| lts_silver |
06-13-2005 09:11 PM |
It just hit me the other day while I was reading my post about the Power of the Megadeus. I have some thoughts that I wanna share and hopefully haven't been discussed already. There are four main points I wanna cover in this particular thread.
First Point: There are three Bigs to the Big Trio. What is the significance of this?
Second Point: Notice that there are three stages of attack for Big O. Again, is there significance to this and are there more stages that we don't know about?
Third Point: Is there a Megadeus that leads or commands the Big Trio similar to how a Squad has a Sergeant or a Fire Team has a Lance Corporal? If so, who would that be? Big O? Big Duo or Big Fau?
Fourth Point: What is the significance of the number 3 in general to Big O?
What are your thoughts on this?
| Zopwx2 |
06-13-2005 09:42 PM |
While on the 3:
There is the Megadeus / Dominus / Android combo thats been thrown about.
The Supposed:
O: Land
Duo: Air
Fau: Water
Venus: ?
In addtion:
O: Behemoth (Land best)
Duo: Ziz (air beast)
Fau: Leviathan (water beast)
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| There is another religious hymn recited on the festival of Shavuot (celebrating the giving of the Torah), known as Akdamut, wherein it says: "...The sport with the Leviathan and the ox [Behemoth]...When they will interlock with one another and engage in combat, with his horns the Behemoth will gore with strength, the fish [Leviathan] will leap to meet him with his fins, with power. Their Creator will approach them with his mighty sword [and slay them both]." |
Big O vs. Big Fau, and being both erased by venus?
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| According to midrash recording traditions, it is impossible for anyone to kill a behemoth except for the person who created it, in this case YHWH. [God] |
Venus again?
Also discussed:
The 4 horseman of the apocolpyse:
White / Black / Red / Pale ..... familiar?
Who knows which references were intentional, and even then, if they mean anything.
I'm also pretty sure the #3 is pushed here and there too wherever you want to put it.
Like the billiards ball with the the 3 on it in act 20.
As far as if there was a commander big? I think it would have more to do with who was in the big rather than what big they were piloting.
Links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behemoth
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviathan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Horseman
| lts_silver |
06-13-2005 10:00 PM |
Let me elaborate a bit on a the Big Commander approach. You could be right in that its more based on who is the Senior Pilot at the time. What i was trying to ask is this. I don't know if anyone is familiar with game series Mechwarrior? In the game series, there are mechwarriors who pilot these huge mechanical armed robots called battlemechs. Now each mech is arranged into a group where one mech is the leader and has what is called a C3 Master computer installed into the mech. The other mechs in the group have what are called C3 Slave computers. The Master C3 acts like the server for the other mechs receiving and feeding information to the slaves. Do you get the picture now? I was wondering if the Big Trio has a similar set up where one Big has a Master Computer feeding information to the other Bigs who have slave computers. From what I've seen of the series, that might not be the case, but I figured it was what worth a look at seeing as the Big Trio work as a team. And in a team, there has to be a leader whether its a Senior Pilot or Commanding Officer, or Master computer and slave Computers or both. Just a thought.
Addition: Now speaking of Big Venus, it could be that Big Venus is the leader of the Big Trio, but I won't go any farther into that discussion because there is so much about Big Venus we don't know anyway. Therefore I'm gonna stick with the Big Trio strictly.
There is another thing we should consider. Is anyone familiar with The Trinity where God is three parts working together in perfect unity. Now I'm not saying the Big Trio represent the Trinity although the writers might be implying something along those lines. What I was thinking is maybe there is no Leader or Master computer, maybe the three Bigs don't need it cause their memory cores synchronize together perfectly. If that is the case, the makers of the Big Trio really knew what they were doing to be that good.
| lighty |
06-14-2005 09:41 AM |
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Originally posted by Zopwx2
O: Behemoth (Land best)
Duo: Ziz (air beast)
Fau: Leviathan (water beast)
Big O vs. Big Fau, and being both erased by venus?
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Duo should be Angel Gabriel, the angel that was sent down by God to kill both Leviathan and Behemoth but eventually fails. It makes sense, seeing that both Schwarzward and Alan Gabriel (notice Alan's surname is actually the name of the angel) take neither side of Roger nor Alex.
Quote from one of the texts I found on the net:
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| Gabriel will be charged with the killing of the monster; but he will not be able to accomplish his task without the help of God, who will divide the monster with His sword. According to another haggadah, when Gabriel fails, God will order the leviathan to engage in a battle with the ox of the mountain ("shor habar"), which will result in death to both of them (B. B. 75a; Pesi3. p. 188b) |
The ox of the mountain is the behemoth if you didn't know that already.
The number three is a re-occuring theme in Big O. Probably because it's a holy number.
We also see the solid red 3 ball several times during the show. The only two occasions I can remember are in acts 1 and 20. My memory's a little fuzzy but I think in act 1 we see the 3 ball while Big Ear and Roger are talking about Dorothy. It may have been around the first knight in shining armor comment. The second time is again in the speakeasy, we have a shot of it falling into a pocket while Angel and Roger can be seen in the background talking.
We also have the Roger-Dorothy-Angel triad which could very likely be much more than just a love triangle. Both Roger and Dorothy were respectively made to serve a specific purpose. Those purposes are so important that as individuals they are seen as expendable in the eyes of their creators. Roger and Dorothy can be replaced (though they're not very happy with this knowledge -and neither are we-). This has a side effect of giving these two mythic status. I suspect that Angel might have a similar story. You have to admit, with the number 3 such a large motif in Big O having only two mythic characters feels very lopsided.
muchlove
-Dork