of butt holes. It's been three days, let it go. Also all this stuff about a water covered planet that posesses sentience is giving me this major "solaris" vibe (I mean...the original tarkovsky solaris, not that soderbergh remake which I didnt see)

One, I didn't see it either but Steven Soderbergh is an amazing director.

Two, yeah that's basically what Eureka Seven is. Add in hippies and the threat of the entire universe being destroyed if an albino alien and a battle tested emo don't announce their love of each other. Also, surfing mecha. I made that pretty negative, but... it's not REALLY that bad. REALLY.

Three, still pissed off about the April's Fools gimmick? It's been almost a week now, I'm just saying.

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Originally posted by Valdoom hey, anybody remember the rings from epi 43 sunshine underground? Well anyway the ring inside the rock said: R to E. Then Renton pulled Charles' ring out and it said: R to C. When I finally saw what the rings said a light went on in my head saying Bones hide something here. Did we go over this? If not I'd like to hear what you guys think about it. Get It By Your Hands

Don't remember the episode, no. But I'd wager that the ring is like a transistion for Renten into coming into his own learning to love Eureka the same way that Charles loved Ray. Renten saw Charles as a father figure, so it kind of makes sense (sort of) that the ring Renten would have for Eureka would be the same that Charles had for Ray.

Also because of you, I downloaded and I'm listening to the Get It By Your Hands theme... and I like it. Bad form Valdoom, bad form.
Peace.

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I'm very confused about the whole sister thing. I'm thinking she got swollowed by the scub coral. She was in Acperiance 1.(which has a close resembelence to the Earth Eureka and Renton are on.) then she appears there at the Corralian core. How did she beat them to the genuine promised land? I say she didn't, at least not as a whole. I think her mind is there, but...I hope you get the idea.

I think its actually Diana, all of her... and I'm pretty sure his father is there as well. I don't know where you got the implication that she was swallowed by the scub coral since I don't even think they showed that at anytime. She left for research and to finish her father's work is all. And besides, they just showed her for the last two seconds and more is to be revealed in the next episode, so yeah.
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We were both right. They were in the Coralian Core, but only as mind and soul. All I need is a little more evidence to prove it, but I think that the people who fall ill to desperation disease are the people who end up in the library. We can see that if Adroch is there, that certantly isn't the only way to get there, but I don't think Diana would have gotten desperation disease either. I need more time to think about this.

VD

Ok, from saturdays episode, I got that everyone was going to try join together with the coral, to become one being. And then so on and whatever, so everyone's going to become a rock, like Eureka. Weird, but hey what you gonna do.
And this sounds a lot like the Human Instrumentality Project from Evangelion, were all the souls would be taken to form one being inside of Rei.
Eureka's already got the wings, I'll laugh it off if at the end she's holding the Earth up at the end of this thing. Then I can say Evangelion isn't as stupid and dumb as some of you say.

just a question, but could we talk about Eureka Seven... in the "Eureka Seven" post? What you have to say about Eva is nice, but not here. It was bad before, it's still bad. As for episode 47 every where I look I see people saying it sucked and people saying it was perfect what do you guys think? (about Eureka Seven.)

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Originally posted by Valdoom quote: Originally posted by Nine XXVI quote: I'm very confused about the whole sister thing. I'm thinking she got swollowed by the scub coral. She was in Acperiance 1.(which has a close resembelence to the Earth Eureka and Renton are on.) then she appears there at the Corralian core. How did she beat them to the genuine promised land? I say she didn't, at least not as a whole. I think her mind is there, but...I hope you get the idea. I think its actually Diana, all of her... and I'm pretty sure his father is there as well. I don't know where you got the implication that she was swallowed by the scub coral since I don't even think they showed that at anytime. She left for research and to finish her father's work is all. And besides, they just showed her for the last two seconds and more is to be revealed in the next episode, so yeah. Peace. We were both right. They were in the Coralian Core, but only as mind and soul. All I need is a little more evidence to prove it, but I think that the people who fall ill to desperation disease are the people who end up in the library. We can see that if Adroch is there, that certantly isn't the only way to get there, but I don't think Diana would have gotten desperation disease either. I need more time to think about this. VD

Fix'd that quote for you. Wow, you messed that up.

Anyway, I don't know what you're going on about "evidence" but you do make a good point about Diana and the rest there already taking that next step in fusing with the Correlians (that explains Diana's cooky behavior). I was laughing my ass off when Diana explained that another universe will appear when this current universe is destroyed by the limit of questions. That just sounds so... trival and stereotypical. Alternate dimensions? What is this, Marvel Comics?

Also, I knew that Adrock would be appearing here but its a nice touch that he didn't say anything.

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Originally posted by Valdoom just a question, but could we talk about Eureka Seven... in the "Eureka Seven" post? What you have to say about Eva is nice, but not here. It was bad before, it's still bad. As for episode 47 every where I look I see people saying it sucked and people saying it was perfect what do you guys think? (about Eureka Seven.)

Um, it was neither. It was a good episode but nothing went any further as far as the actual action goes between the Army and Gekko State and such.

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Originally posted by Heavy Metal Instro Ok, from saturdays episode, I got that everyone was going to try join together with the coral, to become one being. And then so on and whatever, so everyone's going to become a rock, like Eureka. Weird, but hey what you gonna do. And this sounds a lot like the Human Instrumentality Project from Evangelion, were all the souls would be taken to form one being inside of Rei. Eureka's already got the wings, I'll laugh it off if at the end she's holding the Earth up at the end of this thing. Then I can say Evangelion isn't as stupid and dumb as some of you say.

What are you talking about?
Peace.

Kinda what I thought...people said they didn't like this one. At the moment I'm really pissed off because my stupid friend just about ruined the ending of Eureka seven for me. (don't worry I'd never do that to you guys)
If the episode sucked I'll ask some questions instead.
I have a question, which is better "The Limit of Questions" or "The Limit of Life"? For those of you who don't know "The Limit of Life" is what the sub version of Eureka seven refers to as the end of the universe. Which do you prefer? "The Limit of Life" makes sense because of it's the limit of sentient life in the universe. However, I prefer to call it "The Limit of Questions". I prefer it because the Limit to which they are refering to isn't simpily just a limit of life, but a limit of sentient life, Which was only surpassed becasue the Scab Coral became the size of the Earth, and copied every bit of information on Earth to be found. Which do you think is better?

For you science nerds or people with above a high school education. How did the Scab Coral get to be the size of the Earth? Quite clearly Earth was still intact with Miles of Scab Coral all around it. The Law of Conservation of Matter and Energy clearly states this is impossible. However, (sorry, not perfect quotes)Norb once said that "the powers of the 7th Plane affect the Third plane in ways we can not imagine." Doctor Bear said this: "In other words thoughts carry energy." Even if this is so, it takes huge ammounts of energy just to make a few atoms of matter. Where did all of the matter that is the Scab Coral come from? (I'm not trying to say Eureka Seven is bad because it's not possble, I just think this could make a good discussion.)

Evidence= If I had seen the woman form World's End Garden ep. 25, It would have been enough evidence to prove where despertion diseased people's minds go.

double post!?! Call the UN!!!

seriously...no responses?

Okay, new question. Why did Eureka grow wings? As I understand it the Scab Coral that created Eureka, created her for the purpose of communicating with humans, but why turn her left arm green and give her wings? After a bit of thinking on the question I came up with only one answer. To test Renton's, and maybe the kids love. All in all this seemed a poor way to achieve this from my point of view. Although Eureka growing wings did achieve what I said, I don’t think that I'm right. Also, After listening to the "to be countinued" of episode 45 I heard this: "The girl who is awakened to her true figure, arrives before the future beside the boy. next episode: Planet Rock"

Anyone have any ideas or responses?

That was a great Episode. Anemone talking at the start of the episode and her interactions during the rest of the episode finally brought us much needed insight into her character. All in all I liked that she solved her own problem, something I thought she was going to be solved by Domonic knocking sense in to her. TheEnd finally had a moment to be sentient. That was a nice addition to the story, but then TheEnd had to sacrafice it's self to save Anemone and Domonic.

Despite how great this episode was, It was quite good, I have just but one thought... wasn't someone suppose to save the Control Cluster at some point? I kept thinking that maybe Holland and Jergens would take out Oritorio #8 of destroy a gustave or two. Maybe Renton and Eureka with a 7th swell thing, or Renton, Eureka, Domonic, and Anemone together with some 7th Swell thing, but nothing happened. No one saved the day...or the Universe.

However, I did notice that if you compare the Control Cluster to the end of episode 46 and to episode 48, the rainbow coloration was gone. I think The Control Cluster might have gone and moved everything that makes it the Control Cluster else where. We'll see, I thought the control Cluster looked very incinerated to me, but The universe didn't end yet, so we'll see what will happen next.

Hey three posts ! Not good.


Do whatever you want anyway

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Originally posted by Valdoom That was a great Episode. Anemone talking at the start of the episode and her interactions during the rest of the episode finally brought us much needed insight into her character. All in all I liked that she solved her own problem, something I thought she was going to be solved by Domonic knocking sense in to her. TheEnd finally had a moment to be sentient. That was a nice addition to the story, but then TheEnd had to sacrafice it's self to save Anemone and Domonic.

A little bit over the top at times, but yeah that was a nice touch. The same like when Ray was humming that whole episode when she was killed. Also the fight seqeunce with The End and Nirvash was nicely done cinematic wise.

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Originally posted by Valdoom Despite how great this episode was, It was quite good, I have just but one thought... wasn't someone suppose to save the Control Cluster at some point? I kept thinking that maybe Holland and Jergens would take out Oritorio #8 of destroy a gustave or two. Maybe Renton and Eureka with a 7th swell thing, or Renton, Eureka, Domonic, and Anemone together with some 7th Swell thing, but nothing happened. No one saved the day...or the Universe.

See here, I don't know what you are talking about here. And its not from your bad spelling either, its from the fact that the show has done a rather medicore job at explaining the aspects of the finer details in the whole picture regarding the end of the universe (which here is horribly stupid anyway). Like for example, what the hell was the Control Cluster and why was it important.

And this is from someone whose been watching the entire series up till now so far.

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Originally posted by Valdoom double post!?! Call the UN!!! seriously...no responses? Okay, new question. Why did Eureka grow wings? As I understand it the Scab Coral that created Eureka, created her for the purpose of communicating with humans, but why turn her left arm green and give her wings? After a bit of thinking on the question I came up with only one answer. To test Renton's, and maybe the kids love. All in all this seemed a poor way to achieve this from my point of view. Although Eureka growing wings did achieve what I said, I don’t think that I'm right. Also, After listening to the "to be countinued" of episode 45 I heard this: "The girl who is awakened to her true figure, arrives before the future beside the boy. next episode: Planet Rock" Anyone have any ideas or responses?

I just thought she was evolving with the whole wings and green arm outfit there. Ever since she met Renten, she's been evolving into a higher being of sorts and that's necessary to save the universe (you gotta be kiddin' me with that noise) by loving and coming to contact with a human. In this case Renten, so that's what I think it means. Also, not a bad idea on the "test their love" front though.

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Originally posted by Valdoom We'll see, I thought the control Cluster looked very incinerated to me, but The universe didn't end yet, so we'll see what will happen next.

They are taking their sweet time in the final battle between the World Army and Gekko State though, but it finally looks like they'll get to that in the next episode and such.

And 3 consecutive posts, you loose cannon?
Peace.

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Originally posted by Nine XXVI See here, I don't know what you are talking about here. And its not from your bad spelling either, its from the fact that the show has done a rather medicore job at explaining the aspects of the finer details in the whole picture regarding the end of the universe (which here is horribly stupid anyway). Like for example, what the hell was the Control Cluster and why was it important. And this is from someone whose been watching the entire series up till now so far.

you do understand that the scubs are hibernating, right? If the control cluster is destroyed it will cause all the rest of the scubs to wake up all at once. If that happens the limit of questions will be reached and everyone will die. That's why they needed to protect the control cluster. Which they didn't do...not well enough anyway...

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Originally posted by Nine XXVI They are taking their sweet time in the final battle between the World Army and Gekko State though, but it finally looks like they'll get to that in the next episode and such. And 3 consecutive posts, you loose cannon? Peace.

sorry about that...really sorry.
However, look at the dates of the posts. It's not my fault no one reponded to anything I said.

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Originally posted by Valdoom quote: Originally posted by Nine XXVI See here, I don't know what you are talking about here. And its not from your bad spelling either, its from the fact that the show has done a rather medicore job at explaining the aspects of the finer details in the whole picture regarding the end of the universe (which here is horribly stupid anyway). Like for example, what the hell was the Control Cluster and why was it important. And this is from someone whose been watching the entire series up till now so far. you do understand that the scubs are hibernating, right? If the control cluster is destroyed it will cause all the rest of the scubs to wake up all at once. If that happens the limit of questions will be reached and everyone will die. That's why they needed to protect the control cluster. Which they didn't do...not well enough anyway...

Okay see, you just explained this plot better than the actual series in wasting like twenty episodes or something. Yeah, I knew about the Scubs resting and that the Limit of Questions was coming fast. I just didn't know about the Control Cluster is all and its inital purpose.

Even though I spoiled myself on the series a while ago, I still don't understand what's going on at times. I blame the direction.

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Originally posted by Valdoom quote: Originally posted by Nine XXVI They are taking their sweet time in the final battle between the World Army and Gekko State though, but it finally looks like they'll get to that in the next episode and such. And 3 consecutive posts, you loose cannon? Peace. sorry about that...really sorry. However, look at the dates of the posts. It's not my fault no one reponded to anything I said.

Nah, don't worry about it. Happens to the best of us.
Peace.

So Anemones LFO or whatever its called turned from black (which I presume was evil) to white (which I take is good), Just in time to be destroyed by Deweys weapon, so what exactly are they trying to do? Kill the scubs to try to reclaim the earth?

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Originally posted by Ltwhipporwill So Anemones LFO or whatever its called turned from black (which I presume was evil) to white (which I take is good), Just in time to be destroyed by Deweys weapon, so what exactly are they trying to do? Kill the scubs to try to reclaim the earth?

Yes, exactly that. And Holland, the Gekko State and the turncoats of the World Army are trying to stop them as Renten and Eureka try to "become one" to save the material universe and all.

...that's still damn weak for me. The threat of the universe thing thrown in there like that and all.
Peace.

I know, its weird.

puts some urgentse on it though. I'd care a little bit more about saving anything and everything then saving something smaller... That and this is why quantum physics is so complicated.

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Originally posted by Valdoom puts some urgentse on it though. I'd care a little bit more about saving anything and everything then saving something smaller...

Yeah but just stepping back and realizing its a bunch of stoned out hippies with surfing mechas saving the physical being of the universe, it just sounds over the top. Even for the medium of anime.

Anyway with that being said, the newest episode kicked ass. Just the scenes with Holland fighting the Ganya was damn good and Holland and Dewey fighting was good as well. The plot twist was good, and finally, a device in the plot that actually worked out. Dewey killing himself to pretty much destroy the world and then that... thing that happened to Eureka and Anemone really made things interesting.

So last episode coming up and the world is ending and such. I know how it ends, but since they focus on Renten and Eureka for the majority of the time, I don't know what happens to Holland, Talho and the rest of the Gekko State afterwards.
Peace.