Did Roger defeat Alex because of Dorothy?

It's been a long time since I last posted here. What with practically no news at all of a Big O Season 3 nor any information on any continuation of the Big O mythology in any form...(too bad), the only thing I have left to talk about are the little things that remain to be discussed for Act 26...which ironically is called "The Show Must Go On". But I don't feel there is much of anything left to talk about. We seem to be going in circles.

In any case, I was wondering about Act 26's significance of Roger's victory over Big Fau and I'm wondering if this had anything to do with the fact that Dorothy chose to be with Roger in the end. Because I'm sure Alex had no idea that Dorothy had somehow regained consciousness and chose to stay with Roger in Big O for the final showdown. Now had Alex Rosewater found out about Dorothy's status with Roger at the end may or may not have changed the outcome of the duel...but I keep coming back to Big Ear's comment in the beginning...his taunting comment about Roger should be trying to save the "maiden"...a curiously phrased word...because in a way...that's what Dorothy really is...a maiden.

It turns out that it was the maiden who saves Roger Smith and possibly the entire Paradigm City complex.

I'm not at all sure that Roger really DID defeat Big Fau. Big Fau was obviously mortally wounded, but he was about to deliver a return blow before Angel erased him. Maybe it was going to end with both Megadeuses dead.

Dorothy certainly prevented Roger from drowning, and that's why he was alive to convince Angel to do the Reset his way, and not the way she would have done it otherwise.

Big Ear's comment was a reference to Roger acting as a knight in shining armor. The big question is whether the princess who needed recuing was Dorothy or Angel. I think it was Angel, this time.

(I don't think the virginity of either woman is relevant here. Nor is it particularly safe to make any assumptions about Dorothy, especially when Timothy Wayneright seems sorta creepy. Does Dorothy act like a robot, or like a human who has been abused?)

I agree with clockwork tomato, roger dodn't really beat fau, it was big venus, dorothy did save him from drowning tho...

There's a great deal of controversy about that final sequence between Big O and Big Fau. Some claiming Big O "won" after blasting its Big O weapon against it. But others claim Big Venus had to save Big O from certain destruction as Big Fau was going to fire it's final salvo AFTER Big O's weapon had used up it's full capacity. Still others claim that even if Big Fau had been able to fire the shot...Big O would have simply sidestepped it.

However, if we go with the "storyline" that's presented..then it becomes clear that Big Venus had to step in to stop the fight otherwise Big O would have been destroyed. But it doesn't answer the crucial question about Dorothy. Dorothy was with Roger during that final showdown..and it was Dorothy who plugged into Big O to give Roger the power he needed to fire that weapon against Big Fau. So the question remains...did Dorothy save Roger from certain death? Yes, she saved him from drowning...but that's not it. I'm talking about the deeper significance of her importance to Roger Smith. Notice that Big Fau had Dorothy's memories while Roger had Dorothy's "essence". So each one had Dorothy with him...but the edge went to Roger Smith.

I've had my doubts about whether or not Roger Smith even had the power necessary WITHOUT Dorothy to power up the Big O weapon against Big Fau. My guess is...no, he didn't. And I noticed a clear difference in Roger's fighting abillity against Big Fau prior to getting Dorothy back. There was a certain "spark" missing in Big O while it attempted to stop Big Fau. At this point Big Fau had everything...including Dorothy...something I'm not sure Roger knew at this point. It was only after Dorothy "saved" Roger from drowning that the "spark" came back in time for Big O to fight Big Fau to the finish. Roger Smith's drowning was symbolic of his loss of confidence to continue fighting Big Fau. He essentially gave up. It had to be Dorothy who brought him back. I'm even now thinking it was Dorothy who enlightened Roger Smith about what Paradigm City was when those lights penetrated Big O's hull. We never really saw the full extent of Dorothy's true power and that little scene when Roger was under water and getting that info about Paradigm's past...may have been Dorothy's doing as well. To give him the one thing he didn't have then...hope.

All of you are overlooking one simple detail as to why Big Fau COULD NOT have won that fight, even if it did get that last shot off.

Right before Big O's Final Stage, Big Fau jettisoned both of its arms as torpedoes to try and destroy Big O.

Now, I don't think I'm alone in seeing just how horrible of an attack this could be... I mean, as a "Big" Type War Machine, the arms are the strongest asset to the arsenal and the most versatile means of dealing damage overall.

This means that Big Fau intended that attack as a finishing blow. Those missiles were supposed to destroy Big O.


But they didn't. In fact, Big O shrugged them off as if they were paper balls hitting a freight train.


Now, as to the chest cannon, I find it hard to believe that the original builders of Big Fau would install a weapon system like the arm-missiles if they weren't the absolute most powerful thing that the Big had to offer. That's a last-ditch-effort desperation move. Therefore, I reason that the chest cannons simply cannot be as powerful as the arm-missiles... after all, would that make any sense?! If the chest cannons were Fau's most powerful weapons, that would completely obsolete the arm-missiles... and one would wonder why the hell Fau would even have such a useless attack in the first place.

Furthermore, Fau only had ONE of its cannons intact at the end of the battle, so right away, the attack was not going to deal full damage. Even if the arm-missiles were less powerful than the chest cannons, I doubt that a single cannon is more powerful than TWO arm-missiles, and you saw just how effective the missiles turned out to be.

Big O was sitting pretty at the end of that fight. It could have taken a direct hit from that cannon and laughed, regardless of whether or not it still had power to move.

Angel didn't really "save" Big O... she simply got there as fast as she could...

I agree with Spoderman. And on Dorothy's involvement in the end, I'm not totally sure. I don't think she SAVED him, except from drowing a tad bit earlier. It was Roger's own choice not to become One with Big O. In this choice, he exemplified the fact that he does not really care about memories, or about the Roger androids (a popular theory, one that I personally accept) before him. All he cares about is that he is the Roger Smith he knows himself to be, now at that time. And that he might have saved Dorothy from being "erased" in the end.

Two actors becoming knowledgable of the script.

I feel that Dorothy did indeed give Roger Smith the courage that was needed to defeat Big Fau. If Dorothy had not gone and dragged Roger out of the water and saved him from Drowning he would have been dead and then not have been able to even make it to the finial fight!

-Beth

DorothyFan1-

There's actually been some news regarding BIG-O 3. 12/6/05, the head writer of BIG-O essentially said the opportunity to do BIG-O 3 is still open if the demand can get high enough. In Fall 2004 Sean Akins of Toonami let it slip that BIG-O wasn't complete (and that it would be difficult for it to be completed). January 2006, Adult Swim is offering fans the chance to ask them questions directly (see this forum's thread on Ask AS) and it's the perfect time to directly show support for BIG-O 3.

Now, as for the issues at hand. Dorothy saved Roger from drowning and gave him courage. I think Fau used its hand missiles prior to the Final Stage move and thus it was in trouble. However, when Roger used Final Stage, it weakened BIG-O and left its mechanical structure wide open. I think if Fau got that last beam shot, it could have finished off Roger. BIG Venus saved the day there.

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Originally posted by Paradigm Dog DorothyFan1- There's actually been some news regarding BIG-O 3. 12/6/05, the head writer of BIG-O essentially said the opportunity to do BIG-O 3 is still open if the demand can get high enough. In Fall 2004 Sean Akins of Toonami let it slip that BIG-O wasn't complete (and that it would be difficult for it to be completed). January 2006, Adult Swim is offering fans the chance to ask them questions directly (see this forum's thread on Ask AS) and it's the perfect time to directly show support for BIG-O 3. Now, as for the issues at hand. Dorothy saved Roger from drowning and gave him courage. I think Fau used its hand missiles prior to the Final Stage move and thus it was in trouble. However, when Roger used Final Stage, it weakened BIG-O and left its mechanical structure wide open. I think if Fau got that last beam shot, it could have finished off Roger. BIG Venus saved the day there.

OMG! Paradigm Dog...this is incredible news. I can only cross my fingers and hope for the best. Now back to the question at hand...your comments are proof still that this final confrontation between Big Fau and Big O is a subject of heated debate. One side has good arguments about Big Fau getting ready to finish off Big O...and the other side coming up with logical arguments for just the opposite.

Just thought of something...wouldn't it be cool if "Anakin Skywalker" actor Hayden Christianssen gets the Roger Smith role so that he can once again be paired up with Natalie Portman as Dorothy? Awesome idea...anyway...although I have my suspicions about Big Venus' true motive for stopping the fight. My suspicions are that had Roger Smith been killed..assuming Big Fau was about to finish Big O off...I have had the nagging thought that Dorothy would also have died along with Roger Smith...CAUSING the entire Paradigm City scenario to go kaput. Remember, Dorothy's "memories" are embedded in Big Fau. So had Alex unknowningly fired that fatal cannon shot that could have killed Big O...Alex would have caused the destruction of the entire Paradigm City hologram with no chance to "backup" the data for a reset. All because Dorothy was with Roger Smith. I think the real reason for Big Venus' stepping into the fight was to prevent Dorothy from perishing. And this has been my keenest thought after thinking about Act 26 for a very long time. So you are all hearing this for the first time.

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Originally posted by Paradigm Dog DorothyFan1- There's actually been some news regarding BIG-O 3. 12/6/05, the head writer of BIG-O essentially said the opportunity to do BIG-O 3 is still open if the demand can get high enough. In Fall 2004 Sean Akins of Toonami let it slip that BIG-O wasn't complete (and that it would be difficult for it to be completed). January 2006, Adult Swim is offering fans the chance to ask them questions directly (see this forum's thread on Ask AS) and it's the perfect time to directly show support for BIG-O 3. Now, as for the issues at hand. Dorothy saved Roger from drowning and gave him courage. I think Fau used its hand missiles prior to the Final Stage move and thus it was in trouble. However, when Roger used Final Stage, it weakened BIG-O and left its mechanical structure wide open. I think if Fau got that last beam shot, it could have finished off Roger. BIG Venus saved the day there.

Damn, man! That is good news regarding the Season 3 of Big O. And we all know here that we can get that demand up, as if it wasn't already!

Anyway, I think that Big Fau actually could have finished off Roger and Dorothy since the cockpit was clearly open and Big O seemed weakened from the Final Stage attack and it was still anchored down to the ground with its waist anchors. I think Big Venus coming in at that exact moment in time was pure luck for Roger and I don't think it had anything to do with saving him.

But regarding the topic about Dorothy in this section, I think she was exactly the catalyist that Roger needed because up till then, Alex and Fau were tearing Roger and O a new one and Roger and O are much better than that. Dorothy saved Roger from not only drownin' but gave him what he needed to continue to fight the good fight... and it wasn't mouth to mouth.
Peace.

...Yeah, Big Fau's arm missiles??? WTF was that all about?
Peace.

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Originally posted by Nine XXVI quote: Originally posted by Paradigm Dog DorothyFan1- There's actually been some news regarding BIG-O 3. 12/6/05, the head writer of BIG-O essentially said the opportunity to do BIG-O 3 is still open if the demand can get high enough. In Fall 2004 Sean Akins of Toonami let it slip that BIG-O wasn't complete (and that it would be difficult for it to be completed). January 2006, Adult Swim is offering fans the chance to ask them questions directly (see this forum's thread on Ask AS) and it's the perfect time to directly show support for BIG-O 3. Now, as for the issues at hand. Dorothy saved Roger from drowning and gave him courage. I think Fau used its hand missiles prior to the Final Stage move and thus it was in trouble. However, when Roger used Final Stage, it weakened BIG-O and left its mechanical structure wide open. I think if Fau got that last beam shot, it could have finished off Roger. BIG Venus saved the day there. Damn, man! That is good news regarding the Season 3 of Big O. And we all know here that we can get that demand up, as if it wasn't already! Anyway, I think that Big Fau actually could have finished off Roger and Dorothy since the cockpit was clearly open and Big O seemed weakened from the Final Stage attack and it was still anchored down to the ground with its waist anchors. I think Big Venus coming in at that exact moment in time was pure luck for Roger and I don't think it had anything to do with saving him. But regarding the topic about Dorothy in this section, I think she was exactly the catalyist that Roger needed because up till then, Alex and Fau were tearing Roger and O a new one and Roger and O are much better than that. Dorothy saved Roger from not only drownin' but gave him what he needed to continue to fight the good fight... and it wasn't mouth to mouth. Peace. ...Yeah, Big Fau's arm missiles??? WTF was that all about? Peace.

I'm sorry...but your observation about Big O's anchors could be a very significant point here. Somebody please check the Big O DVD for Act 26 on this one. This is the FIRST time I'm hearing explicitly that Big O's anchors are STILL in place AFTER firing the Big O cannon. This is a huge clue as to whether Roger Smith/Dorothy could have survived that final shot from Big Fau. If your observation pans out..then this is a big hint that Big Fau could have finished off Big O had he gotten off that final cannon shot. Very sharp observation. All we need now is someone taking a snapshot of Big O post Big Cannon shot to confirm this. If Big O's anchors are still there after the shot...then this is one VERY big clue that Big O was too weak to move had Big Fau fired that shot.

At least we can agree that Dorothy definitely gave Roger hope in that showdown. If Dorothy hadn't been there...Roger would have given up and drowned. It would have been over and Big Fau the new order's Megadeus.

Again, somebody check Act 26 to confirm whether Big O's anchors are still in the ground after that shot. If they are...this is a visual clue that Big O was too weak to move. Remember that during the duel prior to Big O being thrown into the sea...that Big O DID fire cannon rockets at Big Fau and the anchors are in place. But after the firing of the missiles...Big O released the waist anchors to wait for the smoke to clear.

Your signature depicts Fau right before it uses THE LAMEST ATTACK EVER

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Originally posted by DorothyFan1 quote: Originally posted by Nine XXVI quote: Originally posted by Paradigm Dog DorothyFan1- There's actually been some news regarding BIG-O 3. 12/6/05, the head writer of BIG-O essentially said the opportunity to do BIG-O 3 is still open if the demand can get high enough. In Fall 2004 Sean Akins of Toonami let it slip that BIG-O wasn't complete (and that it would be difficult for it to be completed). January 2006, Adult Swim is offering fans the chance to ask them questions directly (see this forum's thread on Ask AS) and it's the perfect time to directly show support for BIG-O 3. Now, as for the issues at hand. Dorothy saved Roger from drowning and gave him courage. I think Fau used its hand missiles prior to the Final Stage move and thus it was in trouble. However, when Roger used Final Stage, it weakened BIG-O and left its mechanical structure wide open. I think if Fau got that last beam shot, it could have finished off Roger. BIG Venus saved the day there. Damn, man! That is good news regarding the Season 3 of Big O. And we all know here that we can get that demand up, as if it wasn't already! Anyway, I think that Big Fau actually could have finished off Roger and Dorothy since the cockpit was clearly open and Big O seemed weakened from the Final Stage attack and it was still anchored down to the ground with its waist anchors. I think Big Venus coming in at that exact moment in time was pure luck for Roger and I don't think it had anything to do with saving him. But regarding the topic about Dorothy in this section, I think she was exactly the catalyist that Roger needed because up till then, Alex and Fau were tearing Roger and O a new one and Roger and O are much better than that. Dorothy saved Roger from not only drownin' but gave him what he needed to continue to fight the good fight... and it wasn't mouth to mouth. Peace. ...Yeah, Big Fau's arm missiles??? WTF was that all about? Peace. I'm sorry...but your observation about Big O's anchors could be a very significant point here. Somebody please check the Big O DVD for Act 26 on this one. This is the FIRST time I'm hearing explicitly that Big O's anchors are STILL in place AFTER firing the Big O cannon. This is a huge clue as to whether Roger Smith/Dorothy could have survived that final shot from Big Fau. If your observation pans out..then this is a big hint that Big Fau could have finished off Big O had he gotten off that final cannon shot. Very sharp observation. All we need now is someone taking a snapshot of Big O post Big Cannon shot to confirm this. If Big O's anchors are still there after the shot...then this is one VERY big clue that Big O was too weak to move had Big Fau fired that shot. At least we can agree that Dorothy definitely gave Roger hope in that showdown. If Dorothy hadn't been there...Roger would have given up and drowned. It would have been over and Big Fau the new order's Megadeus. Again, somebody check Act 26 to confirm whether Big O's anchors are still in the ground after that shot. If they are...this is a visual clue that Big O was too weak to move. Remember that during the duel prior to Big O being thrown into the sea...that Big O DID fire cannon rockets at Big Fau and the anchors are in place. But after the firing of the missiles...Big O released the waist anchors to wait for the smoke to clear.

Thanks, and I check my tape of Act 26 just to be sure. And I found this picture while going through the website:



True, its before Big O actually releases the Final Stage attack but you can see the anchors in the ground. Just wanted to throw this in here.
Peace.

I recall some of the anchors breaking, but I still think some were in the ground. Regardless, if BIG-O has a huge hole through its central structure (the destruction of the Final Stage cannon burned out BIG-O's chest! and no doubt all the wiring/gears, etc), I can't imagine it could move effectively, if at all.

Also, as for Big Fau's arm missiles, they were obviously meant for a final WATER-based attack. That's why they didn't work so well flying through the air. The blades would have propelled these missiles MUCH faster under water. It would have been like a heavy torpedo that drills and then explodes. (remember how fast Fau was underwater being moved by its arm blades alone: Those blades tugged the entire hulking weight of Big Fau AND Big-O! If they were by themselves, they'd be super-powerful under water).

In case anyoen missed it earlier: "Send in BIG-O 3 questions/queries to [AS] via askas@adultswim.com by January 31st! Kim Manning of Adult Swim will be posting answers to questions about anime acquisitions, etc in mid-February.

If we focus the questions on BIG-O 3--show our love for BIG-O--someone is bound to get a response."

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Originally posted by Paradigm Dog I recall some of the anchors breaking, but I still think some were in the ground. Regardless, if BIG-O has a huge hole through its central structure (the destruction of the Final Stage cannon burned out BIG-O's chest! and no doubt all the wiring/gears, etc), I can't imagine it could move effectively, if at all. Also, as for Big Fau's arm missiles, they were obviously meant for a final WATER-based attack. That's why they didn't work so well flying through the air. The blades would have propelled these missiles MUCH faster under water. It would have been like a heavy torpedo that drills and then explodes. (remember how fast Fau was underwater being moved by its arm blades alone: Those blades tugged the entire hulking weight of Big Fau AND Big-O! If they were by themselves, they'd be super-powerful under water). In case anyoen missed it earlier: "Send in BIG-O 3 questions/queries to [AS] via askas@adultswim.com by January 31st! Kim Manning of Adult Swim will be posting answers to questions about anime acquisitions, etc in mid-February. If we focus the questions on BIG-O 3--show our love for BIG-O--someone is bound to get a response."

Thanks for checking that out, Paradigm Dog. I kinda forgot about doing that with Act 26. But yeah, even if Big O wasn't still anchored, the Finals Stage attack did do a hell of a lot of damage to Big O's systems so it probably couldn't move nonetheless.

Also, regarding Big Fau's arm missile attack , there was a similar thread about the possible notion of Big Fau being able to fly in the air or something round that context. But the thing is that Big Fau is the water Big, and its main terrain is in the water, such as Big O has land and Big Duo has land. Fau had the "home field disadvantage" you could say and for a while, was out bigging Big O but I think the arm missile attack was meant to be used in water as it was seemed to be designed for water use and would (and was) probably be useless in the use of battle in the air.

And thanks for the e-mail address and I'll get to that. Big O Season 3!!!!!
Peace.

I'm too tired to read all the posts so I'm sorry if I'm repeating stuff.
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Roger Smith's drowning was symbolic of his loss of confidence to continue fighting Big Fau. He essentially gave up. It had to be Dorothy who brought him back.

Hmmm. That's defiantly what I thought, after all although Roger is obviously upset at Dorothy's apparent 'death' it doesn't seem to of hit him, and it's only his common sense telling him to be upset which allows us to see his grief (pretending it's real here I'm afraid), with his drowning, both literally and metaphorically, it's his sub-grief finally hitting him and causing him to fall into despair; okay, so that was messed up, for example; discovering a member of your family is dead, you’re sad because you know you must be, you’re told to go home from work/school (Ect…) and you go to bed, possibly feeling numb and working on automatic, you go to bed/sit down, THEN start to cry as the grief which had been prowling your sub-conscious pounces.
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Random thought:
As Fau is obviously hunting for his true Dominus like many of the other Megadui (none seem to like having a mad Dominus) and had been given Dorothy’s memories is it possible he was jealous of Big O’s luck in finding a good Dominus, this is a strange thought which, ‘cos the Megadui are deffinatly semi-sentient, came as I was thinking of the way which Big O and others, specifically Fau, fight.

I think the clues are significant here: Big Fau's colors are suspiciously feminine in nature...white and pink? Big Fau's eye color/emerald green...matches a certain Android we've come to love and there was a hint about a prior human whose template was used to create the one we've come to know...may have been Dominus class....so the evidence is mounting that Dorotny is Big Fau's pilot. And based on my pure speculation and hunch...Big O's Roger Smith may become the next Schwarzwald (talk about a dark ending!) and end up facing Big Fau again...only with Dorothy as the pilot. Now that's a duel that would definitely rock and be huge.

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Roger Smith may become the next Schwarzwald

I could live with that ^_^.
But on a more serious note, if what you're saying is true (for a given measure of truth) then is Dorothy the next negotiator? And Roger the 'bad guy', after all, history repeats it's self, okay, so it's an old saying but I like old sayings.

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white and pink? Big Fau's eye color/emerald green

Am I missing something? If we go by the dress Dorothy wears at The Nightin’ Gale, which was red and black they seem to be the more important colours to her*… Or rather red is, she also wears a red cloak (RD, Dorothy and Angel all wear the same, style of, cloak.)
And the Bigs appear to have colour combinations;

Big O: Black + Orange
Big Duo: Red + Black (not Black + red ‘cos that would be more black than red)
Big Fau: White + pink
Big Venus : Grey + pink / negative

Going by this Dorothy is the more likely to become the next Journalist (which I’ve come to think of as the opposite to the Negotiator) and Roger will stay in his normal part on the Paradigm stage.

But I’m not sure that could ever happen on the long run, except in a really twisted Paradigm many re-sets later or down another trouser leg of time.

*That and the origional Dorothy's eyes were violet

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Originally posted by Paradigm DogAlso, as for Big Fau's arm missiles, they were obviously meant for a final WATER-based attack. That's why they didn't work so well flying through the air. The blades would have propelled these missiles MUCH faster under water. It would have been like a heavy torpedo that drills and then explodes. (remember how fast Fau was underwater being moved by its arm blades alone: Those blades tugged the entire hulking weight of Big Fau AND Big-O! If they were by themselves, they'd be super-powerful under water).

I've never understood the logic behind this. So Big Fau propels himself through the water with his arms, and he has a weapon that involves shooting his propulsion system at an enemy ... at which point he, what? Sinks and dies? And this proves he's a water-based big? I don't get it.

Personally, I think the arm/rockets are lame in Act 26 because all the weapons in Act 26 are lame. The Japanese sometimes can't tell lame attacks from good ones. I've seen arm/rockets before, and they're always staged as if the animators think they're cool, and they're always lame.

Not only is the concept lame, but it was implemented in a lame way. Big Fau and Big O are facing each other across a stretch of open ground, yet the arm/rockets go through a skyscraper. Did the skyscraper jump in between the two Megadeuses and sacrifice itself to save Big O? Did the arm rockets veer wildly in all directions? No clue.

The Final Stage was just as bad. It's a one-shot weapon that doesn't destroy its target because it can't be aimed properly, but it causes massive collateral damage and kills thousands of innocent people. That's pretty lame. Also, out of character -- Roger Smith doesn't approve of killing innocent people (though the animators forget this from time to time).

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Originally posted by A Clockwork Tomato quote: Originally posted by Paradigm DogAlso, as for Big Fau's arm missiles, they were obviously meant for a final WATER-based attack. That's why they didn't work so well flying through the air. The blades would have propelled these missiles MUCH faster under water. It would have been like a heavy torpedo that drills and then explodes. (remember how fast Fau was underwater being moved by its arm blades alone: Those blades tugged the entire hulking weight of Big Fau AND Big-O! If they were by themselves, they'd be super-powerful under water). I've never understood the logic behind this. So Big Fau propels himself through the water with his arms, and he has a weapon that involves shooting his propulsion system at an enemy ... at which point he, what? Sinks and dies? And this proves he's a water-based big? I don't get it. Personally, I think the arm/rockets are lame in Act 26 because all the weapons in Act 26 are lame. The Japanese sometimes can't tell lame attacks from good ones. I've seen arm/rockets before, and they're always staged as if the animators think they're cool, and they're always lame. Not only is the concept lame, but it was implemented in a lame way. Big Fau and Big O are facing each other across a stretch of open ground, yet the arm/rockets go through a skyscraper. Did the skyscraper jump in between the two Megadeuses and sacrifice itself to save Big O? Did the arm rockets veer wildly in all directions? No clue. The Final Stage was just as bad. It's a one-shot weapon that doesn't destroy its target because it can't be aimed properly, but it causes massive collateral damage and kills thousands of innocent people. That's pretty lame. Also, out of character -- Roger Smith doesn't approve of killing innocent people (though the animators forget this from time to time).

Clockwork Tomato...long time no see! LOL, that was good. I laughed when I read this. Yes...I forgot about the buildings that Fau's arms blasted through. Where did they come from? I suspect the animators had to "resolve" the episode fairly quickly at that point because they didn't have the budget to continue the episode longer than it ran for?

However, I'm taking seriously the idea that the rocket arms were meant for underwater combat. It does sound logical and makes sense. It seems to explain why they're so slow in the air. Big Fau was the Water element and essentially didn't have the upper advantage here....the scene where it was underwater shows it was way superior to Big O. Although this scene did get me to think that perhaps Alex Rosewater wasn't aware of this natural advantage Big Fau has for underwater engagement. Otherwise if he had known this..Big Fau would have kept underwater and lured Big O there where Fau could have defeated Big O conclusively.