Roger Smith's many outfits

Robot7290 01-03-2006 03:19 AM
Hi! This is my first post, and loving it Tongue

This has probably been asked before (did a bit of searching, but couldn;t find anything directly pertinent), but does anyone know the name of the style of suit Roger wears. And maybe even links leading to a place where I could buy his jacket/pants/tie/shoes? Just saying, if I have to look formal, why not look like Roger Smith as well? His robe would be awesome too Big Grin
The_Big_G 01-03-2006 06:18 PM
Roger wears a 40s retro-style two-button double breasted suit with "8 buttons to show". That's a little wierd, since six buttons to show is pretty much all I've ever seen in a real suit. The buttons are what I'd assume are polished silver buttons (nobody in their right mind would wear bright white plastic buttons on a good black suit...however...we *do* know that Roger has horrible taste). I'd assume that for a real-life suit, you'd want to look around some fabric stores for silver buttons. The jacket has side vents and peak lapels...definitely a 40s style of lapel, although 40s style coats are usually unvented.

The tailoring of the jacket is form-fit at the waist. The jacket has no breast pocket...which deviates from reality a bit...you'll never find a suit without a breast pocket for a pocket silk.

I think the suit kind of looks like #12 on this page I found:
http://www.tomjames.com/custsuits/coatmodels.asp

The pants cut is a bit too narrow for a 40s style suit, more along the lines of a late 50s or 60s, when sharkskin suits became popular. Sharkskin isn't really shark skin, it's just a weave of wool that has a shimmery look to it, because they weave a slightly different color yarn into the warp of the weave. Wool gabardine also has a nice sheen to it, although it's mostly due to the density of the weave.

The pants are a little incongruous with the jacket, as well as his braces (suspenders). In the 50s, suit pants became narrower and baggy pants went out of style...narrower pants don't require braces to hold them up as they're fit to the waist. A belt works just fine for those.

Based on the highlights in the animation, I'd assume that the fabric of the suit was a dense-weave wool of some kind. Gabardine's a little too light but an italian wool would make for an excellent R. Smith suit.

You can probably dig around in vintage or second hand stores for a black double-breasted suit. You won't find something quite as expensive as italian wool, but you might find a reasonable likeness for less than $150...depending on the store, maybe as little as $20 or $50 bucks.

A visit to a tailor can get the waist on the coat taken in, and the pants altered to fit you accordingly. Bring good pictures with you, as that will help the tailor know what kind of look you're going for. Bring the silver buttons you find. Don't forget that he's got those same color buttons on the sleeves of his jacket, as well as for the braces on his pants. Depending on how much has to be done to the coat and pants...you're talking anywhere from $40 to $80 bucks to have the suit tailored to fit.

I'd suggest a simple white collar shirt. You can get decent ones at Mervyns or some other department store. If you don't want to go cheap, you can drop up to $200 bucks on a custom made shirt, but hey...if you can afford that kind of dough on a shirt, maybe you should be investing in constructing your own big O.

As far as Mr. Smith's tie is concerned, I'd assume that it's a black silk tie with a white print stripe. I'm not sure where where you'd get one. You can feasibly buy a black tie and have the white stripe screened onto it, but I'm not sure how one would go about it. I'd recommend against trying to sew a strip of white cloth down the center of the tie. It just looks so cheesy in those cosplay photos we've all seen.

As far as shoes, Mr. Smith wears a pointy-toed black shoe, kind of like these:
http://www.allenedmonds.com/webapp/wcs/s...=1&occasion=189

or these:
http://www.allenedmonds.com/webapp/wcs/s...=1&occasion=189

Of course, you don't have to drop that much money on a pointy-toed pair of shoes. You can probably find a similar pair for much cheaper.

Oh, and I almost forgot...black gloves. You want to drop a little coin on those. They usually carry the form-fitting kind that are popular with assassins at haberdasheries and gentlemen's clothing stores. I know of a store here in SF that has them, but they're about $60 bucks for a pair.

All in all, you'll probably drop as little as $250 to get a good ensemble together. If you're patient and really dig around for the right suit, you don't have to spend it all at once, just slowly gather up all the pieces until you finally have it all together.
Robot7290 01-03-2006 06:33 PM
Thanks. I'm not looking for these for cosplay, just for looking nice, because although It is Roger Smith's attire, it also is a style of formalwear. So it works out double for me Smile
The_Big_G 01-03-2006 06:36 PM
Yeah, I understand...The best thing about Roger Smith is that his suit is really feasible to put together...and not look like a cosplayer. You could wear a suit like that every day...although the silver buttons would be a little flashy.
R.Smith 01-03-2006 06:59 PM
Dang! The_Big_G, that's the most detailed description I've ever seen on Roger's attire!

This will definitely come in handy in the future! Wink
The_Big_G 01-04-2006 02:04 PM
...and yet I failed to remember his wristwatch!

Now that's an item of his outfit that I have no idea where to buy! I don't think Movado has a timepiece equipped with an LCD video screen, digital signal transceiver, compressed gas grappling hook with sixty feet of microfilament line and a cutting microlaser.

I think it's gonna' cost just a little bit...
Robot7290 01-16-2006 05:00 PM
Hey, sorry to dig this thread back up a page, but since this was originally about Roger Smith's apparel, I'm going to go ahead and ask another question.

What type of sunglasses does Roger Smith wear?

They might not be actual "sunglasses". Shades maybe... I'm not sure of the definite name of the style of lightly-tinted rectangles that he wears. I'm asking this because I'm bad with words. And a Big thankyuO to The Big G, because he actually bothers to look stuff up when I couldn't find it. Thanks for going out of your way for this!
The_Big_G 01-17-2006 04:16 PM
hrm...that I don't know. There's so many designs for sunglasses, but I've never seen any that have the flattened hexagonal shape with such sharpened corners.

I mocked up a quick pair, based on my extrapolation from the 2D to 3D.





The closest I could think of would be the Police brand. They're more squarish, and the corners are rounded, but they have that flattened look at would be a decent analogue:

http://www.bargainsunspecs.com/acatalog/...nglasses_6.html

problem is that they're buku bucks. I've seen el-cheapo counterfeits before, but not in the style I was looking for.

Serengeti Lucca's are also pricy, and not a perfect match.
http://www.athleticshades.com/sunglasses/serengeti/lucca.htm


Oh, quick edit...I found Roger's overcoat...a whole rack of them, in fact. There's a vintage store in North Beach that has hand-tailored black wool topcoats which appear to be dead stock (i.e. never worn!). The price is really great for the quality of the fabric and the craftsmanship, and they look to be a perfect match.
Lost_Cyborg 01-21-2006 02:47 PM
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His robe would be awesome too

I've got very close, I have a thick very dark blue one, but I dream of the day I get the chance to get a dark green* on in the same style as Roger's. However I am getting some black coffee cups soon I hope ^_^.


*Black?
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On the memtion of his glasses, I think I saw something similer once, but not the same, I think you'd have to get them bespoke.
Mugiwara Luffy 01-21-2006 03:45 PM
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Originally posted by Lost_Cyborg
*Black?
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On the memtion of his glasses, I think I saw something similer once, but not the same, I think you'd have to get them bespoke.


I think it would be black, since Roger Smith seems to wear nothing but.

Kudos on the use of the word "bespoke". You don't see that often.