The Offical Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex/SAC: 2nd Gig Thread!

Ha ha! I quit watching this show so I was asleep! Score!

Violence warning for that? Really. They were just hinting, they really didn't show anything, ther then a few dead, skined, bodies from the back, and that dieing girl in the flash back. Just think, if they desided to pick up Hellsing, they would have those warnings for every episode! That is...if they didn't edit the crap out of it first ......

But I admit, a little sick, but it was good just the same. It didn't bug me that much though. Also gave a little background on Batou.....

Maybe I'm just over-sensitive but that was an extremely violent episode. I said that over at AS and they started saying all this crap about how I 'obviously didn't see the episode' (morons) but then I started thinking. Visually, it wasn't so bad. But phycologically it was terrible. Very very creepy. They did a good job with that. And the images were also very powerful; the video from the woman's point of view of the killer cutting her, the killer putting the cable in the woman's neck, Batou's memory of touching the killer's shoulder after cutting up someone and the blood on the guy's face as he turned around. Highly disturbing stuff. From a writing perpective, I'm very impressed.


muchlove
-dork

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Originally posted by Dork Maybe I'm just over-sensitive but that was an extremely violent episode. I said that over at AS and they started saying all this crap about how I 'obviously didn't see the episodes' but then I started thinking. Visually, it wasn't so bad. But phycologically it was terrible. Very very creepy. They did a good job with that. And the images were also very powerful; the video from the woman's point of view of the killer cutting her, the killer putting the cable in the woman's neck, Batou's memory of touching the killer's shoulder after cutting up someone and the blood on the guy's face as he turned around. Highly disturbing stuff. From a writing perpective, I'm very impressed. muchlove -dork

I know, phycologically maybe, but not so much on the visual like you said. But putting a violence warning on there just seemed a little odd, mainly because it sounded like there was going to be alot of blood, guns accualy hitting people, and killing (other then what the guy did). They should have just put a "This episode has images that may be disturbing to some viewers, veiwer dissgression is advised" But not a 'violence' warning. that was the point I was trying to get across.

But again, yes, it was a bit gross, and a little sadly disturbing at points. Like the flashback and the woman's point of view. And I'm glad that they are accualy only editing anime for the language now. But they should work on their warnings a bit.

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Very heavy on the dialogue but still, sort of, an interesting episode.

For almost 3 minutes towards the end..it just froze totally.

One frame just stayed on the screen, and the dialogue just cut out. I have no clue if that was just cablevision, or if CN got like that for everyone.

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Originally posted by Sharpshooter005 quote: Very heavy on the dialogue but still, sort of, an interesting episode. For almost 3 minutes towards the end..it just froze totally. One frame just stayed on the screen, and the dialogue just cut out. I have no clue if that was just cablevision, or if CN got like that for everyone.

Do you have a DVD recorder, or maybe TVio that you're running your cable through? My DVD recorder does all sorts of evil things to me. One of them is freezing up. Normally turning the DVD player off than back on will fix it but sometimes I have to unplug it (ugh).


muchlove
-dork

That episode was too graphic for me. I've seen plenty of gory/explicit/graphic things, but I had to change the channel when they started watching the video of the attack. The images wern't the most disturbing part for me either, it was just the sound of her screams that made me change it.

While the images wern't the worst part of it per say, it definitly deserved the warning at the beginning.

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Originally posted by IIMNY That episode was too graphic for me. I've seen plenty of gory/explicit/graphic things, but I had to change the channel when they started watching the video of the attack. The images wern't the most disturbing part for me either, it was just the sound of her screams that made me change it. While the images wern't the worst part of it per say, it definitly deserved the warning at the beginning.

If I'd seen that video I probably would have changed the channel, luckily I went to the bathroom about then. I still think the episode should have been given an MA rating. If the rating system is created to protect children shouldn't the censors consider also the phycological impact of an episode when they rate it?

I know I'm sounding a bit like an old crow here. But what if you had a kid, about 12 or so and you set your TV's V-chip for TV-14 and below, which is reasonable considering what a 12-year-old knows, and your kid saw this episode? I don't know, but I'm thinking that would suck.


muchlove
-dork

I havn't seen many episodes of this show so I don't know how much violence is "average" for this show, but I agree with you, episodes of shows like these need better individual ratings. Some episodes of Cowboy Bebop are tame where others are filled with guns and shooting. One description of an entire series is not enough. However this will most likely never happen due to how impractical it is.

hmmm, so this is the epsidoe that people where taking about over on AoD about what BBFC rating GITS:SAC would get

Wow. That's all I can really say to this episode. When the warning came up I immediatly reached for my Anime Insider with the GITS: SAC episode guide. After reading the summery, I thought 'Why a warning for this episode?' I watcehd it.

This had to be the most tramatic episode of any anime I'd ever seen. The sheer fact that the Killer stripped his victims of their skin was disturbing enough. The tapes, were the really tramatizing thing. The screams of the victims were just... >.<

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The images wern't the most disturbing part for me either, it was just the sound of her screams that made me change it.

My sentiments exactly. Except I didn't change it. I think having watched the whole thing made it worse, because you knew what happened. You're so very 'clued in' that it made it worse knowing he kept doing the exact same thing.

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I know I'm sounding a bit like an old crow here. But what if you had a kid, about 12 or so and you set your TV's V-chip for TV-14 and below, which is reasonable considering what a 12-year-old knows, and your kid saw this episode? I don't know, but I'm thinking that would suck.

I know many 12-14 year old who watch GITS: SAC, and I highly agree that this episode was...unsuitable for them. Swearing aside (which I thought there to be more of), the content was enough to give nightmares to anyone, not matter what age.

I had no problem with the ep, and I liked the Batou backstory and the interaction with Togusa.

Ah, well, maybe I got desensitized. Oh well.

Well I didn't have any problems either, however the situation was very disturbing, espically the forced POV mode stuff. It is one thing to see that through your own eyes, but to see it from that perspective would totally freak me out.

Does anyone know the names of the opening and ending songs? I'm thinking of buying a Ghost in the Shell cd.


muchlove
-dork

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclop...nime.php?id=910

"Inner Universe" by Origa (eps 1-26)
"Lithium Flower" by Scott Matthew (eps 1-26

Thanks, IanC.

First off this still is the same cartoon network with powerpuff girls and dexters lab so of course they're going to warn us, and I was pumped expecting some hardcore fights or something of that nature.......

I have to say the idea of the murder was kind of sick, but it didn't really get to me.

I thought this was an interesting episdoe from a batou (sp?) character development standpoint.

Oh and just one clarifcation: What exactly was the point of the operation sunshine or whatever? Why skin the shape of a t-shirt? Were they going to blame it on the opposition or what?

Oh and American Empire... ?

I don't care what people say, I still like this show.

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The voiceover fades into the present as Batou explains to Togusa that Project Sunset was designed to demoralized enemy populations. The U.S. Army would befriend local innocents and then massacre them in the most horrible way possible in an attempt to break the will of the enemy military.

Hmm you'd think the CIA would come up with something better than skinning women and children alive......

I barely noticed the warning while I was fast forwarding through the commercials. I'm glad I did. My nephew was around and he had watched a little bit of FMA with me but then I saw a few seconds of it and turned it right off. Took out the tape and put on cartoons. Still had to be careful because he kept walking into the other room.

Anyway, this episode graphically and story-wise didn't really bother me. I've watched a lot of things about serial murders, read books on the subject, etc. But as a GitS ep, this one was very well written. Heavy on the dialog but it was a good story. Interesting to see some more about Batou and his past.

Still not sure I really like the show but it does have some good points. And I don't hate it. Just not my favorite.

BabyGhia

Tonight's episode was an altered version of the very first chapter of the manga.

It was really really good!

Synopsis: Togusa plays narc as he spies out "St. Mary's Home for Incontinent Children", and then gets whacked in the head and draws a lovely picture of the LM's icon. Yay.

At the end of the chapter, Togusa got a big demotion, but fortunately for him in the anime that doesn't seem to have been the case.

Finally we see the real Laughing Man and...he's a bishy boy. Well, every anime needs one, and finally the LM's sologan makes sense. Up till this episode, Togusa was the closest thing to the much loved bishy character type.

Geh, Catcher in the Rye. I had to read many books for many english classes. In each class, there was one book that I had to force myself to finish. "The Catcher in the Rye" was one of those books. Now I need to remember bits of it to make sense of great anime. That teacher has somehow worked fate to bring this down on me!

On a different note, I was wondering if Togusa had been brain-hacked ever since he got there. Also noticed a lot of vice actors from other Bandai shows among the kids, and I was wondering if Aoi was being voiced by Steven Blum.