Gundam X in the corporate doghouse? Why?

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Originally posted by Gaddes quote: This is a NEW FILM. Good god Bandai, enough of this SEED crap. True Destiny ended with a cliff hanger but I guess we have to be grateful that it isn't an entire season. quote: I have a feeling CE really is the new UC now. That is most defiantly the vide I’m getting and yeah I do see more SEED coming as there is more Astray manga, which I'm sure they will animate. Speaking of new Gundam anime, that manga "The Lost War Chronicles" would make a great OVA.

Well, SUNRISE might throw us a UC OVA bone in a few years. The Lost War Chronicles does look pretty good. I saw artwork from it before it was a manga when it was an import PS2 game. MAHQ.net notes that its main character is a lot like Blue Destiny's Yuu Kajima, and the world setup is akin to 08th Team, Blue Destiny, and Rise from the Ashes, so it would probably make an excellent anime. (however, I still feel bad that Blue Destiny would get the short end of the stick, but at least it'd be better than endless SEED).

I wonder if BANDAI USA will release other series alongside SEED-D, or if they'll just exclusively release SEED Destiny/Stargazer/etc DVDs. In other words, I'm wondering how the additions of Destiny SE, Stargazer, and the new movie will affect the release schedule of the already black-balled Gundam X?

No, if they throw us a UC OVA it should be animateing Crossbone Gundam. It is the least they can do after F91 got the short stick.

I think that SEED will be dominating the scene for quite sometime. No offense, but the old Gundams, while uh ... can someone really call any of the Gundam franchise "great"? Well, at any rate, the old Gundams time is pretty much finished. The majority of Gundam fans like the SEED universe - and there is no escaping the fact that SEED does sell.

One of the key factors here is that Bandai doesn't need to good back to the old Gundams. They don't have too. They have no reason to do it - just like they have no reason to continue on with Big O.

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Originally posted by ScionofDestiny One of the key factors here is that Bandai doesn't need to good back to the old Gundams. They don't have too. They have no reason to do it - just like they have no reason to continue on with Big O.

You know, I never thought of it that way. It makes sense, though. When Bandai USA said they planned to bring every Gundam to the US back in like 2000, the Gundam series had pretty much come to a close with TURN-A. It would be a while before SEED appeared. But once it did, it created a large, modern franchise, making the old Gundam series obsolete in pop culture so to speak. Well, here's hoping there's some mercy.

Cheers to mercy.

Just a heads up. Gundam X: Under the Moonlight is still going strong I hear. It's a manga taking place after the series with new charecters. It's good stuff. So hey if they want to animate it, then that would be quite awesome.

I thought that was...blatantly obvious. They're making oodles of money off of SEED, so they're gonna keep milking it until it dries up. Why bother taking a risk with more UC that may or may not be successful?

Ya know it just dawned on me. I think the MSV would make a a good choice for say short 15 minute OVA's. There is a wealth of unused goodies.

Said it before, but as far as Gundam goes I like SEED. Gundam in general never really appealed to me much - well, at least not in comparison to Evangelion or Big O. The fact that there is so much of it seems to lessen it's creative value.

I guess what it amounts to is that, in my case, I won't be overly bothered if Gundam X never gets dubbed. To start with, all dubbed Gundams seem just terrible to me - Wing was alright. The only anime I've ever watched where the dub seems flat out better than the sub is Big O.

Evangelion while brilliant in philosophy had average dub/subs all round - or maybe it was just Shinji who ruined it for everybody. At any rate, his English voice actor said he was getting really, really sick of Shinji by the time End of Evangelion rolled round - which I think was reflected the whole "I hate myself" theme quite nicely.

I don't care much for most (but not all) of Gundam for the same reason I never liked school cafeteria food. Cafeteria food - you stand in line with dozens of people, get the exact same trays, same food, in the same spots on the tray, at the same table, with the same people, from the same lunch ladies.

Gundam is like cafeteria food to me. Convenient but not delicious. Even so, in every month's menu, there is usually one dish that you look forward too more than the rest and always one dish that seems better than the other. This would be those few rare times where Gundam seems to be more than average.

All right, opinion of shows content aside, if Gundam X is not on a priority list because its old, I can't imagine that stuff like ZZ is. Yet, as of 2004, Gundam ZZ had supposedly commenced English dubbing:
http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=120113

"voice director Rob Bakewell...mentioned that, while he's not involved with the project, he believes that Blue Water Studios is currently working on the dub for Gundam ZZ."

Recently toonzone.net had an interview with Toonami's head guys, and they said the future of Gundam on CN is basically nonexistant. Gundam Wing was the only one that did well.

I guess I'm curious how decisions are being made if indeed ZZ is next in line to be dubbed. Zeta DVDs couldn't have done that well, and that seems to go against the SEED priority.

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Zeta DVDs couldn't have done that well, and that seems to go against the SEED priority.

Actually I remember bandai saying the Zeta DVD's sold quite well. I have the DVD boxset thing they released, and it sold out pretty quick. So just by that, Bandai's whole "oh U.C Gundam doesn't sell good" line is pretty much moot.

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ZZ Gundam

If they are actually dubbing ZZ, the that would leave, V, Turn A, and X. So it's a safe bet that X would be the last to come out.

It's not so much that it "doesn't sell" as "SEED sells more". They have a potential present (or real) dyansty on their hands with SEED. The Gundam staff can probably only work on so many Gundam projects at a time. I'm not saying the older Gundams won't sell - I'm saying they won't sell as much.

In which case they become pointless.

Of course, I suppose the dubbing could be done outside the Gundam staff. Still ...

Putting all things aside, I'm sure Bandai will do whatever makes them more money in the long run. As a world-class company, they will go out of their way to find the greatest lawyers, consultants, businessmen/women, and artists (Directors, script writers, translators) that they can find.

In conclusion, accepting the probability that Bandai knows far more about the international anime business than we do (at least financially), I'd say they, being ruled as most companies by the laws of logic, will find the mathematically proven way to make the most money.

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Originally posted by ScionofDestiny It's not so much that it "doesn't sell" as "SEED sells more". They have a potential present (or real) dyansty on their hands with SEED. The Gundam staff can probably only work on so many Gundam projects at a time. I'm not saying the older Gundams won't sell - I'm saying they won't sell as much. In which case they become pointless. Of course, I suppose the dubbing could be done outside the Gundam staff. Still ... Putting all things aside, I'm sure Bandai will do whatever makes them more money in the long run. As a world-class company, they will go out of their way to find the greatest lawyers, consultants, businessmen/women, and artists (Directors, script writers, translators) that they can find. In conclusion, accepting the probability that Bandai knows far more about the international anime business than we do (at least financially), I'd say they, being ruled as most companies by the laws of logic, will find the mathematically proven way to make the most money.

Funny thing is that when you think about it, X has almost as many Gundam variations as seed to make toys out of.

I knew this was going to happen. But there is yet ANOTHER Gundam SEED manga. It's called Delta Astray I think. Ummm, hurray?

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Originally posted by Gaddes I knew this was going to happen. But there is yet ANOTHER Gundam SEED manga. It's called Delta Astray I think. Ummm, hurray?

It's to be expected...

Bandai's announced the new Zeta Gundam Movies for a US release. Better than nothing, but not a good sign for older Gundams. The only reason they're releasing the Zeta movies is because they were recently put together, they have some modern animation stuck in, and it ties in nicely with the previous release of Zeta Gundam in the US.

Question: Are the Zeta movies' condensed form a stronger presentation of the Zeta story? Is it a more definitive experience?

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Are the Zeta movies' condensed form a stronger presentation of the Zeta story? Is it a more definitive experience?

As far as I know they are just the t.v show in movie form, with some new scenes. Other than that, the same I think.

Not quite, the evnts changes result in a completely different ending that messes with the storyline of ZZ and even CCA.
I don't know the specifics right now, but the 2nd half of hte story is drastically changed from the TV series.

Sorry to bring back this old thread, but I have a question about those Gundam SEED and DESTINY Special Editions. Since they condense their respective series, do they manage to improve either the SEED or Destiny series? I mean, if they got rid of all those flashbacks and fillers, maybe they'd be more enjoyable watches. I think I'm just getting desperate for some new Gundam lol.

PS- GUNOTA ran a story a week ago or so, I can't find it now, about a possible new Gundam series (anime?) from a famous Japanese military-sci-fi novelist. I wonder if this means the SEED reign is over?

The SEED and SEED destiny SP editions are more or less the same, just minus the filler and flash backs.

As for the news on a new Gundam show, meh. If it happens then awesome, if it doesn't then I can live without it.

Sorry about the double post, but It seems like Bandai is doing a remake of episode 39 of MSG in full CG and with new characters. And I think it's pretty safe to say that Gundam is pretty much dead over here. Oh well. *hugs R2 Gundam X boxset.*