The War of the Worlds

Almasy 07-03-2005 08:45 PM
Well I just got back from seeing it the second time...

Overall it's a pretty good movie, but there are lots of corny/joke-y moments which I *can't stand*...and the ending was weak.

Oh and I HATED that boring part where they were stuck in the basement with the crazy guy for like 45 minutes of the movie...that went on way too long.

My other major complaint is that they showed the actual aliens. I wish they hadn't. It would have been much creepier if they had just stuck to showing the big machine things.

Other than that everything else was great, and the beginning/middle was the best part for sure.
David Ryder 07-03-2005 09:04 PM
I saw it today, and I must say it's quite good. the ending is pretty much the same as the 50's version and you see the aliens in the 50's version too, although not as long.
Lupin IV 07-03-2005 09:43 PM
Don't they nuke the aliens in a v-shape plane at the end in the 50s version?
David Ryder 07-03-2005 11:25 PM
It's been along time since I've seen the 50's version, so I'm not 100% sure. ; ;
lts_silver 07-04-2005 12:14 AM
Yes, in the 1953 version, they send a Flying Wing to drop the A-Bomb just outside Los Angeles. It didn't even touch them. Their shielding held against all that tremendous force. Also, they do show the aliens a little bit more in the 2005 version than the 1953 one, but essentially they were both shown around the middle of the film. Also the crazy guy in this new version is Steven Spielberg's represent of one of the characters in the book. I really suggest you guys read it if you wanna understand why Spielberg does some of the things he does in this version.
Fujiko 07-04-2005 04:46 AM
I liked that the movie seemed realistic, that it wasn't because humans were (directly) the victors. (Take Independence Day as an example.) I also did notice none of the cheesy cliches which I give Spielberg credit for.

But the ending sucked.

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Robbie should have died.


But that's just me.
Lupin IV 07-04-2005 10:21 AM
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Originally posted by Fujiko
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Robbie should have died.


But that's just me.


Agreed.
Collateral 07-04-2005 10:39 PM
I thought it was okay but it could have been better. It's not something I would watch again but I do encourage people to see it.

Pros
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1. I liked how our little friends that we learn about in biology were the ones who helped out in the end (I am a major science nerd).


Cons
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1. I wish that they hadn't shown the aliens. I just think that aliens in a movie (except for Star Wars, of course Big Grin ) ruin it.

2. Robbie should have died. It would have made for a more dramatic ending.

3. The cellar scene was way too long.
Captain Maw 07-05-2005 06:26 AM
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Originally posted by Collateral
Pros
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1. I liked how our little friends that we learn about in biology were the ones who helped out in the end (I am a major science nerd).


Cons
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1. I wish that they hadn't shown the aliens. I just think that aliens in a movie (except for Star Wars, of course Big Grin ) ruin it.

2. Robbie should have died. It would have made for a more dramatic ending.


i pretty much agree with everything.. except #3, that was okay, and a little shaky on #1 on the Cons.. i thought it was okay... at least they didn't blunder such a delicate scene.

remember to add:
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Pros: no or very little cliche's and stick'in to the novel in terms of plot (not character or setting).
Cons: Katie Holmes didn't have to scream every single freak'in time... a couple is acceptable, but not every time she had the chance, oh and some mite get peeved at the emotional-freakout Tom Cruise
Mike 07-05-2005 08:52 AM
I saw this on Sunday night. I actually liked it a lot. There were a few things that I didn't really care for, though.

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Tim Robbins really freaked me out. When he was sharpening that knife while Ray was singing to Rachel, I thought he was gonna go Donner Party on them.

Another part with Tim Robbins: I didn't think that it was necessary for Ray to kill him. The aliens could have just busted in and he could have been eaten by the Tripod.

Rachel was a little annoying. mostly because for the first half of the movie she shreiked nonstop. That was a bit unnecessary.

Ray had a cool car. For about 30 seconds.

Oh yeah, toasting the starter wouldn't cause cars to stop dead in their tracks, it would just make them not start up again. Although that could have been a side effect of EMP.

OH YEAH!! that video camera that the guy had in the beginning! How was it working when everything else electronic was broken 30 seconds before?

that scene where the Tripod came out of the street was filmed in Newark, NJ. My dad grew up there and recognized it. I think Ray lived in Bayonne even though he worked in Brooklyn.

I've never seen the 50s version, but my dad told me that Ray's ex wife's parents were the stars of that version.

I expected Tim (Rachel and Robbie's stepdad) to be dead and then their mom would have been all "omg Ray I'm so glad to see you!"
Sephiroth 07-05-2005 09:32 AM
I have yet to see it, as I refuse to see it at all. I hate Tom Cruise with a passion not only because he is crazy, but also because he tries to hide the fact that he is from Kentucky. He was born and raised here. My aunt taught him in grade school, and actually told him, "You will either be a bum on the street, or an actor in Hollywood." He attended my high school as well, and did nothing there. Anyway, I also cannot imagine that this movie could be as good as Orson Well's radio broadcast, so it can only be a huge let down for me. HOWEVER, my friend has gone to see it, and has written an article for my unofficial school paper, about 2 months in advance (which is why he refers to June as being in the distant past). Due to its relevance, I will post it here first. I find it rather amusing, and I hope you all enjoy. (Contains some spoilers)

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The War of the Worlds: More like "The War of the Not-That-Greats".
By My currently anonymous friend

Sorry, but I'm not as good at word play as some of the newspapers are. Most of you who have not suffered major head trauma may remember a movie that came out at the end of June called War of the Worlds. This is a movie in which Aliens bury massive robots in the ground a million years ago so they could come back up now and try to destroy Tom Cruise. I guess the aliens were as sick and tired of all his publicity as I was. While these aliens are trying to make Cruise's life as miserable as possible (go aliens!), Tom must struggle to keep his family together. His son feels like he has to fight the aliens so Tom Cruise must use his fatherly knowledge of how the alien brain works to keep him from fighting. Good thing Tom completely grasps the concept of extra-terrestrials so everyone could be well informed. As the movie goes on, we find out that the aliens have a goal. It's not really made clear, but I think that all the aliens wanted was a case of peach schnapps that Tim Robbins finds in his basement. Here is a little known fact about Tim Robbins: he has super human digging abilities. Most houses in the known universe have a solid foundation of concrete. This foundation is maybe one and a half to two feet thick. But some how Tim Robbins dug past this foundation and six feet into pure dirt with only a shovel from his basement. There are two explanations for this. 1) Tim Robbins obtains super-human powers -or- 2) Tim Robbins was raised by a pack of wild heavy construction equipment. The latter is more unlikely. So there is only way that this could have happened: Tim Robbins was in a freak solar flare accident on a space station and everyone on board was given super powers. It makes sense. Oh, something else bothered me about they movie. This one is towards the beginning when we first see the robots. It is mentioned that an EMP (Electro-Magnetic Pulse) is detonated and all things that use electricity are fried. This is shown through Tom Cruise checking all of his near by electronics. But for some strange reason, there is a man on the street with a video camera taping all the action. Unless this man was a crewmember of Tim Robbins, this is a mistake on Spielberg's part. Another thing that was bothersome is that we never see the best actor in the movie; we only hear his voice. Morgan Freeman is hands down one of the coolest people alive and should have been given a major part. One last thing about the actors, child protégé Dakota Fanning, all I have to say is that when she falls, she going to fall hard. Death To Smoochy's Rainbow Randolph hard. If you got that joke then I applaud you. As for now, I must wait until Hollywood pumps out more feces that they pass as entertainment before I become inspired enough to write something out of free will.
Gummibear 07-05-2005 04:37 PM
Tom Cruise is from Kentucky! I never knew that!
quote:
"You will either be a bum on the street, or an actor in Hollywood."

Your aunt is awesome! Big Grin Big Grin
Croix 07-05-2005 09:46 PM
I saw it earlier today, and I thought it was ok, though I do have a few gripes (some already mentioned)
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-that the tripods had been buried instead of crashing down. I think it would have been a bit more scary having the characters believe what is thought to be a meteorite suddenly start moving.
-the designs for the aliens. Somewhat hoping for more of a variant on the 50's film and I was a bit disappointed to see them without the three lense eye.
-kiling Tim Robbin's character did seem kinda pointless and unnecessary.
-Dakota Fanning's first mention of terrorists got a groan out of me.
-that they were able to take one down with rocket launchers, which took a little bit away from the "humanity is helpless" aspect
-that the EMP disabled every car within 25 miles, yet one guy is taking pictures with his digital camera, another using his camcorder, and how in the heck did those reporters get their footage of the lighting crashes if they were right next to it? Not only would the camera stop working, but wouldn't the tape recording it become de-magnitised and be unusable? (someone correct me if I'm wrong on this, cause I'm not sure if news camera's even use tape recorders anymore
Jonny Axehandle 07-05-2005 10:27 PM
quote:
but also because he tries to hide the fact that he is from Kentucky.


Please explain this to me.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000129/bio

He was born in Syracuse, New York and moved to over 15 different schools by the time he was 14. If your aunt taught him in grade school, it would have been before he was 14. So if he spent an average of less than a year per school year, he isn't "from" any of them. Not even Kentucky.

quote:
A moron at Sephiroth's school

spoiler (highlight to read):
The War of the Worlds: More like "The War of the Not-That-Greats".
By My currently anonymous friend

Sorry, but I'm not as good at word play as some of the newspapers are. Most of you who have not suffered major head trauma may remember a movie that came out at the end of June called War of the Worlds. This is a movie in which Aliens bury massive robots in the ground a million years ago so they could come back up now and try to destroy Tom Cruise. I guess the aliens were as sick and tired of all his publicity as I was. While these aliens are trying to make Cruise's life as miserable as possible (go aliens!), Tom must struggle to keep his family together. His son feels like he has to fight the aliens so Tom Cruise must use his fatherly knowledge of how the alien brain works to keep him from fighting. Good thing Tom completely grasps the concept of extra-terrestrials so everyone could be well informed. As the movie goes on, we find out that the aliens have a goal. It's not really made clear, but I think that all the aliens wanted was a case of peach schnapps that Tim Robbins finds in his basement. Here is a little known fact about Tim Robbins: he has super human digging abilities. Most houses in the known universe have a solid foundation of concrete. This foundation is maybe one and a half to two feet thick. But some how Tim Robbins dug past this foundation and six feet into pure dirt with only a shovel from his basement. There are two explanations for this. 1) Tim Robbins obtains super-human powers -or- 2) Tim Robbins was raised by a pack of wild heavy construction equipment. The latter is more unlikely. So there is only way that this could have happened: Tim Robbins was in a freak solar flare accident on a space station and everyone on board was given super powers. It makes sense. Oh, something else bothered me about they movie. This one is towards the beginning when we first see the robots. It is mentioned that an EMP (Electro-Magnetic Pulse) is detonated and all things that use electricity are fried. This is shown through Tom Cruise checking all of his near by electronics. But for some strange reason, there is a man on the street with a video camera taping all the action. Unless this man was a crewmember of Tim Robbins, this is a mistake on Spielberg's part. Another thing that was bothersome is that we never see the best actor in the movie; we only hear his voice. Morgan Freeman is hands down one of the coolest people alive and should have been given a major part. One last thing about the actors, child protégé Dakota Fanning, all I have to say is that when she falls, she going to fall hard. Death To Smoochy's Rainbow Randolph hard. If you got that joke then I applaud you. As for now, I must wait until Hollywood pumps out more feces that they pass as entertainment before I become inspired enough to write something out of free will.




Not only did that sound like it was utterly desperate to be funny, but it demonstrated just how talentless of a writer they are.

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About the Tim Robbins thing, he clearly explained that the tunnels were already built. And even if they weren't, no one said he dug through the foundation with a shovel. He could have used some other tools before Ray got there.


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Originally posted by Croix

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-that they were able to take one down with rocket launchers, which took a little bit away from the "humanity is helpless" aspect




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Their shields were malfunctioning after they began to die off.
Mike 07-06-2005 09:33 AM
It really seemed like that review that guy wrote was searching for things to dislike.
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Whoamygod! Tim Robbins dug a hole! That COMPLETELY wrecks the entire movie for me!


Yeah. Right.

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Like was said before, they only were able to take down the tripod because it was sick (they seem to be biomechanical like Evangelions) and had lost its shield. Even then, the rockets didn't destroy out outright but just knocked it down.

...and Morgan Freeman should have been walking down the street spewing lightning from his fingertips and singlehandedly saving the human race.
BethMcBeth 07-06-2005 11:58 AM
Personally i thought the movie was pretty good, I really like the effects and the plot ran pretty smooth. Defently a intense movie to see in the theatures with the sound system but its all good. I really loved the creatures! The only thing that I did not really like was the ending a bit I thought it was just too Holly Wood but it was still a good movie defently something I'd reccomend to see.

-Beth
Lupin IV 07-06-2005 03:49 PM
I thought that review was pretty horrible. The entire first part is practically a hate-letter to Tom Cruise. As far as reviews go, I loathe nothing more than biased ones. If he didn't like Cruises acting in this one movie, that would be ok to mention. But not something like 'Tom Cruise always sucked and he sucks in this one too.'
Sephiroth 07-06-2005 05:22 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Jonny Axehandle
quote:
but also because he tries to hide the fact that he is from Kentucky.


Please explain this to me.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000129/bio

He was born in Syracuse, New York and moved to over 15 different schools by the time he was 14. If your aunt taught him in grade school, it would have been before he was 14. So if he spent an average of less than a year per school year, he isn't "from" any of them. Not even Kentucky.

quote:
A moron at Sephiroth's school

spoiler (highlight to read):
The War of the Worlds: More like "The War of the Not-That-Greats".
By My currently anonymous friend

Sorry, but I'm not as good at word play as some of the newspapers are. Most of you who have not suffered major head trauma may remember a movie that came out at the end of June called War of the Worlds. This is a movie in which Aliens bury massive robots in the ground a million years ago so they could come back up now and try to destroy Tom Cruise. I guess the aliens were as sick and tired of all his publicity as I was. While these aliens are trying to make Cruise's life as miserable as possible (go aliens!), Tom must struggle to keep his family together. His son feels like he has to fight the aliens so Tom Cruise must use his fatherly knowledge of how the alien brain works to keep him from fighting. Good thing Tom completely grasps the concept of extra-terrestrials so everyone could be well informed. As the movie goes on, we find out that the aliens have a goal. It's not really made clear, but I think that all the aliens wanted was a case of peach schnapps that Tim Robbins finds in his basement. Here is a little known fact about Tim Robbins: he has super human digging abilities. Most houses in the known universe have a solid foundation of concrete. This foundation is maybe one and a half to two feet thick. But some how Tim Robbins dug past this foundation and six feet into pure dirt with only a shovel from his basement. There are two explanations for this. 1) Tim Robbins obtains super-human powers -or- 2) Tim Robbins was raised by a pack of wild heavy construction equipment. The latter is more unlikely. So there is only way that this could have happened: Tim Robbins was in a freak solar flare accident on a space station and everyone on board was given super powers. It makes sense. Oh, something else bothered me about they movie. This one is towards the beginning when we first see the robots. It is mentioned that an EMP (Electro-Magnetic Pulse) is detonated and all things that use electricity are fried. This is shown through Tom Cruise checking all of his near by electronics. But for some strange reason, there is a man on the street with a video camera taping all the action. Unless this man was a crewmember of Tim Robbins, this is a mistake on Spielberg's part. Another thing that was bothersome is that we never see the best actor in the movie; we only hear his voice. Morgan Freeman is hands down one of the coolest people alive and should have been given a major part. One last thing about the actors, child protégé Dakota Fanning, all I have to say is that when she falls, she going to fall hard. Death To Smoochy's Rainbow Randolph hard. If you got that joke then I applaud you. As for now, I must wait until Hollywood pumps out more feces that they pass as entertainment before I become inspired enough to write something out of free will.




Not only did that sound like it was utterly desperate to be funny, but it demonstrated just how talentless of a writer they are.


I would love to explain what I said about Tom Cruise's origin's to you. His family is from Kentucky, and to clarify that, by family I mean Grandparents, and bicariously parents. They live in this state currently. Does Mapother really sound like a name originating in New York to you? And yes, he did go in and out of schools, but he spent quite a lot of time here, and in fact up until his junior year in high school (in fact he attended MY HIGH SCHOOL), and preformed terribly in both acting and academics. He was also a royal pain in the a** to everyone, and treated everyone else like s***. I know, because I know quite a lot of people who were in his class.

Also, please lets not make assumption about my friends mental prowess. He is most definatly not a moron, nor is he talentless. You see, some people like to have opinions. Often they voice these in ways that other people don't like. I understand that you calling him a moron is also an opinion, but you do not know him, and therefore cannot justify that. Being that he did indeed experience the film, he has the ability to say what he thought about it. I'm sorry that you (and others) find his comments about Tim Robbins to be bothersome. However, it is quite odd that the aforementioned events took place, and are slightly humorous to point out. Lets not call him talent less either, or, for that matter, deperate to be funny. I'm not going to call you talent less or deperate to be funny, 1) because I do not know you well enough to judge that and 2) because it's slightly in poor taste. I never claimed it was the greatest piece of writing in the history of mankind, I merely said it was an article on it. In fact it is NOT A REVIEW, being that he wrote it inteding for it to be read several months after the film was released. So all the criticisms of its biased nature are all fruitless, as you missed the point. Let me restate, that it is his OPINION, on a film. He wrote it to be funny, and most likely, intended to be biased. I put it here because it was relevant, not because I want you all to agree with it.

Also, the first portion of the review is in no way a hate letter to Tom Cruise. The fact of the matter is, Tom Cruise HAS been in the media spot light too much recently, simply for being insane. The reason he pointed out that they were hunting down Tom Cruise, is because he is the main character in the movie, and therefore seems to be the focus of a great deal of the alien's rage. The extra-terristrial comment refers to Scientology, which if you know anything about, happens to have a great deal to do with aliens. I will admit, it was biased against Tom Cruise, but its not an all out attack on him as you interpreted it to be.

Now, I am done defending my friend's work, and you can all go about your business, watching the movie and what not.
Sharpshooter005 07-06-2005 07:25 PM
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-that they were able to take one down with rocket launchers, which took a little bit away from the "humanity is helpless" aspect


....STRIIIIIDERRRRRRRR!!

Oh comeon, at least ONE of you must have been thinking the same thing.

I still haven't seen the movie, and part of me is afraid I'd yell that while watching it.
Mike 07-06-2005 07:30 PM
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Originally posted by Sharpshooter005
quote:
spoiler (highlight to read):
-that they were able to take one down with rocket launchers, which took a little bit away from the "humanity is helpless" aspect


....STRIIIIIDERRRRRRRR!!

Oh comeon, at least ONE of you must have been thinking the same thing.


Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. But Tripods kick the crap out of Striders.