Ask [AS] Results: BIG-O Season 3 News

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Big-O models or a whole box full of pamphlets

Paper = nice way to start fires. But no really, I gave up on season 3 years ago. I've said it before There is no shame in admitting defeat.

However, not saying everyone should give up, but I honestly don't think AS/CN the best person to ask at this point and time.

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Originally posted by Gaddes quote: Big-O models or a whole box full of pamphlets Paper = nice way to start fires. But no really, I gave up on season 3 years ago. I've said it before There is no shame in admitting defeat.

>.> Now, I tried to diffuse this before but... Well, here goes nothin...


You've made it pretty obvious you do not have any hope for a Season III. Thats fine. If you think that sending letters and tomatos to AS is a bad idea, that's cool too. Its fine to say so as well. But it really isn't necessary to continuously post about the unlikelihood of a third season in a thread about season three when you've made yourself perfectly clear and no new information has come into the picture, because Scion basically said what I said, with a little more detail.

So... back on topic maybe?

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So... back on topic maybe?

Aye. I concede. XD

EDIT: Damn, I've been diffused. Ah, well. Back on topic.

Big O was more than one old anime to me though. It was my first dosage of what I consider to be "real" anime - I step or two above DBZ you might say in overall quality. I may not have understood it when I was young as I do now, but I still liked it when others my age hated it.

So yes - Big O has a lot of setimental value to me. But as a realist. After all, such campaigns have worked in the past and we got season 2 out of the deal. The problem isn't that people are sending letters. It is not enough people are sending them. Adult Swim also couldn't make a crappy anime - they have virutally nothing to do with the effort. Sunrise is. The Big O makers WANT to make a new season. Konoka once said something - it was badly translated though - about action figure sales deciding on the fate of the third season. The old post is on some thread on www.savebigo.com ... maybe I'll find it. Konoka says that IF there are still FANS of Big O THEN there SHOULD be a third seaosn - we already know he was cut off from other evidence, so we're not asking for something that can't exist.

Let me put it simply, with a logic format.

If AS footed the bill THEN Bandai would have Sunrise make Season 3 - almost certainly. After all - why not? It isn't their money they are losing.

Problem is that AS believes - perhaps not wrongly, admittedly - that comedy is the way to go, not anime.

What was the original subject anyway? We were talking about Adult Swim response - right? I'll check title.

I am not fond of confrontation, which is what this has become. The argument over what is what or who feels is what is futile, and I'll ask that we cease. Neither of us can prove anything anyway, and I really don't care anymore. I can't really defend my point, since I have none. I'm just expressing my feelings on the matter, and those have no effect on anything of import.

So... back to whatever we were supposed to be talking about.

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Originally posted by Big Money After all, pestering is what got Season II...

Not quite. What got us season two was a combination of contacting the writers at Sunrise, buying Big O DVDs and merchandise, and sending letters to both CN and Bandai. However, it did not take much pestering, since fans soon began to receive responses from Bandai that they were looking into the possibility of extending the series.

But that was then, and this is now. Cartoon Network did play a large part in making Season 2 happen, but that was before Big O did not live up to their expectations for ratings. Back then, the sales of Big O merchandise were apparently above average, but this time, according to CN, "the ratings and DVD sales in the US and Japan were middling." At this point, it's safe to say that CN wants nothing more to do with another season, and no amount of letters or publicity stunts will change their opinion.

Does this mean we should give up and do nothing? No. In my opinion, we need to extend our options and start contacting other companies. Instead of an "all or nothing" approach where we insist on having a full third season funded by CN and airing on Adult Swim, I think we should consider opening up other possibilities, such as the concept of a DVD-only third season, or even an OVA or movie instead of a full 13 or 26 episodes. And although he hasn't heard back from the companies he contacted yet, I think ZeaLitY is on the right track with his written petition.

I would certainly be willing to accept an OAV or movie - provided that Sunrise can finish the anime the way they want too with that much time. On the brightside, OAV's are high quality.

The written petition sounds cool - I think it is close too, partly because of what other people have told me.

I agree with Krang's approach. We can't trust in CN anymore to give us a Big O III.

I've seen some other possibilities thrown around before:

Animé Network.
G4 TV.



Can anyone think of any other animé-friendly networks?

HMM - if my memory serves, Zola did ask Anime Network if they would consider buying the rights for Big O and they said they'd consider it. That was awhile go though.

So - they didn't say no. Maybe we should ask again - but how?

buying the rights would cost a good bit of cash. Also since the anime network is run by ADV, they had best get the original dub cast. This however,is if a 3rd season is even made. I'd be pretty cheesed if they recast the entire thing.

They recast Norman for season 2 didn't they? Someone came up with the far fetched idea of trying to buy it from them ourselves - but CN never bothered to respond.

How much would that cost, buying the rights to Big O? Certainly not a million. 100,000, maybe?

Richard Barnes/Milton James, Normans season one voice actor, I think stopped doing voice acting or he moved out of the LA area. His season two voice actor is Alan Oppenheimer. I'm quite sure it would cost more than a mere 100k.

100k? We're talkin' millions, man! To fund an entire season of an a high-quality animated show like TBO? whew...

yeah. The rights, production costs, hiring VA's, and many other aspects would cost more than 100k, million's like <\:/> said. 100k could however make 10 harem shows and still have plenty left over.

I've always wondered about good voice actors costing so much. What is it about their talking that warrants so much money? For someone with a unique voice like Richard Blum, I somewhat understand, but for most other people, I don't.

Hmm, I wish I knew how to delete this post and make it purely a PM, instead... I realize it's off-topic.

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Richard Blum

Steven Blum is his name.

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What is it about their talking that warrants so much money?

Equipement costs, studio fee's and things such as that.

"clicks tongue experimently"

300 x 50

$15,000.00 x 12

15


hmm - it would take ... hmm ... 300 people sending in 50 dollars a month a year to make $180,000.00 ... so in 6-7 years we would have a million.

We would need to increase our fanbase, probably lower it to $30.00 a month - and hmm... make a neutral account for money. Far-fetched but possible - if we could get the people who like Big O too do it. At the least, we could get $100,000.00 and "fly them a loan" - just like they sarcastically told us too. It would be ironic.

If you want to say "impossible" go ahead - but that is what makes it impossible. Even if your a twelve-year old, going door to door and mowing lawns is a sure way of making 50 or 60 dollars a month - forget 30. That means half for you and half for the campaign - or all for you and screw the campaign, depending on your priorties.

What I would do is just sacrifice a new anime DVD or two a month and send money to a neutral account instead. Easy as that.

Also - don't forget - money works, and it rarely irratates the people who loan or give it too. Everybody wins!

You're crazy, but I like your style.