Ask [AS] Results: BIG-O Season 3 News

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I think, if you really want more of Big O, you shouldn't pester the corporations for it.

Well put. I honestly think these fruitless letter campaigns are what the reason is why CN hasn't done anything, and the fact that the show is done.

I wouldn't say that's entirely accurate, Randolph... After all, pestering is what got Season II...

The reason CN isn't doing anything about it is that they don't find it a financially secure business move, which to some extent is true. Most of Adult Swim's audience can't stand "that anime crap," and would much rather view the [as] comedy programming.


Now, I would really like a season III, but I haven't got much hope for it. However, that certainly doesn't mean I'm going to discourage my fellow fans from expressing their want of another season, especially when a similar campaign actually succeeded in the past.

The trouble I have with pestering for a new season is the attitude with which said season would come forth, and it's quality.

With pestering:
"Okay, okay. FINE. We'll give you your damned new season. Now shut up."
Said season comes out, but is not terribly good, mostly more of the same and while a viable extension of the series, probably won't compare to it's predecessors.

Without pestering:
Many years in the future...
"Hey... what's this? *picks up Big O, blows off dust*
Hmm... this looks pretty good. Maybe we could take this and make something new out of it again."
Said new season is given fresh perspective by many years spent away from it, having fallen from the view of the public eye and been forgotten. It is then revived better than before and becomes classic.

It amounts to mostly wishful thinking, I will admit. But if it did occur, I would say the latter would be my preferred circumstance.

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Originally posted by Randolph The trouble I have with pestering for a new season is the attitude with which said season would come forth, and it's quality. With pestering: "Okay, okay. FINE. We'll give you your damned new season. Now shut up." Said season comes out, but is not terribly good, mostly more of the same and while a viable extension of the series, probably won't be extremely good.

True, this is what would likely happen if, say, you or I were making Big O by ourselves. But that isn't how it works. Correct me if I am wrong, but haven't the creators stated themselves that they would like to continue the series? That would mean that it is up to the corporations in charge to cough up the money. Corporations are large and impersonal entities; it isn't going to make them angry or annoyed if they get letters every day. Its going to show them that there's interest and a viable market for their product.

I agree with you. But speaking from a creative standpoint, the longer something gets talked about, the staler it gets and the lower the quality becomes. I'm more worried about a new season flopping than a new season not being made.
Yes, if we were to talk about it enough, they probably would make us a new one, I don't doubt that. But I think waiting and letting it fade out for a bit would do it good and save it from stagnation. That is all I am really saying.

I will admit I am not very informed on the topic of the business aspects, and probably cannot make an accurate assessment as such. I should, for integrity's sake, concede the point and let others make the decisions.

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"Okay, okay. FINE. We'll give you your damned new season. Now shut up."

If the letter campaigns actually did work, big if too. That would be great however, I do believe that 3rd season would be rather awful much like most of season two.

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That would mean that it is up to the corporations in charge to cough up the money.

Very true, however CN and AS have made it painfully obvious that they won't do it. I would suggest another corperation.

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Originally posted by Randolph I will admit I am not very informed on the topic of the business aspects, and probably cannot make an accurate assessment as such. I should, for integrity's sake, concede the point and let others make the decisions.

I'd like a season III now and I'm not going to do anything about it, and you'd like a season III later and you're not going to do anything about it. I guess we cancel out XD.

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Originally posted by Gaddes quote: "Okay, okay. FINE. We'll give you your damned new season. Now shut up." If the letter campaigns actually did work, big if too. That would be great however, I do believe that 3rd season would be rather awful much like most of season two.

If you thought most of season II was awful, I can understand why you'd be worried about the quality of season III. I can definately also understand the actual concern about the quality of a sequel (Revolotions? Ressurection?)...

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If you thought most of season II was awful, I can understand why you'd be worried about the quality of season III. I can definately also understand the actual concern about the quality of a sequel (Revolotions? Ressurection?)...

I will admit season II had it's merits however compared season one, you can tell they rushed a whole lot. Personally after episode 18 it was like watching a totally different show.

Edit: good lord put up a spoiler, instead of a quote. haha X_X

The colors were different, to be sure, and the animation took a nose dive for Stripes and The Third Big, but I thought everything else was pretty up to Big O standard.

It certainly wasn't the same, though, especially with the much increased number of plot episodes as opposed to stand alones...

Season II did feel pretty rushed. I can't say whether fan demand was a factor or not, but I feel like it was. It's another reason why I think we should let a third season happen naturally, and give the writers time to get their act together. Once they've got everything how they want it, they can get to work on their own time and make something really good.

I've always felt that if we try too hard to get more Big O, we'll wreck it.
I can just imagine what a rushed third season could bring.

"O Noez! Roger was a robot copy all along, made by teh same ppl who made Dorothy out of parts of Waynewright's grandchildren! Omg Schwarzwald evil twin comes in Big Quattro and blows up Central Dome! OMFG TEH FIFTH BIG!!1 OMGOMGOMG teh memories were all inside Norman's eyepatch!11!11"

Well... perhaps I exaggerate, but of course you understand my concern.

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"O Noez! Roger was a robot copy all along, made by teh same ppl who made Dorothy out of parts of Waynewright's grandchildren! Omg Schwarzwald evil twin comes in Big Quattro and blows up Central Dome! OMFG TEH FIFTH BIG!!1 OMGOMGOMG teh memories were all inside Norman's eyepatch!11!11"

As funny as this is, it does sound like something that would happen in all honesty. Season II had to many plot holes, way to many. Nothing was explained, and we are left with even more questions. I do see the reason why people want a thrid season, however I don't think pestering CN is going to do a darn thing.

XD I've already said why pestering CN would work. I mean, I'm not the absolute authority on this sort of thing, but I do know how capitalism works...





And Big O II was definately deliberately confusing and vague. I don't speak for the creators, but its to the extent that it isn't a leap of the imagination that they were doing so so that the series could be extended further.

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I've already said why pestering CN would work.

It can, we just have to get rid of Mike Lazzo AKA "OMG anime is teh sux!!"

Just to clarify, I'm not contesting that pestering will get another season. Even though I think it's a waste of time and effort, I can't make those kinds of judgements, and I'm sure with enough support you could prove me wrong entirely. I have nothing against trying.

What I am contesting is if it is a good idea to do so. I think if we push, we'll get it, but it won't be as good as if we just waited for it to happen on its own.

That's all, and it's still only how I feel about it. You're all free to draw your own conclusions, and many of you are better informed than I and can do so in a much more educated way.

Schwarzwald needed more screentime.

Not just his VOICE.

SCREENTIME.

I agree with everything X Prime just said.



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I thought season 2 was great. I liked it just as much as the first one. (perhaps even more)

However, I do agree that Schwarzwald should have gotten more screen time. If there is ever a 3rd season then I hope he plays a bigger role in some way. Perhaps some of Schwarzwald's followers might start up a rebellion against Paradigm City's government.

... okay, so in short do nothing, sit back, recline, ignore the problem, and wait for other people to do something about it, all the while thinking we're clever for not doing anything about it?

In other words - the new American dream in written word.

CN doesn't have much to with Sunrises creative buzz. They just foot the bill and then make the profits. Problem? Not enough profits for season two - that and apparently Mike Lazzo doesn't like it.

I don't think CN is consciously not funding a third season because of letters. That would be stupid. It is all because they are worried about money - the other American dream. Our country has been founded on the basis that you have to work hard to get lots of money and then you are a worthwhile person - just like President Wilson (?) said. "If a man hasn't made a million dollars by the time he is forty, he isn't worth much."

Then the puritans and Jamestown settlers were workaholics as well. Then the Protestants who believed worldly success was a sign of God's favor and something to be achieved ... it is a workaholic country.

It was a ... acceptable system before all the crap corporations started stealing peoples money - the ethic was work hard, work long, then get retirement fund to enjoy the ten years with absolutely no work. Then ENRON (?) and TAKE ALL THEIR MONEY.

UH - wow way off topic. Anyway, the point is that it is all about the money to Adult Swim - everyone wants more. It is pretty much the only thing that matters in corporations like that. Do you think they made Robot Chicken for the sake of art...?

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Problem? Not enough profits for season two - that and apparently Mike Lazzo doesn't like it.

Pretty much. So if you want season three, Mike Lazzo is gonna have to leave, which is doubtful.

i'll go on the record and say that I like Robot Chicken and 12 Oz mouse (yes that show, that basically every Big O fan hates.)

I think trying more unusual methods (like the whole tomato thing) might be more effective then the usual mail blitzes and petitions. It's easy to simply ignore letters and petitions, but something more unusual is more likely to get noticed. Perhaps we should try sending adult swim some paper Big-O models or a whole box full of pamphlets similar to the ones that Schwarzwald scattered throughout the city. Anything would be better than simply doing nothing.

I don't think a 3rd season would turn out bad. Remember, season 2 was rushed towards the end because Sunrise found out they wouldn't be able to make a 3rd season. Now that the a lot of the material that was meant for a 3rd season was crammed into season 2, season 3 would probably be more like season 1 because they won't have to cram as much material into a limited number of episodes.