Who would win the rematch?

DorothyFan1 09-22-2005 04:59 PM
If there were ever a rematch between Big O and Big Fau who do you think would win it?

Personally, I think that Big O showed all that it could do...rockets, Big O weapon and through all that Big Fau was still standing at the end...barely.

But strange as it seems I don't think Big Fau had the chance to show all it had for battling Big O. I believe the symbols on its armor give hints that Big Fau had alot of other weapons that were never utilized for that Big Fight in Act 26.

For one thing, we learned that Big Fau is the Water element and can defeat any Big in the depths of the sea. We also learned that Big Fau has a superior mobile force field allowing it to absorb punishing blows from pistons like from Big O's arms. We now understand that Big Fau can fly like Big Duo. (Yeah, I hear you naysayers out there on this one.)

Trust me...if Big Fau can use its spinning wrists to navigate underwater...I'm sure this Megadeus can do the same on land. Although we've not seen this...I'm sure Big Fau can fly like Big Duo. This potentially makes Big Fau the strongest of the Bigs to do battle with Big O.

But these are ONLY the known weapons of Big Fau. I personally believe those symbols on its arms are clues to the weapons Alex didn't know Big Fau had. One of them seems to be the ability to harness the ultraviolet rays of the sunlight to regenerate itself in case of damage from duels. I believe we've seen this after the Big O weapon was used against Big Fau. I believe Big Fau was still standing in the end because it was able to regenerate enough of itself after the blow thanks to its ability to absorb energy through its power cells.

I also believe the green eyes of Big Fau aren't just a clue about who should be its Dominus...(aka Dorothy)..but also its weapon capability. I believe the White Megadeus has corrosive ray beams that can melt down any metal during combat.

Okay...that's it for now. Any thoughts on this? Who would you choose to win the rematch between Big O and Big Fau?
Big Money 09-22-2005 05:12 PM
... Ok, you have a nice idea for a thread here, and you're probably right about there being more weapons on Big Fau but...

...flying? Saws cannot fly. I know, I've used a saw before.

Well, ok, you could throw it...


The ultraviolet ray thing... is very random. Besides, there isn't any sun we've seen...

And Big Fau has normal eye lasers, as seen in R-D and Stripes. Besides, the blue lasers can melt crap anyways.


I'd bet Big Fau has some kind of O-Thunder type weapon deal, and I'd like to think that the suns do something awesome...
Jim Starluck 09-22-2005 05:21 PM
Big Fau has no wings or maneuvering systems, and no engines big enough to concievably lift his weight. Big Duo is clearly built for flight, Big Fau is not.

Also, Big O never got to use two of his heaviest weapons against Fau: the Chromebuster or the Oh-Thunder. We've no idea if they would've penetrated Fau's forcefield or not.

And Fau did not survive the Final Stage by regeneration. Roger clearly missed on purpose. The massive trench dug by the weapon perfectly matches the bite out of Big Fau's side, so he didn't regenerate anything that got blasted off.



I agree that Big Fau (and Big Duo for that matter) had more weapons than his Dominus was aware of, but I think you give him far too much credit.
DorothyFan1 09-22-2005 05:39 PM
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Originally posted by Big Money
... Ok, you have a nice idea for a thread here, and you're probably right about there being more weapons on Big Fau but...

...flying? Saws cannot fly. I know, I've used a saw before.

Well, ok, you could throw it...


The ultraviolet ray thing... is very random. Besides, there isn't any sun we've seen...

And Big Fau has normal eye lasers, as seen in R-D and Stripes. Besides, the blue lasers can melt crap anyways.


I'd bet Big Fau has some kind of O-Thunder type weapon deal, and I'd like to think that the suns do something awesome...


How do you explain Big Fau using its "saws" to fly through the water during that scene in Act 26? If those were just saws as yoiu presume...then NOTHING should have allowed Big Fau to navigate through the sea during that sequence. Period. BUT...apparently it was able to CARRY both itself AND Big O during its ascent to the surface. That's TONS of steel to pull up not to mention the pressure from the depths of the water. Let's not forget the water trail it was leaving behind during its wake. The bubbles CLEARLY showed it was being navigated through by Big Fau's JET PROPULSION system. But when Big O got back to the surface..it COULDN'T FLY like Big Fau...it had to use its pistons to JUMP the distance to the surface.

Another thing...those spinning wrists of Big Fau hurled themselves at Big O...yet another indication that the "spinning" of the arms wasn't just a show and tell. They indicate a propulsion system on Big Fau.

At least we agree about Big Fau having a "Big O" kind of WMD not used in the finale of Act 26. And yes, it DOES have something to do with the symbols on the arms. Those look like sun symbols on each arm...indicating it has some kind of solar power weapon that Alex wasn't aware of.
Big Money 09-22-2005 05:44 PM
... You mean how Big Fau swam through the water? And yes, they are saws, just not conventional ones, and probably with the dual purpose of travelling through water...

I think that the arm missiles are more of an homage to other mecha anime like Mazinkaiser than anything else, but thats just me... However, I do agree with Jim, that Big Fau lacks the necessary pieces to fly.

Or it could be that they're just pictures of the sun, and not solar powered...


But again I say, this is just my opinion on the matter, and its sort of useless trying to debate either way, I suppose...
evanASF27 09-22-2005 05:46 PM
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Originally posted by DorothyFan1
How do you explain Big Fau using its "saws" to fly through the water during that scene in Act 26? If those were just saws as yoiu presume...then NOTHING should have allowed Big Fau to navigate through the sea during that sequence. Period. BUT...apparently it was able to CARRY both itself AND Big O during its ascent to the surface. That's TONS of steel to pull up not to mention the pressure from the depths of the water. Let's not forget the water trail it was leaving behind during its wake. The bubbles CLEARLY showed it was being navigated through by Big Fau's JET PROPULSION system. But when Big O got back to the surface..it COULDN'T FLY like Big Fau...it had to use its pistons to JUMP the distance to the surface.

The saws on Big Fau's arms could in theory be used as "screws". Screws are known to be a means of propulsion through water (I think there was an screw-driven vehicle that crosses the Bering Sea). Screws don't work out of water though, so I don't really think it'd be able to fly.
...and that whole "bubble" thing is just to show that it's moving through water. Just the artists at work showing the water being whipped up and forced away. The only jet propulsion I saw on Fau was its chunky Arm Missiles (even there, it'd be considered rocket boosters).
Mike 09-22-2005 05:48 PM
It was using the saws as propellors. Really big propellors. Underwater propellors won't do jack when used in air. And the propellor of a big ship will make bubbles even though it's not a jet. Besides, the thing on its back looks like the conning tower of a submarine. Big Fau is pretty obviously meant to be underwater.

Just because it has suns drawn on its arms don't mean it has some solar weapon. Alex could have had them painted on because of his Jesus complex or something. Or they could hide a completely different weapon.

Anyway, I think that the fight was weak. They should have hammering away at each other with all their weapons the entire time. If I were Roger, I would have gone straight for the Chromebuster after the missiles didn't work. And if I were Alex, I would have just busted out those bigass shoulder cannons that Big Fau has and put a nice hole in Big O.

Personally, I think Big Fau would win just because it has more long range weapons.

Looking back, all the fights were sorta weak...even the one with Schwarzwald. Gundam fights are more intense. And have more trash-talking instead of confusing metaphors.
DorothyFan1 09-22-2005 05:59 PM
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Originally posted by Mike
It was using the saws as propellors. Really big propellors. Underwater propellors won't do jack when used in air. And the propellor of a big ship will make bubbles even though it's not a jet. Besides, the thing on its back looks like the conning tower of a submarine. Big Fau is pretty obviously meant to be underwater.

Just because it has suns drawn on its arms don't mean it has some solar weapon. Alex could have had them painted on because of his Jesus complex or something. Or they could hide a completely different weapon.

Anyway, I think that the fight was weak. They should have hammering away at each other with all their weapons the entire time. If I were Roger, I would have gone straight for the Chromebuster after the missiles didn't work. And if I were Alex, I would have just busted out those bigass shoulder cannons that Big Fau has and put a nice hole in Big O.

Personally, I think Big Fau would win just because it has more long range weapons.

Looking back, all the fights were sorta weak...even the one with Schwarzwald. Gundam fights are more intense. And have more trash-talking instead of confusing metaphors.


Interesting comment the fights were "weak". Some posters have theorized since not all of the capabilities of the Megadeuses were known to the Dominii...that it's possible the fight scenes were sucker punched. But that's highly theoretical and extremely debatable. Fascinating comments about Big O not using the Chromebuster on Big Fau...and I'm wondering why it wasn't used. But Big O did use its WMD on Big Fau at the end. But even that raises a question...could Roger Smith have initiated the Big O weapon on his own? It was curious to notice that Roger looked "confused" when his system panel changed and noticed only that it was Dorothy who activated the weapon. This raises the fascinating possibility that Dorothy is like a necessary component and deterrent for the Big O weapon to be used? Like perhaps Alex Rosewater stole Dorothy's memory core not only to control Big Fau...but also to utilize Big Fau's "doomsday weaponry"?!
Zopwx2 09-22-2005 06:30 PM
Big Fau CANNOT fly, and that ultraviolet thing is bogus.

And Big O also has a sheild like fau but doesn't know how to use it obviously. (He used it in hydra).
Spacehog 09-22-2005 11:48 PM
Fau is weak IMO. I suppose it is possible that there are things he can do that we have yet to see, but that could be true for any of the Bigs. The shoulder lasers didn't do anything to Big O and niether would the eye lasers. The spinning hand launch thing seems impractical, and using the wrist grinding technique requires very close range. The only thing Fau has going for him is the shield the way I see it. And as we saw, Big O can defeat that if Roger could aim the final stage attack at all. It's all speculative, but I think Big O would be good for a win 4 times out of 5.
Mattartist 09-23-2005 05:17 AM
I can imagine:

Roger: Big O: Final Stage!

(With force, the super weapon jets forward from the megadeus's chest.)

Dorothy: Now Roger, AIM. Aim then fire, this is a one time thing.

Roger: Dorothy, I'm driving here, give me some room!

Dorothy: Sweatdrop Ok, but don't say I didn't warn you...

(Roger misses. Thats it.)

As for the Bigs' secret powers, its logical to think that each of the Bigs has something much like Big O's Final Stage. Your inquiries about Fau's solar power attacks are very intriguing. Likewise, Duo could have some awesome stuff built in him. Which is all the more reason why we desperately NEED a third season of Big O! I mean, they make 200 seasons of crappy anime like Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh. Its frickin' disgraceful. But yeah, Bigs have a lot more power than what we're let to believe in the series itself.

Ok, thats it for me, see ya! Big Grin
lighty 09-23-2005 05:56 AM
I remember way back, someone mentioned about Fau having missles hidden in that big head of his in the manga.

Though, I'm more interested in what other weapons Big Duo have. I mean, except for the megaton missiles, which I think is about as powerful as the Final Stage, all of Duo's other weapons (normal missles, guns on the arms, the claws and the eye lasers) seem kinda inferior compare to the weapons that the other 2 Bigs yeild.
BethMcBeth 09-23-2005 09:00 AM
Personally I think that Big O would re-win again. If Big O was more capable or maybe this was Roger Smith's error. I think that the finial stage would defently blow away Big Fau completely especially if it was a head on direct hit. Iam sure that Fau would put up a pretty good fight but Big O I think would still win.

-Beth
Wazpy 09-23-2005 09:49 AM
I think they're evenly matched... but Roger is just the best. Simple as that.

Also, I think Alex was aware of all the weapons. He saw Fau built piece by piece. Roger is the one who still has expermenting to do. Alex has teams of the best engineers to write reports for him on all the weapons. Roger just has a butler and a team of hobos to fix up Big O.
Nine Kuze 09-23-2005 10:00 AM
Personally, I think that Big O would still win, but again slightly. Just because that Roger Smith has more experince at being a dominus then Alex Rosewater has.
I believe that Big Fau still has much more weapons at it's disposal then we saw in just six episodes of the series. For example, in the manga, Big Fau has depth charges and I think that from its head, it had missiles complete with nets. Rosewater may have had researchers to assemble and make reports about Big Fau but that still doesn't mean that they or even Rosewater knew how to actually execute them in battle.

Yeah, and that whole thing about Big Fau able to fly in the air just ain't right. Like Mike said, propellers don't do a damn thing in the air. Just think of a ship's propellers. They need to be underwater for them to have any use what so ever. Saying Big Fau can fly through the air is like saying that Big Duo can fly through the water.

As far as all the megaduse battles being 'weak', I don't think so, but respecting your guys comments, I can see how you would think so. To me, most of the fights were rushed because Big Duo and Big Fau weren't actually on long enough to learn their ultimate weapons.

That's what I got, folk. Peace.