Eva on Cartoon Network (Update! - First Episode Airs Tonight!)

even though I saw Eva years ago, I'm interested to see how "uncut" this will be.

<-- Still scoffs haughtily at the idea that Adult Swim is even doing Evangelion.

The schedule at CN.com says this Saturday at 1:30 am eastern time.

Lets see I am glad that CN is putting it on although it sure took them a while. LOL but its still a nice series it will be fun to watch it again. ^_^"

-Beth

Tonight! Tonight! (Thursday, Oct. 20th!!!)


I just got an email notice from ADV (I'm on their mailing list - nice to get clips and promos). They say Neon Genesis Evangelion starts TONIGHT at 12:30 a.m. (Eastern), 11:30 p.m. (Central).

Wow, and I haven't even seen a commercial for it yet. (I usually don't watch Adults Swim on the weeknights - mostly comedy stuff and the anime is on waaaaaay late!)

AS's schedule (http://www.adultswim.com/shows/evangelion/index.html) shows that the first episode airs tonight (20th - techninally the 21st if your on the East/Pacific Coasts) and then also on Saturday (early Sunday a.m.).


In a way, this echoes back to when AS first started with two episodes of Cowboy Bebop on every Thursday night. (Ahhhhh . . . when it all began - with the actual adult swimming bumpers too - none of this self-smug unfunny injoke stuff that doesn't really thrill me!)


Anyway, whenever you see it, enjoy! Evangelion (or Neon Genesis as they show it on the main CN website's schedule) is a fine anime - but I'm not saying it's the best ever or glorifying it as the best thing since indoor plumbing. But it will hopefully provide a big anime buzz among viewers and such.

well I'll be the first to say that eva is beyond overrated but it's not that bad of a show, it's just that everyone acts like it's the best thing since well anything. well as for the dub...being a huge dub watch, I can honestly say eva is really sub par even for when it was created, also spike spencer's Shinji is god awful.

I agree on the overrated status of EVA. It never really clicked with me. Me and my friends went into it years ago thinking "This is going to be the best Anime EVER!" because everyone said it was and for a few episodes we we thought it was pretty good but then it just went down hill from there. So I'm not going to bother watching, I'm surprised it took them this long to show it though since people have been screaming for it for so long.

I know they showed the first few episodes on Toonami during their "Super Robot Week" thing a few years ago.

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Originally posted by Wreck-Gar I know they showed the first few episodes on Toonami during their "Super Robot Week" thing a few years ago.

Yes, I saw those as well, and I agree that Eva has to be the most over rated anime to ever hit the shores of North America. Even more so than DBZ.

meh. i love eva, hell it's one of my favorite animes, top 3 even! but for some odd reason I can not really figure out why im not excited or care that it is coming to AS. I mean yea cool, it can now be shown to the masses, but still they will edit it to hell in back when it gets toward the end of the series. Im sorry but I would just prefer it if Eva never comes to AS, it was fine where it was. sorry guys i just don't like this for some reason, it's not sitting well with me. I really don't wanna say something to stupid here. I suppose I just need to get my thoughts together on this is all.

Yeah, I watched it again on AS and it seemed rather bleh. I forgot how slow and stereotypical this show starts out. It's hard to watch it in just one-episode bits. I also forgot that the first episode doesn't even have the first Eva/Angel fight. The feral fighting sequences from this show really stand out.

If this is the first time you're watching Evangelion, give it time. There really is more to it in the long run. That's what makes this show interesting - how it starts out as a traditional anime show and then twists it all completely in a warped and confusing way.

I'm one of those who thinks it's an okay show (the editing/pacing is interesting). It is definitely overrated by a lot of the uber-fans out there. Evangelion's legacy has a sort of Star Wars/Lord of the Rings type feel in the anime world - with some die hard fans that live and breathe it. To the rest of us, some of us like it more than others, but in the end, it's just another show.

But at least it's something new to watch on AS. I'm surprised they haven't hyped it up as much with advertisements. Maybe they assume people already know the show. Or maybe they're scared younger viewers will tune in and then their parents will freak out. It's not for kiddies.

It's not really that confusing if you pay close attention to the storyline instead of getting distracted by the imagery.

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Originally posted by Schoolie Evangelion's legacy has a sort of Star Wars/Lord of the Rings type feel in the anime world - with some die hard fans that live and breathe it.

Heh. Its FUNNY you MENTION Lord of the Rings...

JUST IN! (drum roll) Neon Genesis Evangelion is coming to the big screen IN LIVE ACTION! ZOUNDS! And guess what, fans? WETA Workshop, the dudes behind LOTR, King Kong and The Cronicles of Narnia, will be doing all the technical stuff! ZOUNDS AGAIN!

Ok, now I'm shaking because of excitement, and now my hands are dancing crazily on the keyboard....

di;cnslvhwwhprsjweqhpcwnrvo8sgperenvuoiwbcosvem;wkjb idfslhfishfwcwcnejwofswcnwlniifhosf....

Yeah... its gonna rock, hopefully it'll give American audiences a new blockbuster genre (PRAYS FOR LIVE ACTION BIG O MOVIE, PRAAYYS!)

Ok, I'm done ranting.

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Originally posted by Mattartist quote: Originally posted by Schoolie Evangelion's legacy has a sort of Star Wars/Lord of the Rings type feel in the anime world - with some die hard fans that live and breathe it. Heh. Its FUNNY you MENTION Lord of the Rings... JUST IN! (drum roll) Neon Genesis Evangelion is coming to the big screen IN LIVE ACTION! ZOUNDS! And guess what, fans? WETA Workshop, the dudes behind LOTR, King Kong and The Cronicles of Narnia, will be doing all the technical stuff! ZOUNDS AGAIN! Ok, now I'm shaking because of excitement, and now my hands are dancing crazily on the keyboard.... di;cnslvhwwhprsjweqhpcwnrvo8sgperenvuoiwbcosvem;wkjb idfslhfishfwcwcnejwofswcnwlniifhosf.... Yeah... its gonna rock, hopefully it'll give American audiences a new blockbuster genre (PRAYS FOR LIVE ACTION BIG O MOVIE, PRAAYYS!) Ok, I'm done ranting.

That's been out and around for a long while now, and as far as I know, it's still in pre-production. It's funny... When I first found out about this whole Eva movie thing, I was still in my huge LOTR phase, so hearing about Weta and that nearly drove me up the goddang wall.

My thought has always been that if the movie turns out to be absolutely atrocious, at least the CG won't be.

Yes, the live action EVA thing is indeed old, old news and it's currently in development hell. I'm not entirely sure how they'd make a stand alone movie about EVA anyway. It'd need at least a trilogy to cover the entire story and I'm not sure the movie going audience in the US beyond anime fans are going to care about it and I think they're facing the dilemma which is why development for the movie hasn't gone anywhere in years now.

However you are likely to see the live action Transformers movie which possibly seems to be finally getting somewhere.

Big O would equally be hard to do in a single movie, I'd rather see an animated sequel movie than a live action revisioning movie anyway.

The fact that EVA does have the previously mentioned Star Wars-esque cult following is probably why they're trying to do this anyway. I'm sure most EVA nuts are against it. I would be for fear of them really messing up.

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Originally posted by Wreck-Gar Yes, the live action EVA thing is indeed old, old news and it's currently in development hell. I'm not entirely sure how they'd make a stand alone movie about EVA anyway. It'd need at least a trilogy to cover the entire story and I'm not sure the movie going audience in the US beyond anime fans are going to care about it and I think they're facing the dilemma which is why development for the movie hasn't gone anywhere in years now.

I'm pretty sure the movie won't have very much to do with the anime's storyline at all. Trying to make that storyline in to an American live-action movie would be the same as throwing fistfuls of cash down the toliet. It's cinema suicide! The production sketches already show good evidence that the movie has an "alternate universe" feel to it; the Evas look different, NERV HQ does, too, and some characters even have different names.

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Evangelion's legacy has a sort of Star Wars/Lord of the Rings type feel in the anime world - with some die hard fans that live and breathe it

Every huge fan of it I've ever known basically gets burned out on claiming its the best thing ever...at which point we begin cracking jokes about it whenever possible.

Which...really isn't that hard.

edit: Oh please, PLEASE let them show the

spoiler (highlight to read):

mind rape

scene, I forget which episode it was but...it was pretty lengthy so I can't see how they'd cut it out. That was so incredibly over the top in subtitled form that I almost fell out of my chair laughing at one point...I can only assume in dubbed form it's just going to be absolutely HYSTERICAL.

Really alot of the show is like that, when you've seen every episode/both the movies, then later you go back and watch it...and the fact everything in the series had some kind of wildly melodramatic twist to it just becomes sort of funny. Everyones either depressed, dead, a witness to suicide, a clone of a dead person, or trapped inside of a robot...hell even the penguin that lives in the refridgerator is the last of some kind of genetically modified...uh..strain..of penguins.

It's like someone decided to take elements from every soap opera ever made, and the most stereotypical livejournal ever, then put them into a blender and make a show out of the result. Then again...I'm pretty sure the guy behind the show was completely hopped up on anti-depressants when he made it. So once you realize that...a HUGE chunk of the "confusion" surrounding the plot evaporates.

I'm not saying its BAD...or anything...just that after having it be the first anime I ever even saw, enough time has passed that when I see it on t.v. alot of the stuff I thought was "deep" now seems kind of funny.

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The most apparent and prominent use of symbolism takes its inspiration from the Jewish and Christian religions. The staff of the project have said that they originally used the symbolism of Christianity (a religion practiced by around 1% of the population in Japan) only to give the project a unique edge against other giant robot shows. In assistant director Kazuya Tsurumaki's own words: "we just thought the visual symbols of Christianity looked cool". Whether this mindset might have changed during the course of making the series, which influences the perceived depth of meaning of the symbols, is another question, altogether.

Yeah, this show is real deep..

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Originally posted by Kairi quote: The most apparent and prominent use of symbolism takes its inspiration from the Jewish and Christian religions. The staff of the project have said that they originally used the symbolism of Christianity (a religion practiced by around 1% of the population in Japan) only to give the project a unique edge against other giant robot shows. In assistant director Kazuya Tsurumaki's own words: "we just thought the visual symbols of Christianity looked cool". Whether this mindset might have changed during the course of making the series, which influences the perceived depth of meaning of the symbols, is another question, altogether. Yeah, this show is real deep..

Wasn't it once said that Big O was created solely to sell toys? Yeah, I gave up on trying to find any "deeper" meaning after that. Same with Eva. I hate how shows claim to be deep, when they really don't make any sense.

Technically all super robot anime is made to sell toys. Ever since the first rip offs of Mazinger Z started to appear toys have been the driving force for bothering to make new super robot shows.

It's just recently (comparitively recently at least) that some modern super robot shows like Evangelion and Big O have tried to inject deeper storylines into the genre, but yes, super robot shows are expected to sell toys. They always have, they always will. In the case of Big O the storyline is more important than the toy line, this isn't true for the 30 minute commercials like Transformers and G.I. Joe which are making their comeback and were made soley to pimp new toy lines.

This isn't counting the "real robot" shows like Gundam and Macross by the way (Gundam has it's own "let's make a new series to sell more models" problem though).

Anyway, it doesn't matter what the original purpose is. If it's good, it's good.

No, what he means is that the show Big O was made after Big O was designed as a cool toy, and so the story was technically secondary until at least episode 13. I'd assume, though, that season two was created to further the story, as, well, there are few Big O toys to speak of ...


As for the topic of this thread...

I guess I'll watch an episode or two, but really all the hype about the show is sort of a turn-off... But whatever.




Oh yeah, and the melodrama that I've heard permeates the whole things. That's sort of scaring me away from the show...