why so much hate?

The Question 08-01-2006 09:33 PM
That's sick.

I don't mind it, but I sort of started watching much further in. The fangirls get me angry but it's the same with most anime, there's always crazy fans.
Tickle Tickle 08-01-2006 10:02 PM
The problem with Inuyasha is that it has such a simple and easy conflict. And yet, the author streches this INSANELY simple and boring plot through over 1000 chapters. And she does a bad job with it! And that's the main reason I gave up on it.

I mean, One Piece/Dragon Ball/Sailor Moon are all insanely long series but they do it right! Do you think the Dragon Ball series spent over 200 episodes just on Goku collecting Dragon Balls? No. Goku and the gang have collect the dragon balls various time during it's run. And the series had different major story arcs. By the time the series is over, the dragon balls aren't even a major plotline! The series was too busy having Goku getting married, having a son, discovering he's an alien, reviving his friends, so on and so on.

Sailor Moon is another example. Yes, it's very episodic. Yes it has alot of ungodly fillers, but the series didn't just focus on Sailor Moon facing the Dark Kingdom. Usagi faced different major enemies, met new Sailor Senshi, and learns more about her past (and future).

Dark Kingdom... Black Moon... Chibiusa.. Death Busters... The Outer Senshi.. etc, etc.

Yet, here we have Inuyasha. A series that spent 166 episodes on Inuyasha fighting Naraku. And the manga is going over 1000 chapters, and INUYASHA IS STILL FIGHTING NARAKU! Yeah, he faces some episodic villians like the painter guy, Koga, the demonic creature of the day, etc. The plot never seems to reach a turning point. Inuyasha and Kagome's relationship is still the same. Sango still doesn't have her own spin-off, and Shippo is still one of the most useless characters of all time.

And the thing that really sucks is that I'm sure everyone knows Inuyasha is gonna get a suckfest ending. Honestly, since when did Rumiko Takahashi ever write up a good ending?
Shadow dorothy 08-01-2006 11:42 PM
Sorry if this has already been said, but Inu is for kids, and RIF's scare me alot even though I have RIF friends. And the love stry is tiresome to the extreme. It's like Pokemon with swords and sex.
Raven 08-01-2006 11:58 PM
Well, who just watched that waste of time episode? I guess Inuyasha learned yet another move for his sword. They set it up perfectly for Naraku’s demise there too. Impaled by the new move, blasted to pieces by Sesshomaru, then hit with a sacred arrow from Kagome. Of course, the only result was Naraku’s barrier being destroyed YET AGAIN and Naraku escaping… I swear, that’s about the 4th time that’s happened now. I really can’t see how diehard Inuyasha fans can continue to enjoy this dribble.
David Ryder 08-02-2006 02:36 AM
I was bored and watched iInuyasha just to see what the heck was going on, well it seems Naraku was killed yet again for what like the 10th friggin' time, Inuyasha learns a new move we will see him spam every epsiode, and of course zero character development. The manga is even worse as well, 40+ volumes. Berserk is long manga series as well, however Guts and Co., hardly if ever fight the villian of the day style of battles. Berserk is a long series done right, with great characters and a fun story. Takahashi needs to just end the manga or better yet, end her her life.
Sharpshooter005 08-02-2006 05:01 AM
Having watched part of the episode shown tonight, I've decided Naraku is actually Doctor Claw.

Honestly it always ends with him narrowly escaping death, and basically going "I'll get you all next time! NEXT TIIIIME!!"
Raven 08-02-2006 01:56 PM
I like how right after this rather important episode, they are going to shamelessly move into another filler episode. Correct me if I’m wrong though, but haven’t they already used a huge pack of man-eating rats in an older filler episode? I could have sword I’ve seen this before.
Nine Kuze 08-02-2006 03:12 PM
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Originally posted by D-Boy
Everytime a fangirl says they love Sesshomaru, I feel like ripping out their ovaries and get my clothes all bloody.

Please, think of my laundry.

That my man, would have been better than the last fifty episodes.

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Originally posted by Raven
Well, who just watched that waste of time episode? I guess Inuyasha learned yet another move for his sword. They set it up perfectly for Naraku’s demise there too. Impaled by the new move, blasted to pieces by Sesshomaru, then hit with a sacred arrow from Kagome. Of course, the only result was Naraku’s barrier being destroyed YET AGAIN and Naraku escaping… I swear, that’s about the 4th time that’s happened now. I really can’t see how diehard Inuyasha fans can continue to enjoy this dribble.

4th? Honestly, I lost count after a long time ago. You to me, if the Band of Seven story arc was done so much better, the series could have ended there. It was nicely set up for it as well, with Kikyo "dying". And yeah, if Inuyasha learns one more technique...

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Originally posted by Umino
The problem with Inuyasha is that it has such a simple and easy conflict. And yet, the author streches this INSANELY simple and boring plot through over 1000 chapters. And she does a bad job with it! And that's the main reason I gave up on it... Inuyasha and Kagome's relationship is still the same. Sango still doesn't have her own spin-off,

Well said, Umino and I agree. It was all good but I just don't want to post the whole thing. The points on Sailor Moon and Dragonball were good as well. And I think I read some spoiler somewhere that at the end of the series, Inuyasha and Kagome's relationship ultimately still stays the same.
I guess that calls for that "suckfest ending" of yours.

And yes, when this series ends (hopefully if it ever will), I'll be waiting for the Sango spin-off series.

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Originally posted by Raven
I like how right after this rather important episode, they are going to shamelessly move into another filler episode. Correct me if I’m wrong though, but haven’t they already used a huge pack of man-eating rats in an older filler episode? I could have sword I’ve seen this before.

Yeah, those were indeed rats. How damn stupid. How in the blue hell does any series go from almost killing the main villain (no matter how many times) to... rat demons. And yeah, this has been done before expect with cats.

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Originally posted by Sharpie
Having watched part of the episode shown tonight, I've decided Naraku is actually Doctor Claw.

Naraku pisses me off something fierce. Who the hell writes his dialogue? And he needs to die, like now. Just complete the damn jewel and kill this sucka.

Man, there isn't a Tuesday night that goes by where I don't ask myself the question of why I still watch this farce.
Peace.
Sharpshooter005 08-03-2006 02:02 AM
Now they're plugging a movie on AS...So..this thing is up to what, 700 episodes and three movies?
Raven 08-03-2006 02:47 AM
I think there is a fourth movie out there too. I've seen the first three, and the third one with Sesshomaru is pretty decent. I actually enjoyed the movies I have to say. They provided interesting stories, decent action, and they managed to reach a conclusion.

The villains were all way better than Naraku as well. In other words, they had better goals and they put up a better fights then he ever has. Their back stories were also better than his is. I’ve grown really tired of his tentacle attacks and his hiding behind barriers.
Nine Kuze 08-03-2006 05:02 PM
The movies are actually not too bad, given the current state of the actual anime series itself.

But, and I think its in the second movie, when Kagome kissed Inuyasha, that kind of ruined the whole thing for me and started the tailspin.

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Originally posted by Raven
I’ve grown really tired of his tentacle attacks and his hiding behind barriers.

He's such a punk. I don't mind all the traps and schemes he's known for. But once in a while man, do some physical fighting yourself. I was starting to think that Onigomo (I have no idea if I spelled that right) was a better villain when he had his three story-arc a long, long time ago.
Peace.
Hanyou 08-06-2006 09:47 PM
Inuyasha certainly served as my introduction to anime, and I loved it. I loved how some episodes were irrelevant filler and others were vital to the plot; I loved it even more for the fact that what took place wasn't so important as characterization.

I think what people are looking for when they watch Inuyasha is a long, drawn-out plot with numerous twists and such along the lines of Dragonball Z (a show which I cannot stand, quite honestly). What they fail to realize is that this wonderful gem is actually a character study more than anything else, and so the convoluted plot takes a backseat to the characters. I suppose you have to watch it long enough to care, but honestly I think characters like Sango and Miroku are introduced splendidly. Kagome and Inuyasha's troubled relationship has just enough chemistry. It never gets in the way of the story, or the other characters, but it's still quite good.

And frankly, I don't see what's so horrible about the plot. I wont' go over everything that makes it good, but there's quite a bit of substance there. Mind you, it can be all over the place, but there is much more to it than just the Naraku conflict.

In the end, it's not a great show, but it's not horrible. I think the hatred for it is just a backlash because early on, it was really quite overrated, which must have raised expectations a bit too high.
Schoolie 08-07-2006 10:30 AM
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Originally posted by Hanyou
Inuyasha certainly served as my introduction to anime, and I loved it. I loved how some episodes were irrelevant filler and others were vital to the plot; I loved it even more for the fact that what took place wasn't so important as characterization.

I suppose you have to watch it long enough to care, but honestly I think characters like Sango and Miroku are introduced splendidly. Kagome and Inuyasha's troubled relationship has just enough chemistry. It never gets in the way of the story, or the other characters, but it's still quite good.

And frankly, I don't see what's so horrible about the plot. I wont' go over everything that makes it good, but there's quite a bit of substance there. Mind you, it can be all over the place, but there is much more to it than just the Naraku conflict.

In the end, it's not a great show, but it's not horrible. I think the hatred for it is just a backlash because early on, it was really quite overrated, which must have raised expectations a bit too high.


I like InuYasha for a lot of the reasons you state here. It is a long show, so they can take their time. Miroku didn't appear until, what 10 episodes in? And Sango was another 10 or so episodes later, too, right?

Probably the biggest thing that annoys me is all the incarnations of Naraku. Kagura is an enjoyable character because of her ties to Naraku and trying to doule cross him. But other than that, I haven't enjoyed the babies/children and such. I also like the shorter 1-3 episode stories.

Sometimes I get caught up in wanting the show to pass so I can find out how it ends. But then I tell myself to sit back and enjoy the episodes. It'll end when it ends . . . sometime. Isn't there a saying about the journey, not the destination?
Raven 08-07-2006 02:52 PM
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Originally posted by Schoolie
Probably the biggest thing that annoys me is all the incarnations of Naraku. Kagura is an enjoyable character because of her ties to Naraku and trying to doule cross him. But other than that, I haven't enjoyed the babies/children and such. I also like the shorter 1-3 episode stories.


Yes, but the main problem with his incarnations is that they keep dieing too early. Naruka seems to make more powerful ones each time, yet they always die while useless ones like Kagura hang around forever. They should at least make her a bit more powerful now so she doesn’t look so useless. But either way, I still like Kagura and I really like Kanna.
Xel 08-16-2006 03:31 AM
Know what pissed me off a lot? Last night's episode. I guess I'll use spoiler tags, lolz.

spoiler (highlight to read):
Miroku finally confessing to Sango that she's special to him in a way that other girls aren't, basically proposing that they settle down together after Naraku's defeated. It was very cute and sweet and a nice change from all the f***ing ambiguity and wishiwashiness in the series in regards to relationships. Sango asks him if he'll quit womanizing, then. Cue comical "DURRRRR" scene in which it's obvious that he won't, and Sango acknowledges that he won't.


YEAH BECAUSE WE COULDN'T VERY WELL HAVE ANY SIGNIFICANT LONG-TERM CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT GOING ON, NOW COULD WE. Noooooot here, no sir! This is INUYASHA.
Raven 08-16-2006 02:01 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Xel
Know what pissed me off a lot? Last night's episode. I guess I'll use spoiler tags, lolz.

spoiler (highlight to read):
Miroku finally confessing to Sango that she's special to him in a way that other girls aren't, basically proposing that they settle down together after Naraku's defeated. It was very cute and sweet and a nice change from all the f***ing ambiguity and wishiwashiness in the series in regards to relationships. Sango asks him if he'll quit womanizing, then. Cue comical "DURRRRR" scene in which it's obvious that he won't, and Sango acknowledges that he won't.


YEAH BECAUSE WE COULDN'T VERY WELL HAVE ANY SIGNIFICANT LONG-TERM CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT GOING ON, NOW COULD WE. Noooooot here, no sir! This is INUYASHA.


That's really what I've been saying for a while. Its hard for me to understand why people think I'm strange for hating Miroku x Sango. I think it’s such a terribly forced relationship just used for the convenience of the characters. I’ve never really like Miroku, and it has gotten to the point where Sango has dropped from one of my favorites to one of my least favorites.
Schoolie 08-16-2006 07:47 PM
I think that it's just understood that they're a couple, and Sango just puts up (and pounds down) with Miroku's non-serious womanizing.

And think of reality, who else knows of girls who put up with their "boyfriend's" meandering behavior and such?
Ano Hito 08-21-2006 05:44 PM
Spoilers Inuyasha fans! This caused a sensation in some scanslating communities, though I don't really care:
spoiler (highlight to read):
Rin died. Meh.
Nine Kuze 08-21-2006 05:49 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Ano Hito
Spoilers Inuyasha fans! This caused a sensation in some scanslating communities, though I don't really care:
spoiler (highlight to read):
Rin died. Meh.

Really? Although true it's not that big a deal, I wonder how its going to happen, and how ol' boy Sesshomaru is going to take it.
Peace.
angelcakes 08-21-2006 06:19 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Nine XXVI
quote:
Originally posted by Ano Hito
Spoilers Inuyasha fans! This caused a sensation in some scanslating communities, though I don't really care:
spoiler (highlight to read):
Rin died. Meh.

Really? Although true it's not that big a deal, I wonder how its going to happen, and how ol' boy Sesshomaru is going to take it.
Peace.


Last I read:
spoiler (highlight to read):
He and Kohaku went to see why Tenseiga couldn't revive Rin or something like that. Something happened and the last script translation I read had Sesshomaru saying he'll get her back.


So...eh.