The Offical Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex/SAC: 2nd Gig Thread!

Methinks that virtual encounter with Kuze threw her off her game, why I don't know.

That line of his about how she'd be "miserable" if she entered his brain made me wonder if it was some sort of virus thing, or if it was just some onslaught of traumatic imagery and concepts that threw her off.

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Originally posted by Sharpshooter005 That line of his about how she'd be "miserable" if she entered his brain made me wonder if it was some sort of virus thing, or if it was just some onslaught of traumatic imagery and concepts that threw her off.

A little bit of both there, Sharpie. When she came back to conscience, I think that a virus attacked her defense systems and also, she said that she 'knew' Kuze. Interesting and if what Raven said is true, then that means she's catching on...

Also, besides that yeah, this was one helluva an episode. Those rookies looked shady to me though the whole episode and I knew something was going to happen to one of them. But I didn't expect that. Anyway, it looks like Goda and Kuze aren't working together. Damn, that who I thought Goda was talking about when he was talking about his 'hero' that he was going to direct.

Yeah, the Major got screwed with hard by Kuze and they were ambushed and not even in the same country as Kuze. To hear the Major screwed up on a mission was weird enough, but to hear her say sorry was just so unexpected. Damn good episode nonetheless.
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New ep last night.

My opinion on this season is beginning to turn negative. It just feels... not as good as the first season.

Nevertheless, this ep revealed a plan by Kuze to declare independence for the refugees. And like Okonkwo would say, Things Fall Apart.

Last night's episode was manga reference extravaganza episode. You got the blue skinned russion androgyn, the goofy lookin' eyebrow guy, Coil, and the hacker with the robot babes.

I really liked this episode. Damn, that's how you end an episode! And I'm really exicted to see what happens between Kuze and Batou.

Also, real slick with the unknown funds that Kuze jacks from people. He's got over 10 billion dollars and no one even knows about it.

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Last night's episode was manga reference extravaganza episode

Um, I didn't know that. But this does explain where they got the idea of having that strange android in the first place. Yeah, I didn't like him.
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Originally posted by Nine XXVI quote: Last night's episode was manga reference extravaganza episode Um, I didn't know that. But this does explain where they got the idea of having that strange android in the first place. Yeah, I didn't like him. Peace.

Yeah, check it out:
The cyborg who picked up the plutonium:


And here's the funny eyebrow guy and the hacker all in one page!
http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gits4pf.jpg

Wow, awesome episode. I thought last weeks would be the best I'd see for a while, and I was proven wrong. Great action, and it seems the story is finally beginning to really pick up. I'm interested to see where Kuze decides to go from here. I also wonder who was behind all of those remote controlled corpses.

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Originally posted by Raven Wow, awesome episode. I thought last weeks would be the best I'd see for a while, and I was proven wrong. Great action, and it seems the story is finally beginning to really pick up. I'm interested to see where Kuze decides to go from here. I also wonder who was behind all of those remote controlled corpses.

Whoever it is they are likely doing so at Gota's design, weither they know it or not.
BTW I just fully realised this tonight. The VA for Kuse is no stranger to playing the revolutionary role. He has also voiced the character of Zeon ace pilot Anavel Gato from Gundam 0083.

Speaking of Gota, I wonder if those weird looking big guys he had with him in the other episode are the ones causing all the people's brains to fry? Oh and Kuse kicking Batou's ass was just cool.

Kuze sort of had the upper hand by turning pain off.

I guess we're not getting an Ishikawa backstory now.

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Originally posted by Jstar136 I guess we're not getting an Ishikawa backstory now.

Well, Ishikawa did survive that which is a good thing. I was a bit worried there for a second, I thought they might have actually killed him off. I was cheering him on silently though to jump off that damn helicopter.

When the little dude jumped on, and then exploded himself, my eyes bugged out, and I just sat there.

Seriously, Ishikawa's a badass, I hope they do another (albeit, longer) timejump of a few months so he's back in action.

That was a very good episode. Cool to see Kuze and Batou go at it, although Batou got torn a new one. So Kuze got bootleg plutonium and Goda seems to be running everyone wild through his little game of his. The plot is pretty damn eleborate but I'm still kind of in the dark as to what Goda is trying to do.

But hell, I'm not as in the dark as Nagaski was at the end of the episode. That was a nice little twist and its interesting seeing Nagaski in the future after watching all time in the past in Samurai Champloo. But yeah, wondering who did that to a major city since Kuze didn't and wasn't responible for it.

And yeah, damn that kid for taking out Ishikawa and the plane. Didn't see that coming at all and that was definetly a good twist that I didn't expect would come from anywhere. I even forgot that the kid was wired in the first place and without the nukes, what will ol' boy Kuze do know. Damn the plot is thicking!
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It's about time Section 9 got their butt handed to them in a big way. They deserve it for always being so arrogant. If they went against more competant villains like Kuze and Goda more often, the series would be more realistic. This is one of the few series where the good guys really get on my nerves.

Anyways, if the pacing was stronger like this throughout, this might have been the best interpretation of GITS. As it is, I don't know. It's good, but not anything great--kinda like the rest of GITS, IMO.

Did anybody else watch the latest episode of Ghost in the Shell? Because the conversation of Batou and Goda kind of flew right over my head, like most of the dialouge in this serious does. But when they were talking, I kept finding myself watching the birds. Nice symbolism for Kuze, who was barely in this episode and that was a nice touch as well.

Also, did Goda admit that he's behind (if he is at all. I want to say I know that he is but with this show, I can never be sure) the Indidivual Eleven and Kuze as well? And what the hell did he mean by using a vaccine for the Eleven virus that he'd use virginity and that he's one myself?

It was a very good episode but damn it all, I'm just wondering about what's up and the plot is rather thicking which is good because the series is getting better and better.
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I keep either missing these, or only being able to watch half before something comes up. Usually though it's the "individual" episodes I seem to miss, so yeah.

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It's about time Section 9 got their butt handed to them in a big way. They deserve it for always being so arrogant. If they went against more competant villains like Kuze and Goda more often, the series would be more realistic. This is one of the few series where the good guys really get on my nerves.

I don't know..if they kept constantly going up against supervillain calibur terrorists with meticulous plans, endless contingency plans, and impeccable luck, it might get too much like 24...and...I love 24, but there only needs to be one.

Also I've consistently loved it whenever Section 9 comes off as...questionable in some regard. It'd be easy to have them as stoic, incorruptible, cyborg eliot ness types, but it's alot more interesting having them shown as just ruthlessly efficient (and even then, prone to screwing stuff up) considering...yeah. They're supposed to be a somewhat shadowy group of antiterrorists called in during fairly extreme situations, so it's understandable that you wouldn't staff an organization like that with the care bears.

Anyway...can't wait until they begin repeating some of these (I mean..aside from 3 am or so)

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Originally posted by Nine XXVI And what the hell did he mean by using a vaccine for the Eleven virus that he'd use virginity and that he's one myself?

Gouda pretty much admitted it. The "individual eleven essay" is actually a virus that makes people try to kill themselves, however, it only opens/has effect if the person wasn't a virgin before they got a prosthetic body. So therefore, the Major, who was cyberized as a young child is probably immune. Someone like Togusa (aka Mr. Family Man) would be pretty f***ed. And obviously Boma had some action before being cyberized.
So they're saying that Kuze was a virgin before he was cyberized.

Of course, my response to all that was "Heh heh, Gouda's such a loser he can't even get a date..."

Wait... how do we know it only pertains to virginity prior to becoming cyberized? Wouldn't it affect someone if they lost if after becoming cyberized as well? I mean, I doubt that there'd be any difference in the body of a cyberized virgin and a cyberized non-virgin. The only difference ever present in males is simply knowing that you've had intercourse, and I doubt that there would be "cyber-hymen" installed into cyberized females. So, if the only difference was mental, how would it differentiate between someone who lost their virginity prior to cyberization, and after?

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Originally posted by Ano Hito quote: Originally posted by Nine XXVI And what the hell did he mean by using a vaccine for the Eleven virus that he'd use virginity and that he's one myself? Gouda pretty much admitted it. The "individual eleven essay" is actually a virus that makes people try to kill themselves, however, it only opens/has effect if the person wasn't a virgin before they got a prosthetic body. So therefore, the Major, who was cyberized as a young child is probably immune. Someone like Togusa (aka Mr. Family Man) would be pretty f***ed. And obviously Boma had some action before being cyberized. So they're saying that Kuze was a virgin before he was cyberized. Of course, my response to all that was "Heh heh, Gouda's such a loser he can't even get a date..."

Oh, I knew about the Individual Eleven virus. It's just that I thought he was referring to something else when he said he'd used virginity for a vaccine factor. I was thinking along the lines of virginity as in the use of a prosthetic body not as in the actual virginity to sex and intercourse. So it seems that Kuze and Motoko are immune, and along those lines, go Boma.

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Wait... how do we know it only pertains to virginity prior to becoming cyberized? Wouldn't it affect someone if they lost if after becoming cyberized as well? I mean, I doubt that there'd be any difference in the body of a cyberized virgin and a cyberized non-virgin. The only difference ever present in males is simply knowing that you've had intercourse, and I doubt that there would be "cyber-hymen" installed into cyberized females. So, if the only difference was mental, how would it differentiate between someone who lost their virginity prior to cyberization, and after?

That's a very good point as well, Hobodoken. Goda said that the vaccine would have to include virginity but he never went into full detail as to what that means as far as time dealing with a cyber or non-cyber goes. One thing I do know is that Kuze was once a common piece in Goda's game, and at most, an X-Factor. But now, Kuze strayed away from the script and Batou made the point of it seems like Goda is now Kuze's copycat and that compared to the Laughing Man, he's second rate. Man, ol' boy tore him a new one. Also, is the CIS trying to get into a full frontal war with the refugees? It seems like they are but we never really get any info on them and the are never shown so I'm just wondering. Also, I couldn't imagine that people would still be persisent on going to war in a world that went through four world wars. But hell, what do I know, I don't even have a prosectic body.
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