Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith *warning, may contain spoilers*

It rocked. That's all there is to say.

Well, I can say a little more. Natalie Portman's performance was weak. You can blame it on bad dialog but the job of an actor is to act and she said every line the same way. I felt that Christensen improved a hell of a lot for this movie. I actually almost respect him now.

As for Grievous, I had never heard of him before the movie, having missed most of Clone Wars and remained spoiler free until I was sitting in the theater. I think he had a good part. Sure he was an awesome character and it would be cool if we could have seen him done more. Its the same as Boba Fett from the OT.

The movie was absolutely overwhelming for me. I saw it yesterday and I'm still playing it back in my head. I'm gonna have to see it again before I say anything negative, IF there is anything negative to say.

Everyone goes into these movies with super-high expectations. I try to pretend like I've never heard of Star Wars before. This is why I like TPM (because it is a good movie at its core) and why I disliked AOTC (it's just boring, and pointless now that ROTS practically repeated everything that happened in that movie). Besides, do you really want the new trilogy to be better than the old one?

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Originally posted by Jim Starluck My favorite part was the very end...seeing Anakin slowly slide towards the lava almost made me squirm, and the way they had Padme giving birth/dying at the same time Vader was being reborn was...creepy.

That was a poweful scene. I'm sure it was Lucas' way of illustrating the Anakin & Padme tragedy. As we watch Padme die in childbirth, we watch Anakin die too.

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Originally posted by Darth Nat Grievous was my major disappointment. I was expecting the guy to be cool. Instead, he was practically coughing up a lung for the first part of the movie, and then he systematically loses his limbs in an underwhelming battle with Obi-Wan.

Amen, brother. movie Grievous (not to be confused with cartoon Grievous) was a major disappointment. This is the one enemy the Jedi fear, at least until Darth Vader is born. Instead they're calling him a coward and disarming him in duels.
General Grievous should have been introduced in "Attack of the Clones." Can you picture him leading the Droid army against the Jedi and Clone army in a "Braveheart" style melee?

In official Star Wars history, Grievous actually was at the battle of Geonosis. I don't know if he lead the droids into combat, or if he was overseeing the battle from a trade federation ship in space or where-ever.


We just don't see him.

Yeah, he did a bunch of killing in the basement. Too bad we didn't see it. Also, too bad they came up with the character after episode 2 was released.

i know! that'd be soooo cool, seeing Grevious, who looks kind of like a souped up droid, leading the droids in a braveheart style charge. yeah, i'd have to say Grevious did not do as much ass-kicking as i expected, remove coughing and wheezing, and add either more arms, or more cool fight scenes, or at least Grevious taking out a few clones.

I saw ROTS just yesterday.

I cried.

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There was one scene in that movie that moved me to tears. The ending scene of baby Luke going to Tatooine and the twin suns setting in the sky. I think it was the nostalgia that was getting to me.

It was diffenately better than the past two movies. I loved how ROTS actually made you feel an emotional connection to the characters which was something I felt was lacking in the past two prequels. I did have my doubts about Hayden Christensen's acting ability at first but I found that once he began to transition into the darkside he fit the bill just fine. Padme actually didn't bother me as much as I thought she would but I wish she had gotten better lines.

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"Ani hold me like you did by the lake at Naboo"

sort of made me wince. There were quite a few lines I would have liked to re-write.

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The infamous " NOOOOOOOO" scene sort of made me giggle because Darth Vader sounded like such a teen! " Is Padme, alright?"-not something Vader should say- I would have changed that to " Padme..tell me where she is." or something of that nature and I don't think Vader would have ever done a long dramatic " NOOOOOO!" either.

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My father thought the Order 66/ Youngling slaughter was a little bit too much. He thought that it was almost too heavy. I agree.

Here's my review of Ep. III:

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YOU'RE ALL MORONS!!! ARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!

I still liked it, though.

Everyone is complaining about the "NOOOO!" scene but you have to remember that it isnt Darth Vader (the one we know from episode IV) speaking, it's still a bit of Ep III's Anakin. Admittedly, it was a little funny, but I still think it makes sense.

I liked the "nooo!" scene.


It really showed how heartbroken Anakin was, after trying SO hard to keep her from dying, but failing anyway. And all though the line "Where is Padme'? Is she safe?" doesn't really fit Darth Vader, it does sound something like Hayden would say, so imo it works well. Now, he has no wife, no children, he is deformed for life. The only person he has left is Palpatine, other than his new empire.

I saw the film this afternoon and, I must say, I was very much taken aback. After hearing a myriad of cons surrounding the film, I took my seat with little expectations and loved it in the end.

The deep, but not too corny, character development was a very welcome addition. The romance between Anakin and Padme wasn't as saccharine as I originally anticipated; in fact, I enjoyed it. My personal favorite characters were Obi Wan and Yoda; they shined as heroes by putting up quite a fight following the collapse of the Jedi Council.

There were numerous cons, but one in particular that I must nitpick about is the schmaltzy battle droid dialogue shortly following the preamble; it was cringe inducing.

To conclude, it's, by far, the most epic of the prequel trilogy and certainly the darkest in the entire series. I award Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith a rating of seven out of ten.

That reminds me of one thing I couldn't help but think about when the movie was over.


Whhhy do ALL the super/battle droids have really squeaky voices? Like their noses are completely stuffed.

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Originally posted by Lupin IV I liked the "nooo!" scene. It really showed how heartbroken Anakin was, after trying SO hard to keep her from dying, but failing anyway. And all though the line "Where is Padme'? Is she safe?" doesn't really fit Darth Vader, it does sound something like Hayden would say, so imo it works well. Now, he has no wife, no children, he is deformed for life. The only person he has left is Palpatine, other than his new empire.

Darth Vader's loyalty is based on Sith doctrine. They eventually kill their masters and take their place. When Padme confronts Anakin, he pledges to kill Palpatine so they can rule the universe together. In episodes V and VI, he tries to convince his son Luke to join the Dark Side so they can kill Palpatine.

Anakin admired Palpatine once. But now, with Padme dead and himself trapped inside armor, despises him. Darth Vader is just enforcing the law while biding his time to strike.

I liked the new Battle Droids' voices. At least they said more than Roger Roger.

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Originally posted by Mr. Peabody quote: Originally posted by Lupin IV I liked the "nooo!" scene. It really showed how heartbroken Anakin was, after trying SO hard to keep her from dying, but failing anyway. And all though the line "Where is Padme'? Is she safe?" doesn't really fit Darth Vader, it does sound something like Hayden would say, so imo it works well. Now, he has no wife, no children, he is deformed for life. The only person he has left is Palpatine, other than his new empire. Darth Vader's loyalty is based on Sith doctrine. They eventually kill their masters and take their place. When Padme confronts Anakin, he pledges to kill Palpatine so they can rule the universe together. In episodes V and VI, he tries to convince his son Luke to join the Dark Side so they can kill Palpatine. Anakin admired Palpatine once. But now, with Padme dead and himself trapped inside armor, despises him. Darth Vader is just enforcing the law while biding his time to strike.

I don't think Vader despised Palpatine, but the basis of the dark side is selfishness, and so it would be natural to try to seize power. Vader would have to be aware of what happened to the previous apprentices, and know that Palpatine would betray him, as he eventually does. Palpatine, for his part, understands that Vader has the power to overthrough him, but that Vader seems incapable of doing so alone. That's where the whole business of Luke comes in: Palpatine knows that Luke must either become his new apprentice or be killed, lest father and son join to destroy him.

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Originally posted by TanookiJoe I don't think Vader despised Palpatine, but the basis of the dark side is selfishness, and so it would be natural to try to seize power. Vader would have to be aware of what happened to the previous apprentices, and know that Palpatine would betray him, as he eventually does. Palpatine, for his part, understands that Vader has the power to overthrough him, but that Vader seems incapable of doing so alone. That's where the whole business of Luke comes in: Palpatine knows that Luke must either become his new apprentice or be killed, lest father and son join to destroy him.

Darth Vader doesn't think he's incapable of killing Palpatine alone, he just knows he has one chance to carry it out. Discovering that he has a son provides that chance. Now that I mention it, I just remembered that in the prequels Jedi know well enough not to attack a Sith Lord individually. Anakin learned that the hard way against Count Dooku.

By Episode VI, Palpatine is aware of Vader's scheme, and wants Luke to replace his father. Aboard the second Death Star, both Palpatine and Vader try to get Luke to turn to the Dark Side for their own purposes. But in the end, Anakin kills Palpatine himself, not to seize power, but to save his son.

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Originally posted by Mr. Peabody quote: Originally posted by TanookiJoe I don't think Vader despised Palpatine, but the basis of the dark side is selfishness, and so it would be natural to try to seize power. Vader would have to be aware of what happened to the previous apprentices, and know that Palpatine would betray him, as he eventually does. Palpatine, for his part, understands that Vader has the power to overthrough him, but that Vader seems incapable of doing so alone. That's where the whole business of Luke comes in: Palpatine knows that Luke must either become his new apprentice or be killed, lest father and son join to destroy him. Darth Vader doesn't think he's incapable of killing Palpatine alone, he just knows he has one chance to carry it out. Discovering that he has a son provides that chance. Now that I mention it, I just remembered that in the prequels Jedi know well enough not to attack a Sith Lord individually. Anakin learned that the hard way against Count Dooku. By Episode VI, Palpatine is aware of Vader's scheme, and wants Luke to replace his father. Aboard the second Death Star, both Palpatine and Vader try to get Luke to turn to the Dark Side for their own purposes. But in the end, Anakin kills Palpatine himself, not to seize power, but to save his son.

I think your analysis is spot on! I have a soft spot for the whole father-son thing even if at the begining Vader only wanted to use Luke to overthrow Palpatine I still think he was pretty giddy, in his own special way, that his son and daughter were still alive ( I mean Luke and Leia are the closest people he had to Padme). I like to believe that part of the reason Vader wanted to recruit Luke as an ally was so that Palpatine wouldn't kill him. Another thing that I thought was pretty awesome was

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the possibility that Palpatine my have been Anakin's father. That would mean Palpatine was Luke's grandpappy!

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the possibility that Palpatine my have been Anakin's father. That would mean Palpatine was Luke's grandpappy!

??? A little confused with that one...

I dont believe Darth Vader can overthrow Palpatine without at least someone waiting in the wings for companionship. Remember Darth Vader, before he turned, had fear of abandonment issues, and an attachment "complex". He was a slave at first, the possibility of changing owners and becoming alone mustve been tough, as well as losing contact with his mother. Then he was whisked away from his mom, and looked to his master (Obi-Wan) for companionship within the Jedi order. Further...he latched onto his desire and love for Padme. Throughout his whole ordeal, he's still dealing with the same issues: abandonment. Palpatine uses Skywalker/Vader as a means to his ends. He embraced Anakin as a kindred spirit simply to further his schemes, as well as to keep balance within the dark side of the force and keep the Sith Lord/Apprentice relationship intact. Deep down, Palpatine doesnt give a damn about Vader. Vader is simply a tool of Palpatine's to be used for his desires and to invoke his will and rule throughout the galaxy. However, to some degree, Anakin/Vader sees Palpatine as his last real companion after turning to the dark side. Do you really think Vader would willingly dispose of his only company? Not unless he had someone he could attach himself too...in the case of the original trilogy, it became his son Luke.

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Darth Vader doesn't think he's incapable of killing Palpatine alone, he just knows he has one chance to carry it out. Discovering that he has a son provides that chance. Now that I mention it, I just remembered that in the prequels Jedi know well enough not to attack a Sith Lord individually. Anakin learned that the hard way against Count Dooku. By Episode VI, Palpatine is aware of Vader's scheme, and wants Luke to replace his father. Aboard the second Death Star, both Palpatine and Vader try to get Luke to turn to the Dark Side for their own purposes. But in the end, Anakin kills Palpatine himself, not to seize power, but to save his son.

As a result, the above is correct to some degree. I think Vader is more than capable of overthrowing Palpatine, but its the Sith/Apprentice relationship and its attachment to destiny that keeps the two where they are.

When Luke shows up, all kinds of feelings are stirred within Vader that have been immersed for years, these feelings, in turn, re-ignite the dark side desire within Vader to move from Apprentice to Sith Lord. The only way to do that is to exterminate Palpatine, and take Luke as his apprentice.

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Originally posted by Gummibear I think your analysis is spot on! I have a soft spot for the whole father-son thing even if at the begining Vader only wanted to use Luke to overthrow Palpatine I still think he was pretty giddy, in his own special way, that his son and daughter were still alive ( I mean Luke and Leia are the closest people he had to Padme). I like to believe that part of the reason Vader wanted to recruit Luke as an ally was so that Palpatine wouldn't kill him. Another thing that I thought was pretty awesome was the possibility that Palpatine my have been Anakin's father. That would mean Palpatine was Luke's grandpappy!

I appreciate that, Gummibear! However, I must disagree with your theory...

Palpatine is quite powerful, but I seriously doubt he's Anakin's father. The Sith takeover of the Republic was supposed to occur in Episode I, but Anakin, Padme, and the Jedi defeated him. Palpatine was bitterly disappointed, but he took notice of this young boy who singlehandedly destroyed the droid station orbiting Naboo. Qui-Gon's death, the Jedi Council's doubt over Anakin's destiny, and Obi-Wan's faulty teachings are pieces of luck that help Palpatine turn Anakin to the Dark Side of the Force.

I must note that it is heavily suggested by the movies that Anakin was a virgin birth, conceived by the Force, and so has no father.

I didn't mean that Vader didn't think he couldn't physically overthrough Palpatine, but that he was psychologically unable. Like StevieV019 siad, he has a complex. Palpatine was his last friend in the universe; without someone to replace him, like Luke, he could never bring himself to turn on the Emperor. And I believe, Palpatine was perfectly aware of this and used it to control Vader.

I also think that Anakin sort of saw Palpatine as a father figure. Anakin first forms this sort of bond with Qui-Gon Jinn, and after his death, Palpatine. Tellingly, he never forms this sort of bond with Obi-wan.

That's probably because Obi-Wan only took the job of training Anakin because Qui-Gon told him to.