Ask [AS] Results: BIG-O Season 3 News
| Travis Bickle |
03-04-2006 01:56 AM |
In the meantime, Williams Street can spend their money on trying to write awesome 12 Oz Mouse scripts:
"For you we have a mission"
"Mission...Fishin'"
"Fishin"
"Fishin...Bitchin"
It just doesn't get any better.
| David Ryder |
03-04-2006 02:37 AM |
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Originally posted by Cerpin Taxt
In the meantime, Williams Street can spend their money on trying to write awesome 12 Oz Mouse scripts:
"For you we have a mission"
"Mission...Fishin'"
"Fishin"
"Fishin...Bitchin"
It just doesn't get any better. |
sounds like a plan and perhaps release the first season on DVD.
| aeternus_flammus |
03-06-2006 06:51 PM |
Kim Manning, who is in charge of the ask [as] feature, has commented about Big O III.
And what is up with Big O Season 3?
I wasn't in on this, so I asked Jason DeMarco, who was involved in production for season 2, and here's what he said: "Unfortunately, I don't think it can happen. The ratings and DVD sales in the US and Japan were middling. The only reason Bandai made season 2 was because we asked them to, as a matter of fact. I myself am happy with the ending of the story in season 2, though the writer, Chiaki Konaka, told me he did have another idea for season 3....there you go!"
Source
And the ambiguity continues . . .
| X Prime |
03-06-2006 06:54 PM |
| 6 moon dance |
03-07-2006 10:03 PM |
Krang wrote
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| The written petition may not involve much money (only the cost of a stamp and envelope), but it has much more potential since it involves contacting several companies instead of just one (not to mention the fact that it can also obtain the support of Big O fans who do not use the Internet). |
Excellent point.
| R. Daniel Olk 01 |
03-08-2006 06:20 PM |
A concern though, if the Anime News Network did help fund/host/whatever a third season. I'm betting they're not as big as Cartoon Network. I mean, they have fewer resources to devote towards a produciton. Do you think, if they did help, that the quality of the animation, translation, or voice acting would be below that of a Cartoon Network production?
G4, though... that's a good alternative.
We're in no worse position after this post then we were before it. AS has denied us before I have no doubt they'll deny us again. [AS] saying they won't/can't do something is the same as them saying 'we're can't/won't do it now'.
I'm turning into P.D. here. I do think they're interested. Have they had a Q and A session where they didn't address Big O? Not that I can remember. And they've dropped a very interesting piece of information on us. Most of us here (I'm referring also to members who don't post much in the Smith Mansion anymore) know that Konaka wanted another season. She didn't say it in as powerful of terms but we finally have a singular quote we can point to when people say "Act 26 was the end."
She's given us amunition. This may be enough to sway quite a few people.
muchlove
-Dork
| 6 moon dance |
03-14-2006 05:34 PM |
Dork wrote:
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| I do think they're interested. Have they had a Q and A session where they didn't address Big O? Not that I can remember. And they've dropped a very interesting piece of information on us. Most of us here (I'm referring also to members who don't post much in the Smith Mansion anymore) know that Konaka wanted another season. She didn't say it in as powerful of terms but we finally have a singular quote we can point to when people say "Act 26 was the end." |
I couldn't agree with you more, Dork.
The fact that Kim Manning said although,
she was happy with the Big O's ending,
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| "the writer, Chiaki Konaka, told me he did have another idea for season 3....there you go!" |
makes me think tht AS would produce a third season if they were convinced that there was a market for it.
Now the question is how do we convince AS that there is a market for more Big O?
Manning also said that one of the factors that they consider in deciding which anime to show is the amount of buzz a show has on the AS boards
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16. How do you go about acquiring the anime? I mean, the start to finish process of getting anime from the early talks to getting it on my television.
The thing I'm always interested in first is the storytelling. Even with our comedy, the writing is always key. Then, what is demand like? What are people asking for on our boards? What's getting the most fan subs created, what has the most buzz?. |
So, visit the AS boards and post. Start new Big O related threads. Don't be afraid to be flamed. Flame is good. Flame means that people are reading our stuff. Flame attracts attention and more attention means more Big O fans.
Several SBO members started posting Big O related threads on the AS boards about a week ago. We've attracted some flames, but we've also attracted more fans and so far none of the Big O threads have been deleted.
Sure, posting on the AS boards alone won't give us new episodes of Big O, but that along with an effective letter writing campaign and petition and attention getting activities like the Tomato Blitz will help demonstrate that there is a demand for more Big O.
The important things to remember are
1. Dont expect this to happen tomorrow.
2. Keep the faith, it will happen.
PS Dork
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| read your mail. |
| David Ryder |
03-14-2006 11:54 PM |
I think the better question to ask would be is why we Big O fan keep asking the same question every year, and are surprised by what is already painfully obvious?
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| Have they had a Q and A session where they didn't address Big O? Not that I can remember. |
Because most of the time it's because it's always brought back up by us Big O fans, and they always give the same answer.
Is it so hard to just let Big O go? I mean I still love Big O, but it's done. I sure I'll get told something about we need to keep it alive or something along those lines but what can one do.
| Sharpshooter005 |
03-15-2006 01:17 AM |
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| f the Anime News Network did help fund/host/whatever a third season. I'm betting they're not as big as Cartoon Network. I mean, they have fewer resources to devote towards a produciton. |
...How would a website financially back a television series?
Or...is there some actual television network by that name I'm unaware of.
| David Ryder |
03-15-2006 01:40 AM |
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| f the Anime News Network did help fund/host/whatever a third season. I'm betting they're not as big as Cartoon Network. I mean, they have fewer resources to devote towards a produciton. |
Anime News Network and The Anime Network are two toally different things. ANN is a site for info and such and The Anime Network is an ADV run channel that shows nothing but anime.
| paul1290 |
03-15-2006 07:44 PM |
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Originally posted by Gaddes
Is it so hard to just let Big O go? I mean I still love Big O, but it's done. I sure I'll get told something about we need to keep it alive or something along those lines but what can one do. |
Even though I want a 3rd season, that doesn't mean I'm unable to let Big-O go. I'll be fine even if it doesn't get a 3rd season. However, it doesn't hurt to try does it? A 10% chance is still a chance no matter how small.
| David Ryder |
03-15-2006 07:54 PM |
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| However, it doesn't hurt to try does it? |
No not at all, but doesn't it seem kinda I don't know, (no offence to anyone that sends letters to CN), kinda Pathetic to keep sending and sending and get no where for what 4 years now?
CN: "Well we got another sack full of "OMG GIVE ME BIG O SEASON 3 NOW CN!!!!" letters. What we do with them?
Head Hancho: "They don't give up do they...*laughs* Shred'em or Burn'em, whatever works.
CN: Roger that! No pun intended.
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| So, visit the AS boards and post. Start new Big O related threads. |
So spam the AS message boards? Perhaps that's one of the reason's they haven't made season three? I remember that silly best hero vote thing....at first it was kinda fun but then it got retarded fast, and when we have people joining solo to vote in that, can we really blame them for not making season 3?
| Chitter-Box-Kat |
03-28-2006 03:20 PM |
Fudgemonkeys...I want a third season!

Please excuse me while I go off to pout.
| ScionofDestiny |
04-03-2006 09:35 AM |
There is nothing against the rules for that - Roger is the best hero. Everyone did what had to be done to help him out - if Inuyasha won, would that have been better???!!!
Anyway, do you honestly believe that something as insignificant as message boards would motivate their decision not to make Big O third season? It is all about money - and that is all about Mike Lazzo - and all about them believing that their money would be better spent making cheap comedy shows than expensive high quality anime.
| Randolph |
04-03-2006 02:27 PM |
The problem there is, they are correct.
They are better invested in cheap comedy shows than expensive, quality anime.
Cheap comedy is indeed inexpensive; most of them look they could be made for free by some college kid with Flash. They also have a strong appeal to more casual viewers who just want a quick laugh-- and those far outnumber fans of intelligent, thought-provoking animation.
If they did invest in making more anime, they would likely lose money, if only because as popular as anime is, it isn't the greatest thing ever and probably not enough people would watch it on AS to give it proper returns.
Now I'll be the first to admit I may be highly misinformed on this subject, but this is the opinion I have formed on my knowledge; I give you full license to disagree or correct me as you see fit.
| David Ryder |
04-03-2006 03:06 PM |
Randoph is correct. Mike Lazzlo might hate Big O but honestly I would to if I keep getting barraged with letters and salad products. It makes perfect sense to make cheaper comedy shows. Bigger audience, broader appeal, and can be produced in huge amounts for almost no cost. I have said it before and I guess I will have to say it again, Big O is done, time to move on folks.
| Paradigm Dog |
04-03-2006 03:20 PM |
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| Originally posted by GaddesI have said it before and I guess I will have to say it again, Big O is done, time to move on folks. |
Hmm, never say never.
Trigun was "done"...for a while now, and yet it's coming back suddenly with a new movie developed by Madhouse Studios.
Ninja Scroll was "done" for even longer and it came back with a 13 ep. TV series and has a movie sequel in the works now.
Neither of these were even supposed to continue at all...
And then there's Dangaioh. If anything was done, it was it. Yet it came back: There was about a decade of gap between it and its sequel.
Japanese studios have this unspoken philosophy of returning to old material after a some time. Since BIG-O is highlighted with a pic on SUNRISE's official website, I imagine it's on their mind as something that could
eventually be finished. It may come to pass that SUNRISE will pull it off themselves--or, with Bandai, who have, like Konaka-san, stated they feel that BIG-O can continue at some point.
So there's no need to get nasty about it. lol. The fact is, there's nothing that can really replace BIG-O right now on the anime scene with the kind of material it was delivering except for RahXephon, and its run its course.
| David Ryder |
04-03-2006 03:27 PM |
Ninja Scroll T.V was a US/Japan co-production that Urban Vison funded. Trigun is coming back, which is good. RahXephon is overrated beyond belief and I guess since Mr.Konaka does it, it's "OMG Hurray Big O power".
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| So there's no need to get nasty about it. |
I'm being "nasty"? I simply stating that....well I've already told everyone it's pointless, so no need to repeat myself. If Big O gets a thrid season, good but if doesn't then I won't lose sleep over it.
| Randolph |
04-03-2006 03:27 PM |
I think, if you really want more of Big O, you shouldn't pester the corporations for it. If they want to go back to it, they will when they are ready.
The material has to age, and be somewhat forgotten before it can be made fresh again. As long as people keep shouting about it, sending letters abouts it and demanding more, it will stay fresh in our minds and slowly stagnate. That isn't what we want.
I believe that those who keep ranting for more are in fact denying themselves it. If we let it go, let it sink to the bottom and vanish from view, it will one day be picked up and revived.
No one can give Big O-- or any series-- new life until it has properly died.
Now of course, that is my feeling. I throroughly expect many to disagree, some savagely. But I must keep my stance on this; as Gaddes has said on many occasions, and as I agree, it's done. We should move on.