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The one actress chick he used to date was hotter, and no I cant remember her name right now. |
Rose McGowen (sp?).
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Oh and yeah, he's still a gimmick. I saw him on Too Late with Adam Carolla once, and thought the universe was going to implode, since...gimmick + worst late night show ever=apocalypse. Then I saw the episode where Adam basically licked Carlos Mencia's boots because he uses the word "beaner" alot. |
Marilyn Manson takes up a different gimmick each time he comes out with a new album. This has happened since...say...starting 1996. However, the different "phases" that he went through between 96 and 2000 totally hauled ass, since the three cds he released in between them were amazing (especially Mechanical Animals, since it paid tribute to Glam Rock and Ziggy Stardust and the like). I've seen him in concert...9 times (more if you count Ozzfest and the like). However, I never really bought into the whole "concept album of an alien with titties" thing, and I certainly don't really pay attention to his rhetoric (if you'd like to call it that).
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| you gotta love his psychotic style |
I respect that he's managing to bilk thousands of dollars out of halfwits who think owning his cds makes them "edgy and unique" by putting on this act. Because those people really do only exist as a source of labor and money. |
I own the cds but sheerly for musical purposes. It doesn't make me unique. It doesn't make me edgy. It makes me a consumer, a listener, and an fan. Do I have a Marilyn Manson t-shirt? A few, but I got them from concerts and whatnot (and who doesn't buy shirts at concerts?)
Now, Marilyn Manson wasn't always about gimmicks.
See this guy?:
He used to be this guy:
Marilyn Manson (the band)'s first major release wasn't any concept album (like all of those after). It was basically a re-recording of a handful of their most popular songs as the Spooky Kids (or later Marilyn Manson and the Spooky Kids). The guy in the picture is Scott Mitchell Putesky, who went by the stage name Daisy Berkowitz. He, along with Brian Warner, founded Marilyn Manson and the Spooky Kids and wrote an assload of good songs (and is a pretty nice guy, might I add). The songs built around a central theme of creepy and shock-filled nursery rhymes, which merged together with the music really well, but didn't have any central theme.
After "Portrait of an American Family" (the first Marilyn Manson album) and the remix album ("Smells Like Children"), Marilyn Manson grew to fame with a cover of the Eurythmics song "Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)". With all this fame, Brian Warner/Marilyn Manson wanted to change the image of the band, as well as the overall musical style and tone. So, while creating his second major release (Antichrist Superstar), he got into a scuff with Scott Putseky about the creative direction. Because Putesky wanted to just keep the idea the same as it was with the band and Warner wanted to drastically change it, Putesky found himself outnumbered (by bassist Jerodie Osborne-White and keyboardist Steven...something...I don't remember off the top of my head...but his stage name is Madonna Wayne Gacy) and then thrown out of the band, after only finishing a few tracks on the new album against his will.
After that album, Manson recorded the glam album "Mechanical Animals". After that, he recorded a somewhat goth-inspired album "Holy Wood". After a few years and a big line up change (which saw him getting rid of probably his best guitarist and bassist), he created "The Golden Age of Grotesque", which was a crappy, crappy industrial metal album that made heavy use of the drum machine. During this time, Marilyn Manson started caring more about painting, art and cocaine and less about music, so he did this whole thing where he sold paintings and became somewhat of an odd expressionist. Most fans bought into that, while I did not.
Marilyn Manson now is really no different from Paris Hilton. He's a professional celebrity. He's coming out with another album, but it's most likely (from leaked audio files that I've heard) just another churned out piece of crap. His fifteen minutes of fame are over, and he's not ever going to go back to making what I considered good music.