R-D=Dorothy prototype! (Paul's thoughts)
| paul1290 |
04-08-2005 10:43 AM |
Before reading this, you should first read my theory on Dorothy on the thread called: Hard Drives and Artificial skin(Paul's thoughts)
I will refer back to it several times here. here's the link:
Dorothy theory
If someone has already posted this idea then feel free to delete it.
I have reason to beleive that R-D might actually be a prototype for R.Dorothy that was reprogrammed by an unknown individual. At the end of episode 13, when we see R-D's disk drive, if you look closely, you will find that the drive actually seems to resemble a magnetic disk drive (otherwise known as a hard drive) rather then an optical drive used for CD/DVD format because it seems to be fixed and has a read/write head on a swing arm not present in optical drives. Now as I stated in my earlier theory, Dorothy definatly does not use a hard disk. Though it would be perfectly reasonable to use one in a prototype because it is cheap and easier to rewrite in case somthing goes wrong. Also, I don't think R-D's drive was ment to slip out at all, the headband cover was pretty thick, It might have been shoved out when her skull was destroyed. There is also the fact the R-D's voice is a lot more electronic sounding than Dorothy's.
There is also no evidence that her hair is red like Dorothy's or that R-D's skin tone is the same, it actually looked grayish. R-D might actually fall into the pit of the "uncanny valley" I mentioned in my other theory.
So! What do you think?
| Elessar169 |
04-08-2005 11:41 AM |
I can't remember who, but someone pointed out that RD's barcode is the same barcode seen in Roger's eyes, implying that Roger is R-D. It may be in sixfortyfive's plot analysis.
Elessar
| paul1290 |
04-08-2005 12:11 PM |
Paul returns to check on this thread and finds it...
...unusually empty again?
I was thinking topics like this would attract more attention.
I have never heard that theory Elessar, but if the barcodes were the same it might mean somthing else. It might mean that Roger Smith was R-D's primary target and the others were merely secondary objectives or were killed just to get Roger's attention.
| Captain Maw |
04-08-2005 12:26 PM |
i'm skeptical, smith is most probably not RD. makes no sense. also, i dont think it was 6-45.
| paul1290 |
04-08-2005 12:39 PM |
Darn, this thread is so barren. I was really hoping more people would post here.
I'm thinking of doing more of these theory/analysis threads.
Possible future topics:
1. the calibre of Alan's gun
2. Roger's watch
3. Dorothy's "wirring" sound when she moves
4. Big-O weaponry
| TanookiJoe |
04-08-2005 12:50 PM |
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Originally posted by paul1290
Darn, this thread is so barren. I was really hoping more people would post here. |
Don't take it too hard. For being the centerpiece of this site, this particular forum isn't the most well-trafficked. I, however, have found your posts informative and original, so keep at it!
As for R-D, she's definitely related to Dorothy, but frankly, I have no idea how. The episode that deals with it the most, Act 15, just leaves me confused.
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I'm thinking of doing more of these theory/analysis threads.
Possible future topics:
1. the calibre of Alan's gun
2. Roger's watch
3. Dorothy's "wirring" sound when she moves
4. Big-O weaponry |
I'll be looking forward to them!
| The Fallen Phoenix |
04-08-2005 02:30 PM |
| quote: |
Originally posted by Captain Maw
i'm skeptical, smith is most probably not RD. makes no sense. also, i dont think it was 6-45. |
I think Elessar meant that the R-D indicated by the list Roger obtained from Angel in the library was supposed to indicate Roger, not that Roger was the android commonly known as R-D.
It is very probable that the android was indeed a prototype of Dorothy, and I would not be surprised if the android was reprogrammed under the orders of Alex Rosewater.
| relenz |
04-08-2005 02:59 PM |
Perhaps the barcode in R-D is Alex's, then?
We find that the tomato in most of Roger's visions is Alex...
If Alex programs RD, as is said in the last episode by..someone...then perhaps it is a reflection of his influence.
| paul1290 |
04-08-2005 03:39 PM |
Paul comes back and finds more people posting! Yay!
Finally! People are starting to notice my theories!
I should have yet another posted up soon. It's either gonna be the calibre of Alan's gun or Dorothy's whirring sound.
Good point Fallen Phoenix, it could be Alex. However, I personally don't think so because it doesn't sound like somthing Alex would do, it sounds more like somthing Schwarzwald or Alan Gabriel would do. I guess if it was Alan then it would have been under Alex's orders though.
| The Fallen Phoenix |
04-08-2005 04:01 PM |
| quote: |
Originally posted by paul1290
Paul comes back and finds more people posting! Yay!
Finally! People are starting to notice my theories!
I should have yet another posted up soon. It's either gonna be the calibre of Alan's gun or Dorothy's whirring sound.
Good point Fallen Phoenix, it could be Alex. However, I personally don't think so because it doesn't sound like somthing Alex would do, it sounds more like somthing Schwarzwald or Alan Gabriel would do. I guess if it was Alan then it would have been under Alex's orders though. |
I do not think Schwarzwald even knew about the tomatoes; Alex, on the other hand, certainly did
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| (even if he did mistakenly believe he himself was not one of them) |
. Furthermore, Alex must have, at the very least, been aware of the situation since it was Angel who gave Roger the list in the library which contained the names of the android's victims.
| paul1290 |
04-08-2005 04:28 PM |
I guess your right, Schwarzwald never knew about the tomatoes, funny how that slipped my mind. It really could have been Alex after all. I completely forgot about Angel too. So I guess Alex is the only culprit then.
Ok, I'm sure I'm gonna do a theory on how Dorothy makes that whirring sound because the Alan's gun calibre is proving to be really tough.
| BethMcBeth |
04-08-2005 04:31 PM |
Hmm this is also a interesting theory as well, could RD have been a prototype for Dorothy? Hmm who knows I like to beleive different thouhg. I like to think that Dorothy was actually the prototype herself and well after her use was no longer needed she was or could be tossed aside easily. There is a bit of evidence in the first epsoide when Waynewright specificly says this is not my daughter this is a dummy. Its still a good thoery though! ^_^"" Keep up the awesome work.
And sometimes I also wonder how free Dorothy really was with her father, I wrote a little poem/story about that its here
The Cry of The Nightingale if you want. ^_^"""
-Beth McBeth
| Schoolie |
04-08-2005 04:44 PM |
I posted a couple of R-D comments/questions on the "Discuss the Current Episode" thread.
In my mind, R-D is a prototype of Dorothy that was shelved because it didn't work or was incomplete. (We see the storage "coffin" when Roger comes across it in the train tunnels.)
As for who "awakened" and programmed her, my guess is either someone from the Union or possibly it was caused by the Behemoth who hoarded memories. The megadueses are known to interact "telepathically" with androids.
| Captain Maw |
04-08-2005 11:49 PM |
yeah, i mean, i wonder if they keep track of androids in teh city, if not, there's probably a lot of androids amuck and homociding around. RD's coffin. wtf?.
anyway, that whirring sound comes and goes. i think they just use it as an artistic thing, to emphasize that she's an android.
| A Clockwork Tomato |
04-09-2005 01:54 AM |
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Originally posted by Schoolie
I posted a couple of R-D comments/questions on the "Discuss the Current Episode" thread.
In my mind, R-D is a prototype of Dorothy that was shelved because it didn't work or was incomplete. (We see the storage "coffin" when Roger comes across it in the train tunnels.)
As for who "awakened" and programmed her, my guess is either someone from the Union or possibly it was caused by the Behemoth who hoarded memories. The megadueses are known to interact "telepathically" with androids. |
We have reason to believe that the "tomatoes" were killed for the same reason as the senators -- because they knew things that could cause trouble for Alex. Both groups were presumably killed by Alex.
R-D's gleeful homicide was reminiscent of Alan Gabriel's attitude, while the things she said sounded like the sort of religious-sounding nonsense that Alex Rosewater often spouts. So I'd say that the smart money is that Alan and Alex are behind R.D.
I doubt she's a prototype -- more of a spare.
For that matter, I'm not the least bit convinced that R.D.'s hair color is different from Dorothy's. Dorothy's hair is drawn in different shades depending on the lighting. I haven't gone back to check if she's shown with the same brownish shade in gloomy interior shots, but I think she is.
Finally, don't fall for the old error that R-D was working from the same list that Roger was. The list Roger had (which ended with "R-D" but Roger's barcode) was planted in a copy of METROPOLIS by Angel, especially for him to find. Its purpose was to lead him to R-D. The list R-D was working from was almost certainly NOT written down, and would have had "Roger Smith" at the end, not her own name!
| paul1290 |
04-09-2005 08:19 AM |
I tend to think that her hair color is different because in the scene where you first see part of her face, when you just see her lower face and a stick of lipstick, her hair and skin appear grayish even though they are being illuminated by the light in the room. Also, this may be nitpicking a bit, but when it was being lit up by the electrical sparks near the end, her hair reflected blue light, If her hair was truly red like Dorothy's, it should have appeared pitch black against the blue light.
(though this might have just been a mistake by the animators)
I'll probably do a theory regarding how Dorothy's sense of touch (assuming she has one) might work because the whirring sound is turning out rather pointless and silly