Times seen on clocks in the series relating to Bible Verses?

Something tells me we should make notes of the times on all the clocks seen in the series
and see if they matchup to any relevant bible verses.

Time and bible verses share a simular format such as 3:16 and such.
Something tells me we should make notes of the times on all the clocks seen in the series
and see if they matchup to any relevant bible verses.


Alright, it seems that I got something with this already...

Id say the hands on those clocks were at about 7:20

Jeremiah
7:20 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, mine anger and my fury shall be poured out upon this place, upon man, and upon beast, and upon the trees of the field, and upon the fruit of the ground; and it shall burn, and shall not be quenched.

This reference right after Big Venus wiped everything out.

Luke 7:20 When the men came to Jesus, they said, "John the Baptist sent us to you to ask, 'Are you the one who was to come, or should we expect someone else?' "
Could also be relevant.

What can you guys find like this?


Found another one:


Lamentations
3:57 You came near when I called you,
and you said, "Do not fear."

Called? Is this referring to big Venus being called?

I think I cracked open a big nut here!

Cmon People! Everyone go through the images section on the main page
and see what pictures of clocks you can find.

Post the picture, along with the time you think its at.
Then post whatever bible verses a google search for that time turned up.

That's really not a bad idea. There are obvious references to bible verses throughout the series. I'm almost 100% confident that "Cast in the name of God, ye not guilty" is a reference to the actions of Jesus in the book of John, where he stops the stoning of Mary of Magdaline. Also, if you're familiar with the soundtrack, the piece that's used to open episode 14 and the final episodes is called "the stoning." Just something I thought was pretty clever of the writers.

Wow hey thats a really neat idea I don't know much biblicial stuff and what not but maybe there is a link to that and the times I say go for it! ^_^"

-Beth

What about floor 666 that Gordon takes Angel to? That always seemed strange to me.

To respond to some of the points already made in this thread...

First, "Cast in the Name of God, ye not Guilty" has been debated from here to the moon and back, and if I recall correctly there were two possible origins for that phrase: first, it was supposedly cast on the blades of executioners during the middle ages; second, it was supposedly what was cast on Conan's sword. In both instances, the reason for the phrase generally amounts to: someone thought it sounded cool.

The Biblical quote Ollen70 is thinking of is “He who is without sin among you, let him throw the first stone” (John 8:7).

As for floor 666: in the Book of Revelation, there arises a beast with the number 666 stamped on its forehead. In popular culture, that number has been associated with the devil, Hell...basically, all things evil. The number 666, however, was code for Nero, the Roman Emperor who was persecuting the early Christians either around the time Revelation was written or immediately preceding it; I cannot remember which off hand, though I'm inclined to believe it was the former.

In any case, it is an interesting theory...clocks correspanding to Biblical verses. The problem is, how do you know which book of the Bible (Old or New Testament) to look in? Personally, I am not inclined to search through all of them...reading the Bible is good and all, but...not necessarily in excess.

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Originally posted by The Fallen Phoenix As for floor 666: in the Book of Revelation, there arises a beast with the number 666 stamped on its forehead. In popular culture, that number has been associated with the devil, Hell...basically, all things evil. The number 666, however, was code for Nero, the Roman Emperor who was persecuting the early Christians either around the time Revelation was written or immediately preceding it; I cannot remember which off hand, though I'm inclined to believe it was the former.

Yes I know all this. I just think it was strange that it would have been used in this nature. There's no evidence that it's supposed to mean something, but it would be unlikely that it wasn't intentional.

wow. nice catch. seeing how there are so many religous motif's getting passed back and forth, i'm surprised to see how this one wasn't caught. good eye!

Man, the creators of this show are amazing o.o

That's insane

This is pretty cool. I wonder why nobody noticed that before.

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Originally posted by paul1290 This is pretty cool. I wonder why nobody noticed that before.

Because there are likely over fifty 7:20s, 3:57s, etc. in the Bible. At that point, it becomes a goose chase to find one which actually corresponds to the action. Is it from the Gospel of John? Acts? Exodus? Who knows?

At that point, no matter what, if you keep searching you'll find something that's likely relevant to the point at hand.

Since a good portion of Act 26 followed the book of revelations, I'd check there first. It's definitely a neat idea!

Maybe there are clues to what book to look in placed in the scene as well?
Look at the number still intact on that ruined clock: 12 6 7

Also, could there be some relation between the clock/verses relation and the
fact that roger likes hourglasses which cant have this relation to the bible?
And his watch doesnt have numbers on it, either.

7:20 is obviously a reference to the book of Proverbs: "He hath taken a bag of money with him, and will come home at the day appointed."

Or not.

Ecclesiastes 7:20 is far more eloquent: "For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not."

Of course, any single chapter of Ecclesiastes has about as much wisdom and beauty in it as the rest of the Bible put together, so that goes without saying.

The problem, of course, is knowing what, if any, book is being referenced.

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Originally posted by Wienberg Because there are likely over fifty 7:20s, 3:57s, etc. in the Bible. At that point, it becomes a goose chase to find one which actually corresponds to the action. Is it from the Gospel of John? Acts? Exodus? Who knows?

Not as hard as it seems. Not every book has a 7:20. Most don't, by the looks of it. And Lamentations is the only book with a 3:57.

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Originally posted by The Fallen Phoenix As for floor 666: in the Book of Revelation, there arises a beast with the number 666 stamped on its forehead. In popular culture, that number has been associated with the devil, Hell...basically, all things evil. The number 666, however, was code for Nero, the Roman Emperor who was persecuting the early Christians either around the time Revelation was written or immediately preceding it; I cannot remember which off hand, though I'm inclined to believe it was the former.

The Book of Revelations is generally believed to have written at the end of the first century. Nero ruled mid-first century, so it would be after. (As an aside, I've heard that 666 is a mistake, and that the number was originally 616, which would refer to Caligula, a early emperor.)

To note, the Book of Revelations has neither a 7:20 or a 3:57.

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Originally posted by Blue Eagle Maybe there are clues to what book to look in placed in the scene as well? Look at the number still intact on that ruined clock: 12 6 7 Also, could there be some relation between the clock/verses relation and the fact that roger likes hourglasses which cant have this relation to the bible? And his watch doesnt have numbers on it, either.

I think besides the Bible, time itself is a large factor in Big O.

You could say that all the clocks we see, plus Roger's hourglasses are a sort of symbol that point to the fact that time is running out, before Big Venus shows up and resets Paradigm again.

Just a thought.

666 makes more sense than 616. Seeing as 777 was used to break the walls of Jericho(IIRC).

I found this one passage in 2 Kings(or whatever it was called, seeing as it was the twelfth book in the order) and found this passage that seems to be related to the Final Stage thing in Chapter 6, line 7

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Therefore said he, Take it up to thee. And he put out his hand, and took it.

Job 7:20, this little one that seems to refer to Roger the Wanderer:

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I have sinned; what shall I do unto thee, O thou preserver of men? why hast thou set me as a mark against thee, so that I am a burden to myself?

Hey! Whoa! Am I the only one to have noticed that in that control room scene, all the screens except the main three show scene involving both roger and Angel together?

Here ya go people, all the other images I could find that had clocks involved.

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Originally posted by D-Boy 666 makes more sense than 616. Seeing as 777 was used to break the walls of Jericho(IIRC).

Well, they walked around the walls of Jericho seven times on the seventh day to bring down the walls. Not quite 777 though.

There are actually some pretty interesting hints in the episode titles as well. Take "Stripes," for example. Given the reference to the wounds of Christ, I'd bet any times you find there are going to coincide with verses that deal with the crucifixion - generally the later chapters of the gospels. I have absolutely no proof of this, since I haven't looked through the clips of that episode. It was just a thought.

If i was looking for these times and verses, I would first look in revelations, then the book of job(deals with leviathan) then the rest of old testament

Here's one: In "Stripes," when Roger is having his vision and all of the Big Duos are flying overhead, there's a shot of the hands of the clock at 1:51. In Luke, I came across this verse:

"He has performed mighty deeds with his arm; He has scattered those who are proud in their inner-most thoughts. He has brought down rulers from their thrones but has lifted up the humble."

I think this one stuck out to me because, in the clip immediately following it, Big O is reaching down through the roof of a burning building, presumably toward Roger Smith. At any rate, I thought it was kinda cool.