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Originally posted by Zopwx2
I don't claim to know alot about starwars but does it seem to anyone else that they are cramming too much history in too short a time?
People act like jedis are just myths in A new hope but we know they were all over the place like 20 years ago. (assuming luke is born at the end of sith)
Or that this whole clone war bussiness came up and went way too fast.
The originals didnt really have a super heavy plott: Good Guys vs Evil Empire.
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Thats the thing....in the Star Wars original trilogy, there are no Jedi and the galaxy has been ruled by a malevolent empire. The "Golden Age" of greatness was a time when the Jedi did exist and were a noble order of knights, so to speak. They are, to some extent, mythological because they dont exist, they've been wiped out. Those that do remember the Jedi remember them as trustworthy, upstanding, and talented. Remember, the Jedi WERE juggernauts on the battlefield. They did hold wisdom and knowledge that the people appreciated and looked up to for guidance. They were the "Knights of the Round Table" of their galaxy.
The viewers know that the Jedi existed 20 years ago, the galaxy of Star Wars only knows of stories that happened "years ago" or 20 years ago. They havent seen a Jedi, but they know that a Jedi is this spectacularly impressive individual. Remember, only 4 force users exist in the galaxy in the original trilogy: The Emperor, Darth Vader, Yoda, and Obi-Wan Kenobi. And only 2 actually "exist"...Obi-Wan and Yoda are in hiding. And who actually has daily contact with the Emperor and Vader other than the Imperial Army and Navy? The galaxy inhabitants only really deal with the Stormtroopers and thus, they dont know what this mystical force is or the ones that use it, the Jedi.
The hard part about the movies is this: the storyline is very continuous and meshes well from movie to movie. But the viewer has to be aware of the years that do indeed pass between them. Remember, its 20 years between Revenge of the Sith and A New Hope. Its 5 years between Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith (I believe, but am not quite sure). And its almost 10 years between The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones. You're forgetting that the Clone Wars is a long war that at the end of has
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Lucas is cramming a lot of history into 6 movies, but its enough history to keep the series fresh and intriguing. We met Anakin when he was 8-10 years old in Phantom Menace...then in Attack of the Clones, he's 18-20, and then at the end of Revenge of the Sith he's around 25-27 or so. So, the first three movies take place over a 15 year period, and the Clone Wars are the majority of that period. So the Clone Wars is a long event that is prevalent in the Star Wars universe. As seen by Luke's reaction when Obi-Wan mentions he fought in them during A New Hope.
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| Just a presumption, but maybe the outer worlds, such as Tatooine, don't know much about Jedi or the Clone Wars because they are so far from the center of attention? |
This is a very good presumption. Remember, the heart of the Empire and Old Republic is Coruscant, said to be the "center of existence". The Jedi Temple was there, the Galactic Senate, the Emperor's residence, etc. etc. The rest of the "Inner Rim" worlds are close to the center, and they are more aware of the history of the Jedi and galaxy. Remember, Bespin (Cloud City) from Empire Strikes Back is way out in the Outer Rim, as is Hoth, Endor, Tatooine, etc. etc. These places are so far removed from Coruscant and the Inner Rim that they are pretty much outpost planets that govern themselves. These worlds are independent of the grip of the Empire, to some extent. After Han was frozen in carbonite, Lando Calrissian mentioned that the deal was being altered, and Vader mentioned leaving a garrison behind. Calrissian already realizes his facility is an outpost (explained during his conversation with Han, Leia, Chewie, etc. as Lando leads them to the dining hall wear Vader and Boba Fett ambush them), independent of the Empire. He wants to keep it that way, and thus does not fight or argue with Vader over the specifics of him handing over Han to the Empire.
Long winded, I know...but thats a basic explanation behind things...The Inner Rim is more enchanted with the history and the legacy of the Jedi. The Outer Rim is like the lawless west of the United States during the 1800's, its largely just a "territory" that the Empire possesses, but there isnt any governance going on out there.
I think Revenge of the Sith will make the first 2 prequel movies make sense. Wait for it to come out and then analyze it and it should make sense.