Union Aeroplanes?
| Robot7290 |
01-11-2006 10:53 PM |
Are those airplanes in (forgot episode #) from the union, and what is thier significance? This was one of the one little mysteries from the Big O that I could never really connect to anything else...
| Mr. Peabody |
01-11-2006 11:03 PM |
They're supposed to be Union planes, but in the final episode it's revealed that Paradigm City isn't being attacked.
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Originally posted by Mr. Peabody
They're supposed to be Union planes, but in the final episode it's revealed that Paradigm City isn't being attacked. |
WooooooOOOOooo
| Tony Waynewrong |
01-12-2006 08:00 AM |
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Originally posted by Mr. Peabody
They're supposed to be Union planes, but in the final episode it's revealed that Paradigm City isn't being attacked. |
True. In fact, I believe Gordon Rosewater went as far as to say that the Union didn't even exist. So, what were those dots in attack formation? I suspect that it was part of the "special effects" that was produced by the "ostentatious stage". Then again, this is only a theory.
| Nine Kuze |
01-12-2006 11:21 AM |
Ol' boy Gordon did say to Vera, Roger, and Angel that the Union doesn't exist. And that carries a confusing note because than if the Union doesn't exist, then you carried out all those missions where the people let go of a red balloon? And you were those people singing with Vera in 'Stripes'? Makes you think...
But there were no airplanes. The Military Police and Big Fau were firing at objects they thought were enemy weapons in the sky that first attacked them, but the truth is, they were firing at nothing. Or actually, they were firing at the superdome at the sky and every time they fired, one of the giant lightbulbs dropped and destroyed a part of the city.
So, basically, Rosewater and his boys were firing at nothing and they caused all the destruction of Paradigm City at the end basically by themselves.
Peace.
| Zopwx2 |
01-12-2006 12:11 PM |
I think they were just a red herring.
We think the union has planes, but it turns out to be just stagelights or some otehr random metal bs up in teh sky.
| Mr. Peabody |
01-12-2006 12:25 PM |
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Originally posted by Nine XXVI
Ol' boy Gordon did say to Vera, Roger, and Angel that the Union doesn't exist. And that carries a confusing note because than if the Union doesn't exist, then you carried out all those missions where the people let go of a red balloon? And you were those people singing with Vera in 'Stripes'? Makes you think...
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Indeed.
Perhaps Gordon is the reason for the amnesia afflicting Paradigm City. He was the architect, and made the people dependant on his company and in later years, his son Alex. Gordon says the Union doesn't exist, and Vera, though shocked, accepts it. When Gordon began to lose his memory, so too did the people of Paradigm City.
There is a Union opposing Paradigm City. They brought over the foreign megadeuses, and the military police arrested several Union members. There just wasn't a Union air force.
| Nine Kuze |
01-12-2006 02:32 PM |
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Originally posted by Mr. Peabody
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Originally posted by Nine XXVI
Ol' boy Gordon did say to Vera, Roger, and Angel that the Union doesn't exist. And that carries a confusing note because than if the Union doesn't exist, then you carried out all those missions where the people let go of a red balloon? And you were those people singing with Vera in 'Stripes'? Makes you think...
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Indeed.
Perhaps Gordon is the reason for the amnesia afflicting Paradigm City. He was the architect, and made the people dependant on his company and in later years, his son Alex. Gordon says the Union doesn't exist, and Vera, though shocked, accepts it. When Gordon began to lose his memory, so too did the people of Paradigm City.
There is a Union opposing Paradigm City. They brought over the foreign megadeuses, and the military police arrested several Union members. There just wasn't a Union air force. |
Um, that could be true. There were obviously people against Paradigm City (like in Winter Night Phantom, Eyewitness, Stripes, Vera, Angel, etc.) but it just seems weird or rather stupid that only a Union air force doesn't exist.
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| We think the union has planes, but it turns out to be just stagelights or some otehr random metal bs up in teh sky. |
That's what it appears to be in Act 25. There were no planes but it was actually the superdome being revealed. But I've always thought that it contradicted with the end of I believe, Act 23, when actual airplanes were shown at the end.
Peace.
| Robot7290 |
01-13-2006 10:19 PM |
Ding! I have an idea!!!:
Ok, I remember reading a threas saying that the union and whatever existed in the wastlelandish desert outside Paradigm City never existed because Angel, the director of the stage production that is the Big O, never went into detail about it. Therefore, it never existed. Maybe Vera, the arrested aliens, and the singers from "Stripes", were simply actors playing a role they didn't understand. It's very hard, the whole Union debate, because Alex and Alan Gabriel do go on "vacation" in a foreign land. As for the planes, they may be special effects, but I'm truly not sure. I think when Alex ordered the MP to fire at the sky, he was... I was going to say at the stage lights, but then again, wasn't he surprised when he saw them? If he wasn't, and my meory did truly fail me, then he would have fired at the lights to destroy the city and "reset" it. But that raised another intruiging question: What did Alex plan on doing after Paradigm City was destroyed. He had no idea Angel, playing the role of Big Venus, would show up. Hmm, maybe I am not really opposed to a season 3 after all...
| Zopwx2 |
01-13-2006 10:33 PM |
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Originally posted by Nine XXVI
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Originally posted by Mr. Peabody
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Originally posted by Nine XXVI
Ol' boy Gordon did say to Vera, Roger, and Angel that the Union doesn't exist. And that carries a confusing note because than if the Union doesn't exist, then you carried out all those missions where the people let go of a red balloon? And you were those people singing with Vera in 'Stripes'? Makes you think...
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Indeed.
Perhaps Gordon is the reason for the amnesia afflicting Paradigm City. He was the architect, and made the people dependant on his company and in later years, his son Alex. Gordon says the Union doesn't exist, and Vera, though shocked, accepts it. When Gordon began to lose his memory, so too did the people of Paradigm City.
There is a Union opposing Paradigm City. They brought over the foreign megadeuses, and the military police arrested several Union members. There just wasn't a Union air force. |
Um, that could be true. There were obviously people against Paradigm City (like in Winter Night Phantom, Eyewitness, Stripes, Vera, Angel, etc.) but it just seems weird or rather stupid that only a Union air force doesn't exist.
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| We think the union has planes, but it turns out to be just stagelights or some otehr random metal bs up in teh sky. |
That's what it appears to be in Act 25. There were no planes but it was actually the superdome being revealed. But I've always thought that it contradicted with the end of I believe, Act 23, when actual airplanes were shown at the end.
Peace. |
I don't think they EVER Show any planes ever.
Some tiangles in teh sky sure, but it was alwasy vague.
| Robot7290 |
01-13-2006 10:40 PM |
I think they were planes because they flew in formation, and if I'm correct weren't there the sounds of planes in the background?
| paul1290 |
01-14-2006 07:50 PM |
It could be that planes were real but they had no pilots or weapons and they were just decoys.
It's very unlikely but it's still an idea worth considering.
| spiked-knives |
02-04-2006 03:59 PM |
I believe there were planes, I mean you do u see them in an attack formation, we all see them flying. If it was apart of the stage i don't think it would be moving. Now i know gordon said the union does not exist, but i think he meant it in another context, as in "the union not what you percieve it as. It is just a gathering of vengeful people in the desert" Just one way of what he said could be taken.
btw what were those lights falling down onto pardigm? stage lights i suppose?