Times' TOP100

evanASF27 05-23-2005 03:48 AM
Thought a few of you might like to see this.

Link:: The List

  • Aguirre: the Wrath of God (1972)
  • The Apu Trilogy (1955, 1956, 1959)
  • The Awful Truth (1937)
  • Baby Face (1933)
  • Bande à part (1964)
  • Barry Lyndon (1975)
  • Berlin Alexanderplatz (1980)
  • Blade Runner (1982)
  • Bonnie and Clyde (1967)
  • Brazil (1985)
  • Bride of Frankenstein (1935)
  • Camille (1936)
  • Casablanca (1942)
  • Charade (1963)
  • Children of Paradise (1945)
  • Chinatown (1974)
  • Chungking Express (1994)
  • Citizen Kane (1941)
  • City Lights (1931)
  • City of God (2002)
  • Closely Watched Trains (1966)
  • The Crime of Monsieur Lange (1936)
  • The Crowd (1928)
  • Day for Night (1973)
  • The Decalogue (1989)
  • Detour (1945)
  • The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie (1972)
  • Dodsworth (1936)
  • Double Indemnity (1944)
  • Dr. Strangelove: or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb (1964)
  • Drunken Master II (1994)
  • E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial (1982)
  • 8 1/2 (1963)
  • The 400 Blows (1959)
  • Farewell My Concubine (1993)
  • Finding Nemo (2003)
  • The Fly (1986)
  • The Godfather, Parts I and II (1972, 1974)
  • The Good, The Bad and The Ugly (1966)
  • Goodfellas (1990)
  • A Hard Day's Night (1964)
  • His Girl Friday (1940)
  • Ikiru (1952)
  • In A Lonely Place (1950)
  • Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1956)
  • It's A Gift (1934)
  • It's A Wonderful Life (1946)
  • Kandahar (2001)
  • Kind Hearts and Coronets (1949)
  • King Kong (1933)
  • The Lady Eve (1941)
  • The Last Command (1928)
  • Lawrence of Arabia (1962)
  • Léolo (1992)
  • The Lord of the Rings (2001-03)
  • The Man With a Camera (1929)
  • The Manchurian Candidate (1962)
  • Meet Me in St. Louis (1944)
  • Metropolis (1927)
  • Miller's Crossing (1990)
  • Mon oncle d'Amérique (1980)
  • Mouchette (1967)
  • Nayakan (1987)
  • Ninotchka (1939)
  • Notorious (1946)
  • Olympia, Parts 1 and 2 (1938)
  • On the Waterfront (1954)
  • Once Upon a Time in the West (1968)
  • Out of the Past (1947)
  • Persona (1966)
  • Pinocchio (1940)
  • Psycho (1960)
  • Pulp Fiction (1994)
  • The Purple Rose of Cairo (1985)
  • Pyaasa (1957)
  • Raging Bull (1980)
  • Schindler's List (1993)
  • The Searchers (1956)
  • Sherlock, Jr. (1924)
  • The Shop Around the Corner (1940)
  • Singin' in the Rain (1952)
  • The Singing Detective (1986)
  • Smiles of a Summer Night (1955)
  • Some Like It Hot (1959)
  • Star Wars (1977)
  • A Streetcar Named Desire (1951)
  • Sunrise (1927)
  • Sweet Smell of Success (1957)
  • Swing Time (1936)
  • Talk to Her (2002)
  • Taxi Driver (1976)
  • Tokyo Story (1953)
  • A Touch of Zen (1971)
  • Ugetsu (1953)
  • Ulysses' Gaze (1995)
  • Umberto D (1952)
  • Unforgiven (1992)
  • White Heat (1949)
  • Wings of Desire (1987)
  • Yojimbo (1961)
Travis Bickle 05-23-2005 08:36 AM
What I agree with:

quote:

  • Blade Runner (1982)
  • Bonnie and Clyde (1967)
  • Casablanca (1942)
  • Citizen Kane (1941)
  • City Lights (1931)
  • Dr. Strangelove: or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb (1964)
  • Finding Nemo (2003)
  • The Godfather, Parts I and II (1972, 1974)
  • The Good, The Bad and The Ugly (1966)
  • Goodfellas (1990)
  • It's A Wonderful Life (1946)
  • Lawrence of Arabia (1962)
  • The Manchurian Candidate (1962)
  • Metropolis (1927)
  • Once Upon a Time in the West (1968 )
  • Psycho (1960)
  • Pulp Fiction (1994)
  • Raging Bull (1980)
  • Schindler's List (1993)
  • Singin' in the Rain (1952)
  • Some Like It Hot (1959)
  • A Streetcar Named Desire (1951)
  • Taxi Driver (1976)
  • Unforgiven (1992)


What should be on there (off of the top of my head):
quote:

  • A Clockwork Orange
  • The Shining
  • West Side Story
  • 2001
  • Resivoir Dogs
  • Dark City
  • Momento
  • Sideways
  • The Green Mile
  • 12 Monkeys
  • Pi
  • Requiem for a Dream
  • Jacob's Ladder
  • The Shawshank Redemption
  • Sin City
  • Sleepless in Seattle
  • Akira
  • Fear and Loathing In Las Vegas
  • Adaptation
  • Eternal Sunshine in the Spotless Mind
BethMcBeth 05-23-2005 12:07 PM
Wow defently a interesting list! Go King Kong! lol ^_^"

-Beth
A Clockwork Tomato 05-23-2005 06:53 PM
They should be ashamed of themselves. Movies that absolutely must be on the list:


    The Blues Brothers
    Duck Soup (Marx Brothers)
    Raiders of the Lost Ark


Movies that absolutely don't belong:


    Pinocchio (gag me)
    The remake of The Fly
    Metropolis (it's just a mindless melodrama that happens to be set in the future)


I think that the best movie on the whole list may well be Lawrence of Arabia.
Lupin IV 05-23-2005 09:22 PM
For a second I thought those were in order Shocked

Anyway, where's Back to the Future? Indiana Jones?
dawnstrider 05-25-2005 05:27 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Bleedthrough

What should be on there (off of the top of my head):
[quote]
[b][list][*] 2001


Definitely Smile ; That was one of the few sci-fi movies that I truly enjoyed
quote:

[*] Momento


That is arguably my favorite movie...at the moment Smile . I love experimental Postmodernism, and that was probably one of the most well-done examples to see the light of day in some time - though it's not without its problems.
quote:

[*] The Shawshank Redemption


I agree wholeheartedly. That was a wonderful movie, and holds a special place for me Smile .

As for the rest of the list, I can't say that I'm much of a movie buff, but the ones that I am familiar with and run along my particular tastes I agree with, I suppose.

...Though the odds are high that some other magazine out there in India, Mali, or wherever has a very different list, barring a few repeats.

Peace Cool

Edit: Oh yeah! I would also add American Beauty - that was a wonderful film. Period
Sharpshooter005 06-05-2005 10:23 PM
Finding nemo? You have to be kidding me. Aside from...well..I think it wasn't the absolute best Pixar has done (apparently thats the incredibles, though I haven't seen it). It wasn't really that memorable in any way. Had they picked toy story, they could have easily defended it with "this was the first/one of the first blockbuster CG animation films, it paved the way for numerous others". I wouldn't contest that at all.

The remake of the fly is on there. Um..okay.

E.T. is on there (I can KIND OF understand that...if I really, really try.)

You'll notice how nothing directed by Tarkovsky is on there..well..I've only seen one list like this where they even aknowledge he existed. Maybe he's not well known because of the cold war, even though he defected. Or it could be..well..his movies aren't all that accessible. Even sometimes to a rabid fan like myself, I've seen stalker twice, both times led to heated debates with people I know over the last scene. Any of the viewpoints expressed could be right (I personally like mine best though,
spoiler (highlight to read):
it dosen't matter if his kid moved the glass with her mind, or if it was the train that did it. The point is theres hope the crippled girl may have some gift for the future, and especially during the reign of the soviets, hope for the future was incredibly vital..at least I THINK thats what I basically came away saying.
)

Furthermore. Wheres Birth of a Nation? And spare me the "it was terribly racist", no it was just kind of terrible in a number of ways, the scene immidiately following the "war breaks out' card or whatever, of the puppy and kitten fighting in a basket had me laughing. As did the klansmen with what looked like toilet plungers on their heads. Hell I own it on dvd, and could go on for a while about how psychotically inaccurate and reactionary most of it was.

This dosen't change the fact D.W. Griffith was a cinematic pioneer, as well as a terrible person. You watch that shot of Shermans march to the sea, remember that was completely unheard of at the time, then you can really appreciate how this movie influenced the techniques used later on. Also it was..well, the first feature length motion picture pretty much.

I mean there are a few on there which, much as I love them (Pulp Fiction, which I've seen AT LEAST five times could count) I could live with seeing them bumped in favor of what I named above.

These lists seem to either nail it, which is rare, come very close which is normal, or totally miss the point. This one...seems to fall into the third category.

edit: Oh, before anyone asks. No, the upcoming (eventually..) game "Stalker" isn't based on the movie. It's based to some extent on the novel "The Roadside Picnic" by Strugatsky, which Tarkovsky's Stalker also was adapted from. The movie and novel are VERY different. Eventually though I'd love to find that novel.
Green_Bird 06-05-2005 11:23 PM
Where's the Matrix.....I mean at least the first one should be on there. And while we're at it, where's Pink Floyd's the Wall? Do people not like that movie or something? And I would have also picked Yellow Submarine as well as A Hard day's Night (Which is on the list), Mainly because they were both good Beatles movies, and Yellow Submarine doesn't get a lot of respect in the first place, same thing goes for Magical Mystery tour. The original Star Wars Trilogy, Phantom of the Opera (The new one), the Princess Bride, Rocky Horror, Spinal Tap, and at least one Monty Python movie should have been there also. Those are just the ones I could think of off the top of my head...there's a whole lot more that should have been on the list.

But for ones that have no right being there, the remake of the fly, I would choose the original...NOT the remake. And Finding Nemo, like Sharpshooter said Toy Story would have been a better choice. There's alot more but I think I kept you here with my ranting long enugh. But really....don't some of these Times readers know good movies when they see them!?!?!?!
Sharpshooter005 06-05-2005 11:37 PM
quote:
don't some of these Times readers know good movies when they see them!?!?!?!


Alot on there I haven't gotten around to seeing, but know of/am aware it influenced future movies. So I think thats part of it.

Finding Nemo/E.T. I think was just because the first ones well known, and E.T. was loved by many when they were kids (E.T. the alien scared me for a while as a kid, I think part of that was because as a child I found those little reeces candies disgusting. Maybe I still do, I haven't had one in a while..they definately aren't the peanut butter cups. Also I thought the ship was a faberge egg. Furthermore the government agents, who are only shown running and waving flashlights, always seemed kind of mysterious and cool to me.)
dawnstrider 06-06-2005 04:15 PM
quote:
You'll notice how nothing directed by Tarkovsky is on there..well..I've only seen one list like this where they even aknowledge he existed. Maybe he's not well known because of the cold war, even though he defected. Or it could be..well..his movies aren't all that accessible. Even sometimes to a rabid fan like myself, I've seen stalker twice, both times led to heated debates with people I know over the last scene. Any of the viewpoints expressed could be right (I personally like mine best though,
spoiler (highlight to read):
it dosen't matter if his kid moved the glass with her mind, or if it was the train that did it. The point is theres hope the crippled girl may have some gift for the future, and especially during the reign of the soviets, hope for the future was incredibly vital..at least I THINK thats what I basically came away saying.
)


Thanks for reminding me....you make a very good point with that Smile . He is one of my favorite directors, and though I've never seen Stalker, I've seen both Andrei Rublev and his beautifully done version of Lem's "Solaris". I feel that he was a brilliant director, and barring whatever particular reasons for his absence from the list (there are a number of possible reasons, though the obvious - and also rather illogical - might play some part in it) he definitely should have had something on there.
But, like I said, who can really take a particular magazine's word on its opinion of the "greatest" films of all time? I'm sure Tarkovsky appears somewhere in top movies list somewhere in West Africa - he was, after all, a favorite of many of there top directors, including the great Souleymane Cisse, whose films, I'm mostly certain, trump old Nemo by a bit of a margin Tongue Smile .

Well, whatever. It's not like Time's convinced me of anything anyway.

Peace Cool
Volt 06-06-2005 04:21 PM
Finding Nemo? That really surprises me...
Sharpshooter005 06-06-2005 05:02 PM
quote:
I've seen both Andrei Rublev


I have the dvd, but haven't watched it in ages (stuff keeps coming up.)

When I DID watch it, on a really...bad computer, it skipped one bit. The dvd itself appears fine though, so I'm guessing it was that particular player.

Hoping, really. It's also the only one I've been able to find on dvd so far (the criterion edition, specifically.)

Stalker was great. One of my favorite aspects of it was how everything outside "the zone" was black and white. While everything taking place within the wasteland area is in color.
088nd 06-08-2005 11:17 PM
City of God = #1
Nine Kuze 02-23-2007 03:43 PM
*It's been brought back...*

What I agree with, with what I've seen and heard of course are:

quote:
Barry Lyndon (1975), Bonnie and Clyde (1967), Casablanca (1942), Charade (1963), Chinatown (1974), Citizen Kane (1941), City Lights (1931), City of God (2002), Double Indemnity (1944), Dr. Strangelove: or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb (1964), Farewell My Concubine (1993), The Godfather, Parts I and II (1972, 1974), The Good, The Bad and The Ugly (1966), Goodfellas (1990), Ikiru (1952), It's A Wonderful Life (1946), King Kong (1933), Lawrence of Arabia (1962), The Lord of the Rings (2001-03), The Manchurian Candidate (1962), Metropolis (1927), Ninotchka (1939), On the Waterfront (1954), Pinocchio (1940), Psycho (1960), Pulp Fiction (1994), The Purple Rose of Cairo (1985), Raging Bull (1980), Schindler's List (1993), The Searchers (1956), Singin' in the Rain (1952), Some Like It Hot (1959), Star Wars (1977), A Streetcar Named Desire (1951), Taxi Driver (1976), Unforgiven (1992)


It's cool that TIME was trying to represent for foreign films but this list is rather flawed overall. The best films on here are On the Waterfront, Schindler's List, The Godfather, I and II, Lawrence of Arabia, Casablanca and Chinatown. Why the hell films like 2001: A Space Odyssey, Ben-Hur, The Bicycle Thief, The Third Man, Seven Samurai, Vertigo and Stagecoach aren't on this list is beyond me.

Also, just for fun and since its in the notion as this list, here's the American Film Institute's 100 Best American Films of all time (in order):
1. CITIZEN KANE (1941)
2. CASABLANCA (1942)
3. THE GODFATHER (1972)
4. GONE WITH THE WIND (1939)
5. LAWRENCE OF ARABIA (1962)
6. THE WIZARD OF OZ (1939)
7. THE GRADUATE (1967)
8. ON THE WATERFRONT (1954)
9. SCHINDLER'S LIST (1993)
10. SINGIN' IN THE RAIN (1952)
11. IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE (1946)
12. SUNSET BOULEVARD (1950)
13. THE BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI (1957)
14. SOME LIKE IT HOT (1959)
15. STAR WARS (1977)
16. ALL ABOUT EVE (1950)
17. THE AFRICAN QUEEN (1951)
18. PSYCHO (1960)
19. CHINATOWN (1974)
20. ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO'S NEST (1975)
21. THE GRAPES OF WRATH (1940)
22. 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY (1968 )
23. THE MALTESE FALCON (1941)
24. RAGING BULL (1980)
25. E.T. THE EXTRA-TERRESTRIAL (1982)
26. DR. STRANGELOVE (1964)
27. BONNIE AND CLYDE (1967)
28. APOCALYPSE NOW (1979)
29. MR. SMITH GOES TO WASHINGTON (1939)
30. THE TREASURE OF THE SIERRA MADRE (1948 )
31. ANNIE HALL (1977)
32. THE GODFATHER PART II (1974)
33. HIGH NOON (1952)
34. TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD (1962)
35. IT HAPPENED ONE NIGHT (1934)
36. MIDNIGHT COWBOY (1969)
37. THE BEST YEARS OF OUR LIVES (1946)
38. DOUBLE INDEMNITY (1944)
39. DOCTOR ZHIVAGO (1965)
40. NORTH BY NORTHWEST (1959)
41. WEST SIDE STORY (1961)
42. REAR WINDOW (1954)
43. KING KONG (1933)
44. THE BIRTH OF A NATION (1915)
45. A STREETCAR NAMED DESIRE (1951)
46. A CLOCKWORK ORANGE (1971)
47. TAXI DRIVER (1976)
48. JAWS (1975)
49. SNOW WHITE AND THE SEVEN DWARFS (1937)
50. BUTCH CASSIDY AND THE SUNDANCE KID (1969)
51. THE PHILADELPHIA STORY (1940)
52. FROM HERE TO ETERNITY (1953)
53. AMADEUS (1984)
54. ALL QUIET ON THE WESTERN FRONT (1930)
55. THE SOUND OF MUSIC (1965)
56. M*A*S*H (1970)
57. THE THIRD MAN (1949)
58. FANTASIA (1940)
59. REBEL WITHOUT A CAUSE (1955)
60. RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK (1981)
61. VERTIGO (1958 )
62. TOOTSIE (1982)
63. STAGECOACH (1939)
64. CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND (1977)
65. THE SILENCE OF THE LAMBS (1991)
66. NETWORK (1976)
67. THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE (1962)
68. AN AMERICAN IN PARIS (1951)
69. SHANE (1953)
70. THE FRENCH CONNECTION (1971)
71. FORREST GUMP (1994)
72. BEN-HUR (1959)
73. WUTHERING HEIGHTS (1939)
74. THE GOLD RUSH (1925)
75. DANCES WITH WOLVES (1990)
76. CITY LIGHTS (1931)
77. AMERICAN GRAFFITI (1973)
78. ROCKY (1976)
79. THE DEER HUNTER (1978 )
80. THE WILD BUNCH (1969)
81. MODERN TIMES (1936)
82. GIANT (1956)
83. PLATOON (1986)
84. FARGO (1996)
85. DUCK SOUP (1933)
86. MUTINY ON THE BOUNTY (1935)
87. FRANKENSTEIN (1931)
88. EASY RIDER (1969)
89. PATTON (1970)
90. THE JAZZ SINGER (1927)
91. MY FAIR LADY (1964)
92. A PLACE IN THE SUN (1951)
93. THE APARTMENT (1960)
94. GOODFELLAS (1990)
95. PULP FICTION (1994)
96. THE SEARCHERS (1956)
97. BRINGING UP BABY (1938 )
98. UNFORGIVEN (1992)
99. GUESS WHO'S COMING TO DINNER (1967)
100. YANKEE DOODLE DANDY (1942)

Peace.
seraphjei 02-24-2007 01:54 AM
The AFI list is more appealing to me. I can easily recognize all the movies on that list and know why the movies are there. The Times' list on the other hand I really don't care too much for.
Hollow XXVI 02-24-2007 05:24 PM
Yep, same here. AFI wins for mentioning Psycho and Silence of the Lambs. I unfortunately haven't seen Vertigo yet...but I'm sure I'd enjoy it. Because Hitchcock is awesome, hell I liked Topaz better than any Bond movie..just don't tell Roger Moore.
Pie_Junkie 02-24-2007 05:26 PM
quote:
  • Blade Runner (1982)
  • Bride of Frankenstein (1935)
  • Casablanca (1942)
  • Citizen Kane (1941)
  • The Fly (1986)
  • Goodfellas (1990)
  • Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1956)
  • Metropolis (1927)
  • Psycho (1960)
  • Pulp Fiction (1994)
  • Schindler's List (1993)
  • Some Like It Hot (1959)
  • Star Wars (1977)
  • Taxi Driver (1976)


The rest of the movies I haven't seen of don't like, I need to get on my movie watching again.
Nine Kuze 02-24-2007 08:06 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Hollow XXVI
I unfortunately haven't seen Vertigo yet...but I'm sure I'd enjoy it.

WHAT?! o_O Get to watching that Holleh, one of best made films of all-time.

Yeah like I said before, AFI is for American films so more people would be familiar with their list than the list for TIME, which includes a lot of foriegn and silent films.
Peace.