Ask [AS] Results: BIG-O Season 3 News

David Ryder 04-08-2006 02:27 PM
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will there be a third season ?


There's always the possibility. It would be great if a season III was funded and answered all the questions season II failed to answer, and the new ones it brought up. If we all want a 3rd season, one would have to hold Mike Lazzlo hostage or the more realistic answer, doubtful.
ScionofDestiny 04-08-2006 10:34 PM
It would be nice if we could contact Bandai in as much as we do Adult Swim - but our inability to speak fluently or even write in Japanese is a bit of a barrier.
Dangerous 04-09-2006 08:28 AM
I remember I sent a mail (not an email) to Blizzard Entertainment a couple of years ago, to give them some suggestions for a game. When I asked them by an email if they got my mail, they answered by the negative. Frown However I well wrote their address, even if I am not used to send a mail to the USA.

I believe they didn't get my mail because I sent it at the fashion moment of the anthrax paranoid in 2001. They burnt my mail Crying
R. Daniel Olk 01 04-09-2006 10:49 AM
Maybe I'm just insensitive, but that's pretty funny! All nice and innocently, you just wanted to make a suggestion, then--bam!--no, denied, letter BURNED! Evil
ScionofDestiny 04-13-2006 11:47 AM
At any rate, there seems to have been a good bit of Big O merchandise that was never released in the United States. At the least, I wish we could get that.
Travis Bickle 04-13-2006 11:49 AM
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Originally posted by R. Daniel Olk 01
Maybe I'm just insensitive, but that's pretty funny! All nice and innocently, you just wanted to make a suggestion, then--bam!--no, denied, letter BURNED! Evil


Where do you think all the Save Big O Letters go?
R. Daniel Olk 01 04-13-2006 12:56 PM
Was that a rhetorical question or are you really asking as a joke?
Travis Bickle 04-13-2006 01:13 PM
Picture it this way. If you didn't want to do something, and recieved angry letters from 100 different cat ladies from around the nation about you not doing whatever you don't want to be doing...would you still do it?
<\:/> 04-13-2006 01:42 PM
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Originally posted by Cerpin Taxt
Picture it this way. If you didn't want to do something, and recieved angry letters from 100 different cat ladies from around the nation about you not doing whatever you don't want to be doing...would you still do it?


Since cat ladies are not my target demographic and do not buy the products my sponsors will pay me to advertise to them, most likely not. But letters from a large group of viewers that could bring in cashworthy ratings... I might think long and hard about it.
Travis Bickle 04-13-2006 01:48 PM
WOOSH! OVER YOUR HEAD!

But then again, in answer to your argument, 568 is not a large number. The fact of the matter is that very few people participate in your campaign, and if only and handful of people (say, 1000) are pushing for something to go back on air, where they would need at least 150,000 to 500,000 unique viewers to do such a thing...

Basically, I'm trying to say that your efforts are adding up to naught and will result in nothing but a waste of time and money. But you tried. Thumbs Up
BigOFan 04-13-2006 08:29 PM
Its disappointing that there won't be a 3rd season, as it leaves many unanswered questions.

We can only assume the ending just by watching the first 2 seasons.
David Ryder 04-13-2006 09:01 PM
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Basically, I'm trying to say that your efforts are adding up to naught and will result in nothing but a waste of time and money. But you tried.


and trying is all that matters, even if it accomplishes nothing, wastes time and money, and makes Big O fans look like crazy people. But yeah atleast they tried, despite being a fruitless effort.

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WOOSH! OVER YOUR HEAD!


Even I got that one.
Generalissimo D 04-13-2006 09:10 PM
At least it was brought to the states intact.

Lord knows how every Tekkaman Blade fan has been waiting for a true dub.
ScionofDestiny 04-13-2006 09:34 PM
Ah - it would certainly be nice if our efforts did amount to something. I wouldn't say anything, but I wonder if you guys would?

I'm sure that you have reasons that sound very good to you why you shouldn't have to do anything, but to my ears it sounds eerily like self-justification. Saying that "because we do nothing, it is better" is a major twist on the norm you see. If you have such a problem with how things are being done, then join the site and try to make changes from within by giving up some of your time. Make the campaign into something that sounds "sane".

Doing nothing does just that - nothing. Most science, religious, and logical works would tell you that only nothing can be born from nothing. If there is nothing, then how can something be born of it?

Also, one might argue that if Big O is doomed no matter what, it doesn't matter how sane we sound because we are doomed anyway.

Chiaki Konaka told us that if we wanted a third season then there might be a reunion - that is encouraging enough to make thirty minutes of my day worthwhile.
Krang 04-13-2006 10:30 PM
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Originally posted by ScionofDestiny
I'm sure that you have reasons that sound very good to you why you shouldn't have to do anything, but to my ears it sounds eerily like self-justification. Saying that "because we do nothing, it is better" is a major twist on the norm you see.

Or maybe more people aren't participating due to the approach. Contacting CN has proven to be useless, but if there were an alternate method, it would probably give people more hope and thus encourage them to participate. And if this were done in a more of a neutral and decentralized manner rather than alienating the rest of the Big O fans (i.e., "IF YOU DON'T JOIN THIS PARTICULAR SITE, IT MEANS YOU DON'T WANT MORE BIG O!!!!!11"), it would greatly increase the fanbase available for the campaign.
<\:/> 04-13-2006 11:48 PM
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Originally posted by Cerpin Taxt
WOOSH! OVER YOUR HEAD!

But then again, in answer to your argument, 568 is not a large number. The fact of the matter is that very few people participate in your campaign, and if only and handful of people (say, 1000) are pushing for something to go back on air, where they would need at least 150,000 to 500,000 unique viewers to do such a thing...

Basically, I'm trying to say that your efforts are adding up to naught and will result in nothing but a waste of time and money. But you tried. Thumbs Up


Heh! Oh no my friend, I understood you quite clearly Wink You are quite right, the letter sending alone is not going to get a third seaon of the show produced, I don't know of anyone who is under that dilusion. Why is it that SBO is met with such animosity here? Why is it even a seperate site? Would it not be more effective to simply have it be a subforum over here at PCF; I know that it grew out of PCF why did it separate? I guess I was under the false impression that SBO was working in tandem with PCF, since both are comprised of Big O fans and just about everybody over at SBO also posts here. But every time I post something here that even mentions SBO it is immediately flamed Confused

I happen to agree with Krang about looking beyond Adult Swim/Cartoon Network. My suggestion is to go to AD Vision since they own both the Anime Network and ADV Films, so they have several options open to them as to how they would release the season. Does anyone kow how long the option contract between AS and Sunrise is good for? Those things do expire and I couldn't see AS putting more money down (because compensation is required for any contract, even an option contract, to be valid) to hold an option for a show they have no plans of producing.
Krang 04-14-2006 12:25 AM
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Originally posted by <\:/>
Why is it even a seperate site? Would it not be more effective to simply have it be a subforum over here at PCF; I know that it grew out of PCF why did it separate? I guess I was under the false impression that SBO was working in tandem with PCF, since both are comprised of Big O fans and just about everybody over at SBO also posts here. But every time I post something here that even mentions SBO it is immediately flamed Confused

That is a very good question. I thought the original plan for that site was to provide some general information about the current situation of a third season of Big O and the contact information for Cartoon Network, but when launching the site, they opened their own forums to supposedly separate people who don't want a third season from those that do, even though that is counteractive to their cause in my opinion. Aren't they trying to access a large Big O fanbase? Networks care about quantity, not quality (i.e., how gung-ho they are about a third season). For the record, I never wanted Paradigm to "compete" with their community, so that was entirely their idea. Despite all this, I still support those who want a third season, and I will do what I can to help here at Paradigm.
R. Daniel Olk 01 04-14-2006 01:02 AM
The reason they separated was personal.

I think that Krang and Zola should put their past behind them and try working things out once more, or use an intermediary to reach a compromise and consolidate the sites.

If SBO did ever merge with Paradigm City, I'd hope it would have a nice, prominent place on its pages.

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Well, one thing that makes SBO nice is that, since all the people there agree they want a third season, they're all crazy-into Big O. There are plenty of dedicated fans at PCF, as well, but then there are also plenty of cynical people like Cerphin Taxt (he only has one strike?) who don't hesitate to bring others down.

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Why is it even a seperate site? Would it not be more effective to simply have it be a subforum over here at PCF; I know that it grew out of PCF why did it separate? I guess I was under the false impression that SBO was working in tandem with PCF, since both are comprised of Big O fans and just about everybody over at SBO also posts here. But every time I post something here that even mentions SBO it is immediately flamed


good point!

I think PCF people sometimes flame SBO because, like you've been saying, a kind of snobby aura has built up around SBO. That's dumb, of course; all the people I know at SBO are nothing if not sympathetic. Nobody at SBO flames any praise of PCF.
Krang 04-14-2006 01:24 AM
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Originally posted by R. Daniel Olk 01
The reason they separated was personal.

Apparently so, because I don't see any other benefits to their cause by doing that.

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I think that Krang and Zola should put their past behind them and try working things out once more, or use an intermediary to reach a compromise and consolidate the sites.

I always have been and always will be willing to work things out and/or consolidate the sites. Personally, I think it would work out better for the future of Big O to have one united fanbase instead of two separate ones, since, like I said, quantity matters more than anything else.

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If SBO did ever merge with Paradigm City, I'd hope it would have a nice, prominent place on its pages.

Absolutely. Like I said earlier, I am willing to help out those who want a third season in any way possible from here at Paradigm.

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Well, one thing that makes SBO nice is that, since all the people there agree they want a third season, they're all crazy-into Big O. There are plenty of dedicated fans at PCF, as well, but then there are also plenty of cynical people like Cerphin Taxt (he only has one strike?) who don't hesitate to bring others down.

If all season 3 discussion here were separated into another section, I doubt those who oppose it would bother to read it (or if they did, they would quickly lose interest), so it would achieve the same goal without splitting the fanbase.

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Nobody at SBO flames any praise of PCF.

Actually, there have been flames in both directions, although this is not the place to discuss that.
Travis Bickle 04-14-2006 01:38 AM
My cynicism and overall me going-all-hellfire-and-brimstone stems from a long time ago (a year, maybe). Part personal vendetta, and part me not liking the approach to getting a third season. Should there be a third season of the Big O? Possibly. We could live without one and live with the fact that the ending was confusing (Eva and Paranoia Agent, anyone?). If there were to be, awesome. However...that isn't the way to go towards it.

Oh yeah, and my name was mentioned in a thread over there somewhere a while back. I don't think it exists any more, but it sure wasn't anything nice. I'm not really the bad guy here, dudes.