My case for Dorothy being the domineus of Big Duo.

Take note of the colors in the dress she wears in episodes 2 (Dorothy, Dorothy) and
14 (Roger the wonderer).

Episode 2:









Epsisode 14:




Red Dress, White skin, Black Gloves and Necklace.

Big Duo colors.

In every episode except 1, shes sporting Big Duo Colors. Even in the black Smith manor dress the highlights show up as red.

Also, note the picture of her inside Dorothy 1. Note the three metal orb things.

One to the left of her head, (Roger and Big O?) one to the right( ALex and Big Fau?) , and in the middle, Right above her head, Practicly ATTACHED to her head in fact, is an orb I feel represents Big Duo. Notice that its even raised to represent Duo's Airborne nature.
And the other orbs almost seem to be facing each other.

Big Duo's Face, for comparison:

This is wierd.
Well, I can't really bring up any evidence against it so I guess it's possible.

umm...no

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And since weve never seen him without the bandages, whos to say that handsome man shes with in the last image isnt Mr. Seeback, aka. Swartzwald?

Thats an usher/valet from the Nightingale club...that night, Dorothy was accompanying Timothy Wayneright...

The orbs...thats a stretch, they dont represent any symbolism at all...its just part of Dorothy 1's design...

Nice try though, but I think this is a big stretch to say the least...

Do we EVER see Dorothy in clothes she chose herself? During most of the series, she wears black, as mandated by Roger. At other times, we see her in a wet suit (woo-hoo!), in a red dress, and in a green dress.

One thing we don't see is Dorothy wearing distinctive colors that she chose herself. She seems perfectly comfortable wearing a variety of colors and clothes that are chosen for her by others.

As for the idea that the damage done to Dorothy 1 by Big O plus Beck's hasty repairs adding up to some kind of deep symbolism, it seems unlikely.

Now, the fact that all of Timothy Wayneright's creations have breasts, THAT's undeniably symbolism.

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Now, the fact that all of Timothy Wayneright's creations have breasts, THAT's undeniably symbolism.

Word!

Maybe the orbs were a little hint from the creators of the series?

That image of Dorothy inside Dorothy 1 seems to have some DEEP symbolism to it.
Doesnt that thing on her look like a crown or a tiara? She has a bit of a divine thing going on there. The image just keeps nagging at my brain...

I think its some kind of running theme that Beck, who seems on the surface to chiefly be a source of comic relief, is actually responsible for some of the deepest symbolism
in the series. Like the shows creators thought it would be Ironic or something.

When we thing of the relationship between the three Bigs, we think of them as a three way team. Perhaps their relationship is different.
Perhaps big duo was meant to be a judge, observing from on high?
Maybe Big Duo was meant to see which of the two other domineuses were the most rightous, and then come to their aid, ensuring them victory?
Judging by the end of Ep. 26 with Dorothy helping Roger, seems to suggest thats what happened.

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Originally posted by Blue Eagle Maybe the orbs were a little hint from the creators of the series? That image of Dorothy inside Dorothy 1 seems to have some DEEP symbolism to it. Doesnt that thing on her look like a crown or a tiara? She has a bit of a divine thing going on there. The image just keeps nagging at my brain... I think its some kind of running theme that Beck, who seems on the surface to chiefly be a source of comic relief, is actually responsible for some of the deepest symbolism in the series. Like the shows creators thought it would be Ironic or something.

I agree that, given a chance, Beck does things that look cool. I wouldn't go further than that.

I agree that Beck is a more serious character than he seems. But that's only to be expected, since he's obviously modeled on Lupin.

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When we thing of the relationship between the three Bigs, we think of them as a three way team. Perhaps their relationship is different. Perhaps big duo was meant to be a judge, observing from on high? Maybe Big Duo was meant to see which of the two other domineuses were the most rightous, and then come to their aid, ensuring them victory? Judging by the end of Ep. 26 with Dorothy helping Roger, seems to suggest thats what happened.

I don't think of the "Bigs" as a three-way team. There are four Megadeuses that we know of with "Big" in their names -- you left out Big Venus. In addition, there are three more that have faces that look a lot like Big O's with the mask off -- the Archetype, the Sea Titan, and Behemoth. In addition, R. Dorothy showed the ability to communicate or be mind controlled by Dorothy 1, the Archetype, the Sea Titan, Leviathan, and Big O.

This gives us partly overlapping common features that include nine Megadeuses that we know of. Ten, if you count Bonnie Frasier's Megadeus, for which he was clearly the Dominus.

There's no reason at all -- none -- to assume that the three Megadeuses who got the most air time are unsual for any reason other than that they got the most air time. Bonnie Frasier, for example, had been missing for a long time. Who knows what adventures he had with his Megadeus outside Paradigm City during that period?

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Originally posted by A Clockwork Tomato quote: Originally posted by Blue Eagle Maybe the orbs were a little hint from the creators of the series? That image of Dorothy inside Dorothy 1 seems to have some DEEP symbolism to it. Doesnt that thing on her look like a crown or a tiara? She has a bit of a divine thing going on there. The image just keeps nagging at my brain... I think its some kind of running theme that Beck, who seems on the surface to chiefly be a source of comic relief, is actually responsible for some of the deepest symbolism in the series. Like the shows creators thought it would be Ironic or something. I agree that, given a chance, Beck does things that look cool. I wouldn't go further than that. I agree that Beck is a more serious character than he seems. But that's only to be expected, since he's obviously modeled on Lupin. quote: When we thing of the relationship between the three Bigs, we think of them as a three way team. Perhaps their relationship is different. Perhaps big duo was meant to be a judge, observing from on high? Maybe Big Duo was meant to see which of the two other domineuses were the most rightous, and then come to their aid, ensuring them victory? Judging by the end of Ep. 26 with Dorothy helping Roger, seems to suggest thats what happened. I don't think of the "Bigs" as a three-way team. There are four Megadeuses that we know of with "Big" in their names -- you left out Big Venus. In addition, there are three more that have faces that look a lot like Big O's with the mask off -- the Archetype, the Sea Titan, and Behemoth. In addition, R. Dorothy showed the ability to communicate or be mind controlled by Dorothy 1, the Archetype, the Sea Titan, Leviathan, and Big O. This gives us partly overlapping common features that include nine Megadeuses that we know of. Ten, if you count Bonnie Frasier's Megadeus, for which he was clearly the Dominus. There's no reason at all -- none -- to assume that the three Megadeuses who got the most air time are unsual for any reason other than that they got the most air time. Bonnie Frasier, for example, had been missing for a long time. Who knows what adventures he had with his Megadeus outside Paradigm City during that period?

ACT, I have to disagree with your comment that there doesn't seem to be any connection between Big O, Big Duo and Big Fau that justifies them getting the most screentime of the Megadeuses. Someone other than myself has posted the wonderful theory that each of the Big Three represent an element that they control. It was stated that Big O was the Earth element, since that Megadeus was a Land combat drone. Then comes Big Duo...who dominates the skies. That made Big Duo the Air element. And finally we have Big Fau...who controls the element of Water..if we believe it's capabilities shown in Act 26. So there we have it...the Big 3 as Land, Air and Water. Don't forget that Memory fragment showing Big O, Big Duo and Big Fau acting in concert together prior to the first Reset.

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Originally posted by StevieV019 umm...no quote: And since weve never seen him without the bandages, whos to say that handsome man shes with in the last image isnt Mr. Seeback, aka. Swartzwald? Thats an usher/valet from the Nightingale club...that night, Dorothy was accompanying Timothy Wayneright... The orbs...thats a stretch, they dont represent any symbolism at all...its just part of Dorothy 1's design... Nice try though, but I think this is a big stretch to say the least...

Agreed. It's interesting, but I think it's a very big stretch.

I really don't think Dorothy was ever suspose to be the Android for Big Duo. Granted yes the clothig color schem is much simillliar to Big Dous but I doubt it was her choice to wear that Red Dress I mean during the whole time while she sining and stuff she is merley acting out the program that her "father" put in her to act like the dead daughter she was created after. I mean who knows its a possibilitiy but I mean there are so many times when Dorothy has these outside connections with Big O such as Act 13 When Big O moved with her to protect Roger from RD or when Dorothy knows that Big O sense something and what not. Interesting thought though.

-Beth