Isaac Hayes(Chef's VA) quits South Park *General SP Thread*

R.Smith 03-20-2006 12:18 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11812699/

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Scientologist Isaac Hayes quits ‘South Park’
Co-creator of show says singer had no trouble mocking Christians

Isaac Hayes says he can no longer stomach "South Park's" jokes about religion.

Updated: 4:49 p.m. ET March 13, 2006

NEW YORK - Isaac Hayes has quit “South Park,” where he voices Chef, saying he can no longer stomach its take on religion.

Hayes, who has played the ladies’ man/school cook in the animated Comedy Central satire since 1997, said in a statement Monday that he feels a line has been crossed.

“There is a place in this world for satire, but there is a time when satire ends and intolerance and bigotry towards religious beliefs of others begins,” the 63-year-old soul singer and outspoken Scientologist said.
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“Religious beliefs are sacred to people, and at all times should be respected and honored,” he continued. “As a civil rights activist of the past 40 years, I cannot support a show that disrespects those beliefs and practices.”


Who’s right, ‘South Park’ or Isaac Hayes?

“South Park” co-creator Matt Stone responded sharply in an interview with The Associated Press Monday, saying, “This is 100 percent having to do with his faith of Scientology... He has no problem — and he’s cashed plenty of checks — with our show making fun of Christians.”

Last November, “South Park” targeted the Church of Scientology and its celebrity followers, including actors Tom Cruise and John Travolta, in a top-rated episode called “Trapped in the Closet.” In the episode, Stan, one of the show’s four mischievous fourth graders, is hailed as a reluctant savior by Scientology leaders, while a cartoon Cruise locks himself in a closet and won’t come out.

Stone told The AP he and co-creator Trey Parker “never heard a peep out of Isaac in any way until we did Scientology. He wants a different standard for religions other than his own, and to me, that is where intolerance and bigotry begin.”


Hmmm, that's really a shame. Chef was a great character, but I admit I haven't seen him in too many of the recent episodes. Oh Well
Nine Kuze 03-20-2006 12:25 PM
Yeah, Sharpie already brought up news about Issac Hayes leaving in my Daily Hustler thread. You can check out what he reported here:

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Originally posted by Sharpshooter005
Not movie, but t.v. news (though the people responsible all have credits in some films)

Issac Hayes quits South Park. Possibly hypocrisy? In a situation involving a scientologist! STUNNING!

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"There is a place in this world for satire, but there is a time when satire ends and intolerance and bigotry towards religious beliefs of others begins," the 63-year-old soul singer and outspoken Scientologist said.

"Religious beliefs are sacred to people, and at all times should be respected and honored," he continued. "As a civil rights activist of the past 40 years, I cannot support a show that disrespects those beliefs and practices."


First off they rarely mock the belief itself, usually just misuse of a faith or really blatant faux pas. Though Scientology did get raked over the coals a bit more...

Possibly because dianetics was masqueraded as a self-help book initially until Hubbard saw that a church would mean more money and more tax breaks, the fact the entire beief structure is based around money (this isn't "pass the collection plate", it's "the only way up is through writing that check"). And that Hubbard even blatantly stated to a friend it would be a 'great con'. But yeah other than THAT...So unfair of Parker and Stone. Roll Eyes

Anywho, the response though sort of puts this in perspective I think.

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South Park" co-creator Matt Stone responded sharply in an interview with The Associated Press Monday, saying, "This is 100 percent having to do with his faith of Scientology... He has no problem -- and he's cashed plenty of checks -- with our show making fun of Christians."

Stone told The AP he and co-creator Trey Parker "never heard a peep out of Isaac in any way until we did Scientology. He wants a different standard for religions other than his own, and to me, that is where intolerance and bigotry begin."


In closing:



I wonder if Hayes will ever get to fully cleanse himself of Thetans without the steady gig.

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I think he was probably in it.


No, he wasn't. Before it aired, the synopsis mentioned an "r&b star", many assumed Hayes was breaking with the scientology herd and actively poking fun at it. But the r&b star thing turned out to be the R. Kelly gag.

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It was an amazing episode, though.


Easily one of the gutsiest moves I've seen pulled on t.v. as far as satire in a long while. I can't really think of any other show thats done something that...well, the adjective ballsy is all that truly fits.

Then again...Sticking to political figures and celebrities is, at worst, like staring down a speeding volkswagon jetta. Doing it to Scientology is like playing chicken with a Sherman tank.

Though when you've got viacom backing you up (they own comedy central), you can have a slightly more cavalier attitude.

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Scientology once again ruins something.


In all honesty this dosen't surprise me, there had been increasingly fewer appearances of Chef. This just sort of sealed it.

It's a loss but...not a huge one AT ALL.

Besides, this could make for even better comedy if they feel like it.

What Scientology COULD theoretically ruin is the simpsons (yeah yeah "whats left to ruin", not my point) since the voice of...bart and a couple of other characters is one of theirs. Hence why if you look at the "movementarian" episode...it's got some undertones of scientology, but they steer far from really mentioning it. Thats why you'll never see an episode on that show referencing it, or probably anything too closely related.

Example. The Tom Cruise couch thing...ripe for parody. Especially since admittedly the simpsons IS prone to jumping on media events like that as of late, they could even have made the episodic "couch gag" revolve around it. They haven't...not to assume but...

Three guesses why not.

Peace.
R.Smith 03-20-2006 12:28 PM
Whoops, sorry Nine XXVI didn't see it! Embarrassed Sweatdrop

Well in that case this can be closed/deleted. Smile
Green_Bird 03-20-2006 06:24 PM
Well since the post is here and it's easier then finding Sharpshooter's post in the Daily Hustler thread...but Isaac Hayes is now saying that he didn't really quit the show....

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Isaac Hayes did not quit "South Park." My sources say that someone quit it for him.

I can tell you that Hayes is in no position to have quit anything. Contrary to news reports, the great writer, singer and musician suffered a stroke on Jan. 17. At the time it was said that he was hospitalized and suffering from exhaustion.

It’s also absolutely ridiculous to think that Hayes, who loved playing Chef on "South Park," would suddenly turn against the show because they were poking fun at Scientology.

Last November, when the “Trapped in a Closet” episode of the comedy aired, I saw Hayes and spent time with him in Memphis for the annual Blues Ball.

If he hated the show so much, I doubt he would have performed his trademark hit song from the show, “Chocolate Salty Balls.” He tossed the song into the middle of one of his less salacious hits and got the whole audience in the Memphis Pyramid to sing along.

I can tell you, Hayes was very pleased with himself, was in a great mood and, as always, loved his fans' coming up to him and asking him about Chef.

As recently as early January, before his stroke, Hayes defended the "South Park" creators in an interview with “The AV Club,” the serious side of the satirical newspaper, The Onion.

AV Club: They did just do an episode that made fun of your religion, Scientology. Did that bother you?

Hayes: Well, I talked to Matt [Stone] and Trey [Parker] about that. They didn't let me know until it was done. I said, 'Guys, you have it all wrong. We're not like that. I know that's your thing, but get your information correct, because somebody might believe that [expletive], you know?' But I understand what they're doing. I told them to take a couple of Scientology courses and understand what we do. [Laughs.]

The truth is, Hayes has a sly sense of humor and loves everything about "South Park." It’s provided him a much-needed income stream since losing the royalties to the many hits he’s written, such as “Shaft” and “Soul Man,” in the mid-1970s.

Even though he’s one of America’s most prolific hit writers, Hayes has been denied access to profits from his own material for almost 30 years.

But it’s hard to know anything since Hayes, like Katie Holmes, is constantly monitored by a Scientologist representative most of the time. Luckily, at the Blues Ball he was on his own, partying just with family and friends. He was very excited about having gotten married and about the impending birth of a new child.

Friends in Memphis tell me that Hayes did not issue any statements on his own about South Park. They are mystified.

“Isaac’s been concentrating on his recuperation for the last two and a half, three months,” a close friend told me.

Hayes did not suffer paralysis, but the mild stroke may have affected his speech and his memory. He’s been having home therapy since it happened.

That certainly begs the question of who issued the statement that Hayes was quitting "South Park" now because it mocked Scientology four months ago. If it wasn’t Hayes, then who would have done such a thing?

Meantime, Tom Cruise may have gotten Comedy Central to pull its repeat of "South Park"'s Scientology spoof last week, but the result is that episode is all over the Web. You can see it for free at youtube.com.

Not only that, the Comedy Central Web site has four clips from the 21-minute show. And it also says that “Trapped in the Closet” will air this Wednesday at 10 p.m.

So whether or not Cruise actually did use influence at Viacom/Paramount to get the show pulled from last week’s schedule, here it is, bigger and better than ever. Of course, no one would have cared one way or another if “Trapped” simply had aired on schedule.

Of course, no one could blame Cruise, John Travolta or even R&B singer R. Kelly for being upset about the episode. They are poked fun at mercilessly.

In the episode, Stan, one of the "South Park" characters, is solicited into Scientology. He gives them $240 and takes an EMeter test. This convinces the higher-ups that Stan is the reincarnation of the group’s founder, L. Ron Hubbard.

That would be bad enough, wouldn’t it? But Cruise visits Stan in his bedroom and winds up hiding in his closet when Stan tells him he’s not the greatest actor. Thus is born the line “Tom Cruise won’t come out of the closet.”

It’s repeated dozens of times. Travolta soon joins Cruise in Stan’s closet. He won’t come out, either. And when they do, there is the ecstatic announcement that they’ve “come out of the closet.”

You get the picture. But nothing in “Trapped in the Closet” is any worse than anything "South Park" creators Stone and Parker have done before. Just rent “Team America” and see what I mean.


From: Fox News
Hobodoken 03-20-2006 10:30 PM
*gasp*

It seems that Isaac Hayes didn't quit, loves the show, knew about the Scientology satire (after the episode was made, but before aired), and such. He's had a stroke, and has been recuperating for some time.


If this is true, I must say I no longer feel a desire to beat him with a sack of sweet, valencia oranges.
088nd 03-20-2006 10:38 PM
Couldn't this have been put in the other thread?

[Edit: Thanks, threads merged. --Krang]
Sharpshooter005 03-20-2006 11:39 PM
I'm four kinds of confused now.

They're now running a promo for the season premire on Wednesday, new episode...with chef in it apparently.

The only line he delivers is "HELLO THERE CHILDREN!" so maybe they just pulled it from an old episode? Or he actually didn't quit? Or he did, and they're bringing the character back long enough to kill him off?

Oh well, we'll know soon enough.
David Ryder 03-20-2006 11:46 PM
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they're bringing the character back long enough to kill him off?


Isaac Hayes: "They killed chef and he's black, that's racist!"

But really, I'm with sharp on this one, I'm extreamly confused.
Nine Kuze 03-21-2006 03:12 PM
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Originally posted by Gaddes
Isaac Hayes: "They killed chef and he's black, that's racist!"


If he really said that, then that's really sad and making the rest of us look bad. But then again, he's a follower of Scientology so I'll just chalk it up to that.

Anyway, here's more news on the Hayes/South Park situation, what the creators think, and how Tommy Cruise is fightin' South Park.
Peace.
David Ryder 03-21-2006 04:23 PM
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If he really said that, then that's really sad


he didn't, I was just tossing one of my uber lame jokes around XD.

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he's a follower of Scientology


yeah, I'd pretty much not pay attention to anything they say, they are crazy.Now we have tom wanting episodes off the air because he can't take a joke.
Sharpshooter005 03-21-2006 06:07 PM
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they are crazy.


Don't let the brainwashed alien space ghosts in volcanos thing fool you. This isn't "ha ha look at the weird UFO religion" (theres a couple of UFO religions which really are basically just harmless and sort of kooky), this is all money. And the avenue to get that money is control.

You have to pay your way up the ladder to "erase the thetans", part of this process involves divulging very personal secrets..and yeah, thats often tape recorded and stored. Blackmail basically, as in "leave and this tape might get out".

Then theres how they targeted an anti-cult support group, sued it into oblivion, then brought it out. Which is frankly a bit scary. Same with their narcotics rehab program. They basically have a swarm of confused, unstable, desperate people flocking right into their arms. People more than willing to hurl money at this if it'll fix their problems.

Suspected involvements in homicides, blackmail, personal attacks both overt and more covert. It's going to go down in history as one of the better racketeering schemes.

I normally don't like bringing up wikipedia, since being as this is the internet alot of spurious and cornball conspiracy drivel can pop up there. But if you want to see some of the shady goings on they've been involved with the section on there is actually pretty well researched it seems.


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Now we have tom wanting episodes off the air because he can't take a joke.


I'm more than willing to bet theres a tape or record of some form, in the posession of the COS, which would probably confirm all the "jokes" as true to some degree or another.

It'd make sense. What are the two things Tom Cruise seems to do most often...deny he's in the closet, and rabidly defend scientology. Maybe they know something he'd like to have remain outside the press?

edit: So yeah, tomorrow I guess we'll see what will become of chef. I just hope if they do kill the character off, they go full bore with it.
Nine Kuze 03-22-2006 03:45 PM
While, I just read this: Issac Hayes' Chef Sort of returns to South Park.

I haven't seen South Park in a loooooongg time, but this is just getting pathetic.
Peace.
Sharpshooter005 03-22-2006 03:49 PM
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According to the show's synopsis: "The town is jolted out of a case of the doldrums when Chef suddenly reappears. While Stan, Kyle, Kenny and Cartman are thrilled to have their old friend back, they notice that something about Chef seems different. When Chef's strange behavior starts getting him in trouble, the boys pull out all the stops to save him."


Oh this should be good..
Sharpshooter005 03-22-2006 09:08 PM
AHAHAHAHAAHA.

I thought thats what'd happen...the dialogues entirely edited together from old sound clips

spoiler (highlight to read):
And apparently chef's a pedophile now.
Mike 03-22-2006 09:09 PM
They must have banged this one out REAL quick.
Travis Bickle 03-22-2006 09:13 PM
Wow.

The fact that they made this in 5 days is pretty cool. The fact that the episode sucks (I haven't seen South Park since Scott Tennerman) is not.
Sharpshooter005 03-22-2006 09:15 PM
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They must have banged this one out REAL quick.


Thats why this style of animation is so great, they can just respond to events in the media in rapid time (ie the elian gonzales parody episode, the saddam capture, and so on).

The reference to the "this is what scientologists actually believe" thing is great.

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The fact that the episode sucks (I haven't seen South Park since Scott Tennerman) is not.


Hey, it's better than whats coming on after it at least.

"dee dee deee" Roll Eyes

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Yeah this is another "eff you, Scientology" episode. What with Chef running away from the town to join a cult and all.


Well yeah. Comedy Central (apparently?) pulled the episode, Issac Hayes quit...of course they'd twist the knife.
Mike 03-22-2006 09:20 PM
Yeah this is another "eff you, Scientology" episode. What with Chef running away from the town to join a cult and all.
M.S. Feather 03-22-2006 09:21 PM
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Originally posted by Cerpin Taxt
(I haven't seen South Park since Scott Tennerman)


Best episode EVER.

As for the whole Chef thing, I wasn't sure if it was just some kind of publicity stunt or whatever but I guess Hayes really has left. That's too bad.

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Originally posted by Sharpshooter005
He hadn't been in alot of episodes lately anyway...so..it's not that big a loss


Doesn't matter, at least we have Darth Chef now. Tongue
Sharpshooter005 03-22-2006 09:33 PM
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I wasn't sure if it was just some kind of publicity stunt or whatever but I guess Hayes really has left.


If it had been a publicity stunt, it would have eclipsed the terrance and phillip episode in scale and probably the amount of people it pissed off.

Anyway...Darth Chef. Thats either a one-time joke, or this is the workaround for not having Hayes's voice anymore.