I'm gonna regret this

Lyinginbedmon 05-06-2005 02:58 PM
Is it my imagination, or is there a difference between Angel at the start of the series


And Angel at the end?


I realise I'm gonna sound like a total Ecchi saying this, but I think her b****t size has changed Sweatdrop

Is Angel really that vain?
Tickle Tickle 05-06-2005 03:14 PM
In the second season, all the characters look screwed up. Roger has pointy elf ears, Angel looks chubby, Dorothy looks human, and Dastun looks like a gorilla.

And in that shot (from the last episode) both Angel and Dorothy look odd to me. For one thing, the proportion looks a bit odd. Angel looks short and chubby, Dorothy just don'st look the same. I'm kinda wondering if the animators made them look so werid on purpose. (in the whole episode, Angel and Dorothy look perfect)
evanASF27 05-06-2005 03:15 PM
hmm....
BEFORE


AFTER



....I'm gonna say "yes", but I'm not sure....
BethMcBeth 05-06-2005 03:37 PM
Oh definitely yes, I mean it is true during the series not only is she just wearing different clothes that are more reveling but it does appear that her breast size is a lot larger or smaller at different times. I mean it could just be that maybe she was wearing different types of bras or other form fitting outfits.

What I think really happens is that over time while during the production of a anime multiple artists draw these characters over and over again especially in season one when the first season was not all computer generated. Thus being that since it was drawn by hand I am sure that her breast sizes along with other things throughout the series are subject to change or be off and so on.

As for second season I am sure that since it was Computer Generated that well as for most fan boys a larger breast size is more attractive. (No I am not saying that breasts are all that fan boys or other fans think about but they can make a difference.) Thus again being CG I am sure they plugged in a certain number of pixels and then went with it.

-Beth
Tickle Tickle 05-06-2005 04:36 PM
It's just all you perverts out there. =P

Seriously, it's not like Angel's bust is really noticable. (Unless she decides to take off 60% of her clothes like in Act 007) From the pictures that Evan posted, there really in'st much of a difference. It's not like her breasts sticks out like Faye's or you-know-who's (Wink ) giant sandbags.

Shoot, even Prima from Pokemon has a more memorable chest!



sorry if I sounded very pervy and vulgar.. >.>;
Lyinginbedmon 05-06-2005 04:46 PM
As perverted as this might sound (And indeed probably is), I think Angel's got her beat by a couple cup-sizes...
ravenlore 05-06-2005 05:48 PM
yeah, there's some variability, but no more that real human women who have lots of different bras. and water retention, and what have you.
Zopwx2 05-06-2005 06:14 PM
I don't really trust that last scene for character accuracy anyway.

Mostly its probably just perspective making her look smaller.
Lyinginbedmon 05-06-2005 06:16 PM
Well, I realise that the pictures I originally posted aren't perfect for the task at hand, however scale comparison still shows a distinct increase in size between the pictures (I am so dead for all this Crying )
paul1290 05-06-2005 07:23 PM
I think it's just because of the different animation style. I really don't see any significant difference.


quote:
posted by Lyinginbedmon:
(I am so dead for all this )

Don't worry. As long as your discussing it in a mature and civilized manner, there is no problem with this discussion. Just don't start joking about it and you'll be fine.
evanASF27 05-06-2005 09:12 PM
Well it's not only Angel but Dorothy too.

Dorothy's style changed enough that


...well....it's different enough Oh Well
Lupin IV 05-06-2005 09:17 PM
Every character changed a little, I think. I remember watching some episodes from season II and I could have sworn I was seeing Manga-Roger.
Captain Maw 05-06-2005 11:01 PM
well, different lighting and angle's change the way they look. not to mention the discrepencies in drawing style. i mean, what do you expect? for them to look identical when it's done by a human hand? but actual, intentional differences for the seasons? i dunno... if it's too hard to notice, than what's the point of changing it?
Fr0zEnPh0eNiX 05-06-2005 11:02 PM
Hmm, I don't think anyone can question that Season 1's animation quality vastly beats that of season 2.

..but when it comes to that last shot with the 2 of them. When I first saw it I thought it made Dorothy look more human. And angel looked a little different too.. so maybe since everything was "reset" they were given different roles.. or something.
Blue Eagle 05-07-2005 02:02 AM
I think it could very well be intentional as a subtle part of a plot.
If it is, it would fit into my Perfect Drama Theory.

I mean, if R-2 Angel is trying to attract attention of a character she fell in love with through the use of a virtual incarnation of herself (R-1 Angel, who lacks any memories of the real world), wouldnt it make sense that she would give her incarnation a little "advantage"
as she got more desperate and began to see any chance of attracting Roger's love slipping away?
A Clockwork Tomato 05-07-2005 08:13 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Fr0zEnPh0eNiX
Hmm, I don't think anyone can question that Season 1's animation quality vastly beats that of season 2.


I question it. In fact, I deny it. The drawing style is variable in both seasons.

If you want to see real improvement between Season 1 and Season 2, watch ELECTRIC CITY and then DAY OF THE ADVENT. Angel is a zillion times hotter in the same pink jumpsuit in DAY OF THE ADVENT than she was in ELECTRIC CITY.
R and D 05-07-2005 10:42 AM
quote:
Originally posted by evanASF27
Well it's not only Angel but Dorothy too.

Dorothy's style changed enough that


...well....it's different enough Oh Well


yeah Dorothy and Angel have defianately changed. in the 1st season dorothy looked so mature and now she looks like a very tall six year old because of those eyes. Roll Eyes

Angel is the same deal. she looked so much mature in the 1st season ( i mean she would have to be being a year older than roger), but now she seems more of a baby. Baby

Roger looks more like an elf than a dominus and dastun thought botox would help him, but it made him look like a gorilla instead. Pleased

about the pic of angel and dorothy in the last scene of act 26, i think it's just where angel's standing. usually people who stand far away seem small. or the creators decided to something funky in that scene. Sweatdrop

Then again it could be the color that they used in season two. who knows. Oh Well
Tickle Tickle 05-07-2005 11:27 AM
quote:
Originally posted by A Clockwork Tomato
I question it. In fact, I deny it. The drawing style is variable in both seasons.


I disagree. The characters looked more consistent in the first season, even though the art style changes around each epsiode. The second season had some really bad inconsistency.
paul1290 05-07-2005 01:56 PM
Episode with the worst animation: act 11: daemonseed

Act 11 had some really bad animation screw ups like:
-Faded colors
-messed up distances
-certain objects changing colors for no apparent reason (like Dorothy's hair, Roger's shades, and the saxaphone guy's clothing.)
-people have a LOT of facial features missing in certain scenes. (I know this is normal but it seems pretty bad in this episode)
-characters end up distorted in several scenes.
-movement often ends up completely unnatural

If you want to see something really messed up. Go watch the DVD and fast forward to the part where Dorothy goes back to Laura's apartment a second time. Pause the DVD when she says "Hello Laura.". Trust me, it's really really awful.
Jonny Axehandle 05-07-2005 02:13 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Lyinginbedmon
Is it my imagination, or is there a difference between Angel at the start of the series


And Angel at the end?


I realise I'm gonna sound like a total Ecchi saying this, but I think her bust size has changed Sweatdrop

Is Angel really that vain?


Those are too completely different costumes and are shown at different angles.

quote:
Originally posted by evanASF27
hmm....
BEFORE


AFTER



....I'm gonna say "yes", but I'm not sure....


In the first one she has her arms held around them, pressing them upward.