The Offical Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex/SAC: 2nd Gig Thread!

I can make low quality manga images for those who want them.

I'd scan it and make them high quality, but then I'd break the binding. So it's digital pictures like the one above for now.

Don't know why I didn't think of it sooner but the phrase "I thought I'd pretend I was one of those deaf mutes" is exactly what the kid was doing at the children's facility. Wonder why they didn't have Togusa point that out.

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Originally posted by Ano Hito Poor Togusa. Every time something Laughing Man related pops up, he always winds up in a pool of his own blood. You'd think he'd have learned his lesson from last time...

You are so right! What really appalled me was how at the end of the episode, that no one on the street offered to help him or even surreptiously call the police! Is that what is in our future as human beings, that we will become so apathetic or terrified that we won't want to help a fellow human being?

He's not a real person, and yet I find myself yelling "Togusa!" at the TV when he gets hurt. His wife is such a cutie. She may very well have accepted this part of his life when she married him, but if I were she, I would beg him to quit Section 9.

I like that Togusa is the driving force in the laughing man case.

He is the underdog that you like to root for. He isn' overpowered by robotic bodies like the Major and Batou, and he actually has a family back at home..

Plus this laughing man storyline sounds like its just going to get even more interesting.

In the manga, the Major says something to Togusa when he's in the hospital to the effect of, "the sooner you die, the sooner your wife can get over you and find a new man." How cruel. Then Togusa makes a face like "The Scream". I hope they keep that scene in the anime, but they probably won't.

OMG tonights episode was INSANE. Remind me never EVER piss off the major.

Yeah I know what you mean... Though I thought for a moment she was going to be put out of commission for quite a while. I must also say, the Laughing Man parts kicked ass.

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Originally posted by octane2079 OMG tonights episode was INSANE. Remind me never EVER piss off the major.

Really. She pulled a Sarah Conner from T2 on that armored suit.
My heart was pounding too when she took those shattering blows. Apperently she needs to have some repairs done that are a focus point of the next episode.

Above all in the complex is the confirmation of the fact that the kid Togusa met in the institution was in fact the laughing man.

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Originally posted by octane2079 OMG tonights episode was INSANE. Remind me never EVER piss off the major.

She was super f***ing pisssed. Although that whole scene with the robot/major/batou in a big room and the snipers closing in reminded me alot of the GitS movie.

Apperantly section 9 is filled with military cyborgs reassigned to civillian police work.

So apprearantly the laughing man wants to expose the fact that the medical dudes covered up the effective cb sclerosis treatment in order to make money off micromachines which didnt work at the time.

Yeah, the cyborg scene totally recalled the second to last scene of the first movie, as did that other scene in the second epsiode.

At first I thought the major have her head crushed by the cyborg and that they'd have to use some kind of back up memory of her. ("There goes another one...go fetch another Major out of the closet!")

I was wondering though, did she lose her cool because
1. she had a close brush with death
2. recognized the guy from Togusa's memories
or 3. both?

It made me sad they didn't have the silly bantering with the hospitalized Togusa that they did in the manga. Oh well. In the mange especially Togusa is always insulted and mocked by Batou and the Major. Poor guy.

Since Aoi is the Laughing Man, the main "antagonist" of the series, and he's been revealed to not be so bad after all, I assume the guy who continnually called Irakarusu (spelling?) a fool all the time will become the "bad guy".

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Originally posted by Ano Hito I was wondering though, did she lose her cool because 1. she had a close brush with death 2. recognized the guy from Togusa's memories or 3. both?

I read a director's commentary on that episode. He says she's mad because she downloaded togusa's emotions. We saw batou affected by that in the ist part of the episode, but motoko kept her cool. The assualt broke her usual lack of emotion.

On a side note, it looks like the robot was borrowed from Appleseed, anoither story by Masamune Shirow.

Another note: I like the increase in action. It reminds me of parts out of both movies.

Does that mean Togusa would have done the same thing in her place, or that Motoko had a lingering feeling that it had been done to her?

EDIT: Also, where can I find the commentaries online?

I think that was a warning to never piss off the Major. Ack! And those scenes did remind me very much of the first movie.

Interesting to see that Aoi just wanted to expose the treatment and that everything else done in the Laughing Man's name was done by others. Adds an interesting twist. Section 9 is going to have all these mysteries to unravel to get to the final truth about the Laughing Man.

Glad I sticked with the series. The ending seems like it going to be rather good. And I like the dynamics of Section 9.

BabyGhia

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Originally posted by BabyGhia I think that was a warning to never piss off the Major. Ack! And those scenes did remind me very much of the first movie.

It was ripped straight from the movie, hell i thought the Major was gonna try to rip the friggin robot apart

oh yea i forgot....


BOOB SHOT!

That scene, where she just keeps firing while the guy yells for mercy?

Yeah, my friend and I have been making reference to it almost all week. Lets face it, that was badass.

I actually went to the librairy and read Catcher in the Rye. It's about a teenager who sees the world of adults as phony and false, and is dissatisfied with his life in a prep school, and so runs away. He has numerous adventures, including getting his ass kicked by an elevator operator, and being mugged by a prostitute named Sunny. His idealized world is that of children frolicing and playing while he saves them from falling off of cliffs. In the end he cries and goes to a psycho ward.

The famous line comes in the middle where Holden (main character) contemplates pretending to be a deaf mute so people will stop saying annoying things to him.

Interpret as you wish.

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Originally posted by Barrin quote: Originally posted by Ano Hito I was wondering though, did she lose her cool because 1. she had a close brush with death 2. recognized the guy from Togusa's memories or 3. both? I read a director's commentary on that episode. He says she's mad because she downloaded togusa's emotions. We saw batou affected by that in the ist part of the episode, but motoko kept her cool. The assualt broke her usual lack of emotion. On a side note, it looks like the robot was borrowed from Appleseed, anoither story by Masamune Shirow. Another note: I like the increase in action. It reminds me of parts out of both movies.

I was also reminded during the crushing scene of the sequence they show in the beginning of Major crushing the doll. Here we saw her getting crushed, this time deliberately by someone else.

this week, the show finally impressed me

most of the time, the characters have been so flat, almost stereotypically super tough, nothing important but business
escept for togusa
he is the only one who seems like a real person (aside from him being the most organic)
once or twice, batou almost got out of that a little
but never the major
i was beginning to hate her
she was so one-sided it was boring
plus, she got rid of the tachikomas(which i thought were fascinating)
i was glad to see she was finally in some real danger, and she flipped out when that evil sucker tried to smash her
under most circumstances, she would have stuck with her job title, disconnected his cyberbrain or somethign like that, and arrested him
but she wanted to make him suffer
she was livid
i hope it continues

Tonight's episode:

We get to see the lesser known Section 9 members get some action, Aramaki get duped, and Motoko face some danger, as well as more of Aoi, the Laughing Man. Now we have two section nine members in the hospital, and I have no idea where the hell this is going because we seem to not have a villain or goal of the series, other than the fellows that were following the dude who committed suicide partially.

I'm so confused...

By the by, a Trekkie friend has informed me that "Laughing Boy" is the fan given nickname to Will Riker. Hmmm...

It appears to me that the "bad guys" in all of this are now the people involved in the micromachines scam which means it goes throughout the government and the businesses that have been established to create them. These people (and we don't seem to know their upper echelon) have a real motivation to maintain the status quo considering that since they weren't involved with Prof. Morai (the guy who created the vaccine), they stand to lose their "trillion-yen" profits.